How much cash and weapons should the U.S. send the baby dictator and should it be just one more shipment or should it be a monthly gift? Bi-weekly? I know. Lets do away with the tax cuts so we can send even more. Trump needs to step it up right?
President Trump gives Ukraine to Russia.
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There are several sources indicating that, but verifying them is not straightforward. That doesn’t mean that they should be dismissed. They’re part of the puzzle where the process is dissecting the Chinese long term plan for seizing power in Asia. Taking over parts of eastern Russia would constitute a massive threat to our allies in east Asia, and be paving the way for an invasion of Taiwan.
If the sources are right, Russia will be in the same boat as the western world…and Ukraine. Oh…the irony…
Telegram app tips are like 50/50 I notice so who knows as for now. Ive seen a few other things about wooden ships built on scrap hulls and ghost tanks but not sure without Qubes and Tails so not worth the bother to me. It would put Putin in a pickle if correct though like a land grab where the EU expands eastward and China north and westward.
Never let facts get in the way of your mockery.
Fact: America guaranteed Ukraine's protection as long as she gave up her nukes. At the time, Ukraine had the third largest nuke arsenal in the world. Bill Clinton admitted it was a mistake to push Ukraine to give up its main means of defending itself.
Fact: most of what America supplied Ukraine was sitting in warehouses, no longer of any use to America. Much of it is being replaced as it is obsolete,
Fact: Zelensky was offered asylum in another, safe country. He chose to stay and defend his country.
Fact: the world's "second best" army has been unable to defeat your "baby dictator". Ukraine has nothing like the manpower or resources of Russia. Ukraine has rewritten the conduct of war rule book, something that most nations, including America, could learn from.
Fact: Ukraine holding back Russia has given time for NATO countries to wake up. Mr Trump has bullied NATO and that's a good thing.
Read up on the Truman doctrine. America has been throwing its military weight around since the end of WW2. America has conducted 400 operations on foreign soil since then. And now Mr Trump seeks to throw Ukraine under the Russian bus. Ukraine is smarter than that. America demonstrates that it is no longer willing or capable of being the defender of democracy.
America is rotting away from the inside and it shows on the outside. At least America is standing by Israel. That is a good thing.
Fact: The government that the US made that deal with was overthrown.
Fact: Bill Clinton opinions haven't really mattered for decades.
Fact: "Obsolete" lol.
Fact: Zelensky chose to stay behind after Putin publicly said he didn't want to kill Zelensky.
LOL. Yeah, the military industrial complex is "learning" allright; plenty of data to extract from this conflict. Totally ethical.
Fact: Europe is backsliding into all sorts of authoritarianism and it might even be too late for them. Our "allies" are trash.
We are not in a position to execute Truman Doctrine; because as you've said.....
Exactly. Fixing that has to be the priority. The plank is in our eye. It's time to remove the plank; not to go around messing with everyone else's eye trying to get out the speck.
You’re name fits perfectly. Only you need to make it sound more like “Some” disciple.
Fact is that Russia, with a little help from our government, framed Ukraine into giving up their nukes in exchange for a plan including the promise that Russia would not invade.
Makes me wonder who was really in charge in Ukraine back then.
Tell me, son, would you give up your second amendment rights because the government promised you something?
I won't bother with most of your responses. It's exactly what I expected. However, you made me laugh with your "Putin said he didn't want to kill Zelensky". You should take up comedy. This is the same Putin that swore he was not about to invade Ukraine, remember?
There's nothing funny about it... he already had the opportunity to kill Zelensky at the beginning; and didn't. That's not coming from me- that's coming from former Israeli PM Bennett.
From what I understand Soviet Ukraine's nuclear arsenal came from the Russian Soviet to begin with; and they didn't have the economic strength to maintain their own nuclear program anyway. And even if they did, a majority of their politicians didn't want to have them. So, if by "framed" you mean they were tricked or something- I don't think that's the case.
At the time, the idea was, the fewer people that have them the better; which I think is still a valid mindset for the sake of the world.
Hello! Russia was the aggressor in this brutal war, Ukraine are in a situation they did not want and in which there are now no good choices. Of course Zelensky wants money, to fight this war and rebuild the country. He doesn't believe a word Putin says so for him what good would a peace treaty do.
Trump's peace talks IMHO now hinge on whether Putin is a reliable and honest person to make a treaty with. I would submit that Putin's actions and words over the last few years indicate that he is not. Putin also has alliances with some of the most evil and barbaric regimes on earth, like Iran and North Korea. He can be judged by the company he keeps. And his lip service to Christianity puts him in a special class of evil, according to the Lord Jesus. God Bless You
Putin’s boy scouts wasn’t able to make a significant impact in Kyiv that day. He wanted to kill him or capture him but the incompetence of his team went on full display.
Putin, however, did a good job of scaring Biden so bad that he put Ukraine on a leash.
Well, it depends. If I have a certain gun; but don't know how to clean it, and can't buy more ammunition for it; then it will be no use to me in the long term... and if I probably won't need it, then it just becomes a liability; because I need to make sure that it is secure and no one is going to steal it. I might be better off with a knife, or something else.
Hello! 33% of Soviet Nuclear Weapons were based on Ukranian soil. In 1994 Ukraine gave up it's nuclear arsenal in return for security and territorial guarantees from the United States, the UK, France, China and Russia. So yes I would say they were clearly tricked. Russia guaranteed Ukranian security and territorial integrity but have spent the last three years pulverizing the Ukraine. China is supporting Russia with arms and materiel. Putin is a treaty breaker, anyone trying to make another treaty with him probably better not set their sights too high. God Bless
33%? What a fun fact. I'm pretty sure it has less to do with trickery, and more to do with things that have happened since 1994.
Russian agreements are only valid for 1460 days or until the next leader is in power whichever occurs first. All warranties voided without proof of maintenance from approved mechanics.