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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
That vast number are graduates of schools like the Dallas Seminary, which was started by Scoffield's mentor, Lewis Sperry Chafer. So they're just repeating what they've erroneously been taught.
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Lol. John Hagee? I can't believe he included him as if that heretic is something positive. Is Hagee still preaching that Jews don't need to accept Christ, but can instead be saved by following the law (or whatever else he claims)?

Oops - sorry, I misread. I have better context now. But still, John Hagee is the ultimate manifestation of the direction a lot of these other Dispensationalist teachers are leading.
 
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CommodoreTeach said:
Lol. John Hagee? I can't believe he included him as if that heretic is something positive. Is Hagee still preaching that Jews don't need to accept Christ, but can instead be saved by following the law (or whatever else he claims)?

Oops - sorry, I misread. I have better context now. But still, John Hagee is the ultimate manifestation of the direction a lot of these other Dispensationalist teachers are leading.
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I wonder what we would find if could follow the money trail?
Especially with the very high profile wealthy types.
False teachers ... even with all the warnings in scripture, it just goes on and on.

But I try to not be discouraged, there are some who SEE and are AWAKE!!:cool:
 
ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
That vast number are graduates of schools like the Dallas Seminary, which was started by Scoffield's mentor, Lewis Sperry Chafer. So they're just repeating what they've erroneously been taught.
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Well some highly qualified Bible scholars are dispensationalists and some are not. They all read the same Bible. What makes you so sure that you are right?
 
HeIsHere said:
I wonder what we would find if could follow the money trail?
Especially with the very high profile wealthy types.
False teachers ... even with all the warnings in scripture, it just goes on and on.

But I try to not be discouraged, there are some who SEE and are AWAKE!!:cool:
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It wouldn't surprise me if more came out on this. The recent saga with Candace and Tucker being smeared by preachers for crypto was very telling. I bet similar has gone on for much longer, and probably prior to crypto. I would also bet there are a number of scandal-type cases that have brought some of the mega-church leaders onboard with the Zionist program - secret adultery, homosexuality or more perverted vices would make a number of influential leaders very easy to turn.

I heard the other day the Mossad know the exact percentage of homosexual Catholic priests. If they keep such tabs on Catholic priests to know to the percentage, they're gonna be up on the vices of mega-church leaders aswell.
 
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HeIsHere said:
Hmm, are we ditching dispensationalism, making some progress ... Awesome!!

I don't know what dispensationalism is so I can hardly reject it.



Beyond simplistic, I do not even have the words to respond to how utterly simple a statement this is.

On related issue do some real research on AIPAC.

To start in the middle of the story, is to present a half truth, and that is unjust.
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Factual, not simplistic. You really do need to learn some history.
 
CommodoreTeach said:
It wouldn't surprise me if more came out on this. The recent saga with Candace and Tucker being smeared by preachers for crypto was very telling. I bet similar has gone on for much longer, and probably prior to crypto. I would also bet there are a number of scandal-type cases that have brought some of the mega-church leaders onboard with the Zionist program - secret adultery, homosexuality or more perverted vices would make a number of influential leaders very easy to turn.

I heard the other day the Mossad know the exact percentage of homosexual Catholic priests. If they keep such tabs on Catholic priests to know to the percentage, they're gonna be up on the vices of mega-church leaders aswell.
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I do think Tucker is in "the sandbox" so I am cautious with him especially since his ties with CIA are coming out and his lies about knowing about his dad.
The mega church pastors are the mega phone for the propaganda.

For sure the blackmail is pervasive, Whitney Webb exposes all of it with evidence, she follows the money.

More is being revealed for sure but it is just to degrade all of society and to further the mass brainwashing.
It almost becomes so big that people cannot deal with it, but we know it worked in WW II with the Nazi's why would not happen again, if anything they are far better at it.
I agree though people have no idea what is going on, Epstein is the middle of the iceberg, he was a pawn.
All unconnected thoughts. lol.
 
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Lifted_by_the_word said:
The Isaiah verses quoted by God-fearing is a prophecy that is fulfilled by spiritual Israel not the state of Israel.The land given to the Israelites in the OT was conditional and was unfulfilled by the people not holding unto their end of the covenant.
The state of Israel didn't fulfil that prophecy since they're unrepented.
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Let's start at the beginning, how were covenants made?
 
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HeIsHere said:
I do think Tucker is in "the sandbox" so I am cautious with him especially since his ties with CIA are coming out and his lies about knowing about his dad.
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Yes. I have considered him a Gatekeeper for some time. Now I use him mainly as a gauge of what information is in the mainstream. I believe the information he shares is largely true or valid, but its purpose is to keep pace with the narrative. I particularly like the historian he keeps having on, who drives the Zionists crazy for fear their World War II lies will be exposed.

I see Candace as a little ahead of the mainstream, but not too far - sharing information on criminality that is related, but ahead of its time. Before she went into detail on the Bridgette Macron trans/pedophilia scandal, I had no idea of the links to France and Epstein. But I'm sure these are there, and as time goes on, the stories will correlate.

HeIsHere said:
The mega church pastors are the mega phone for the propaganda.

For sure the blackmail is pervasive, Whitney Webb exposes all of it with evidence, she follows the money.

More is being revealed for sure but it is just to degrade all of society and to further the mass brainwashing.
It almost becomes so big that people cannot deal with it, but we know it worked in WW II with the Nazi's why would not happen again, if anything they are far better at it.
I agree though people have no idea what is going on, Epstein is the middle of the iceberg, he was a pawn.
All unconnected thoughts. lol.
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Ha, ha. I agree on all of these. I'm blown away on how powerful propaganda is, though. Before covid, I thought people were just like me - maybe not entirely immune to propaganda, but certainly not as readily manipulated. I realise now how wrong I was.
 
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Gideon300 said:
Well some highly qualified Bible scholars are dispensationalists and some are not. They all read the same Bible. What makes you so sure that you are right?
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History, facts, truth, are dirty words to a lot of people here that are spreading propaganda. Some get a pass because they don't know they are spreading lies and propaganda, but others fully well know.
 
CommodoreTeach said:
how powerful propaganda is,
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Yes indeed, what is weird, how if it is "wrapped up in religion" it works even better it seems.

When I think of this, I am realizing, it means that Christ Jesus is being used for propaganda purposes.
How bad is that!! :eek::cry:

Probably some book on this I should read, lol
 
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CommodoreTeach said:
for fear their World War II lies will be exposed.
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Not that I expect an answer, but what WW2 "lies"? This should be a good one.

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I see Candace as a little ahead of the mainstream,
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Yes, people like Candace remind me of these "Christian" singers/musicians that suddenly turn atheist. "Everything I told you I believed before, I was all wrong, now I know everything, follow me now for more life instructions." Yes, that's totally the right person to follow. smh Oddly enough the rich hubby she snagged, her father in law, staunchly supports Israel. Bet that's fun conversation around the pool.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
Not that I expect an answer, but what WW2 "lies"? This should be a good one.

Yes, people like Candace remind me of these "Christian" singers/musicians that suddenly turn atheist. "Everything I told you I believed before, I was all wrong, now I know everything, follow me now for more life instructions." Yes, that's totally the right person to follow. smh Oddly enough the rich hubby she snagged, her father in law, staunchly supports Israel. Bet that's fun conversation around the pool.
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You know my rules. An apology, and a commitment not to associate me (or fellow believers) with Nazis or the Holocaust in future without a firm justification, else we just can't have a rational discussion. (And why you would want to, if you really believed the former still puzzles me...)
 
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CommodoreTeach said:
You know my rules. An apology, and a commitment not to associate me (or fellow believers) with Nazis or the Holocaust in future without a firm justification, else we just can't have a rational discussion. (And why you would want to, if you really believed the former still puzzles me...)
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Nope, you know my rules. You're not getting an apology. Again, you don't want to called antisemitic and then you say antisemitic things, like the "lies" of WW2. Then when I call you out on what you say, you play the victim and demand an apology. And it's another way to avoid questions that would prove my point. You say these things then pull the victim card. So you want to say what you want to say and not be held accountable for it.
 
CommodoreTeach said:
You know my rules. An apology, and a commitment not to associate me (or fellow believers) with Nazis or the Holocaust in future without a firm justification, else we just can't have a rational discussion. (And why you would want to, if you really believed the former still puzzles me...)
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