Is pornography allowed?

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im saying this out of love and a desire to protect you. Your desire to stay Holy and to honor God is admirable and indeed inspiring. I would like to caution you about speaking of things you did about spirits and naming them, especially demons! All demons are disarmed and rendered powerless by the works on the cross of calavary. it is written in colosians 2:15. The only one to fear is God himself when we follow Jesus because he is the on who disciplines us if we sin. Our adversary is satan . No demon can come against a born again believer. God has given us the authority to trample on snakes and scorpions to overcome all the power of the enemy, nothing shall harm us. Ive heard many people who believed satans lies and listened about spirit of this and spirit of that and its really just lies and nonsense. None of it is written in scripture and that is the only truth anyone should be speaking... peace be with you




Perhaps your heart is in the right place about this, but you do see to be a little mixed up about it. You even contradicted yourself!

You said, "All demons are disarmed and rendered powerless by the works on the cross of calavary." (Calvary)

If all demons have been disarmed and rendered powerless already by the cross, then why

No demon can come against a born again believer.

God has given us the authority to trample on snakes and scorpions to overcome all the power of the enemy, nothing shall harm us.

Here's your contradiction, where you are mixed up. If the demons were rendered powerless and can not come against a Believer...then why do we need Authority to overcome the power of the enemy.

Do they have power or don't they? Do we have to overcome them or not?

Do you see the problem with that? It's as if you are saying, don't say all that about spirits because it isn't possible...then why does the Lord tell us in scripture, overcome the enemy with the Authority I have given you, in Jesus name?

The war was won on the cross by Jesus. Ok so the "war" is over. What are we doing? What are we supposed to be doing?

We have not be not been Evac'd out yet and are still in the field, waiting to be picked up. So my friend, we have to Enforce the Victory, until Jesus arrives.

But there are many soldiers still in the field from both sides of the war. Some may not know the war has been won and by who.

In WWII it was over, Japan lost to the US. But every now and then, we hear about some Japanese pilot found on some island somewhere where he was shot down 80 years ago and don't know the war is over. He has been living on the island and living until someone finds him. Do they come running out waving their arms? Hello, so glad to see you!? No they attack who it is, still doing his duty as a Japanese Soldier.

The enemy has not been disarmed, yet. Until then, we must embrace the authority we have been given in Jesus name and continue to enforce the victory that has been won.

So I find it helpful to speak about spiritual warfare and characteristics of demons to people because so few people know so little about it. Me included, but I know some and you sir are incorrect.

God bless you, but you need to think this through some more.
 
No...im not mixed up... the truth is very easy to understand... Demons are under Gods sovereignty as well as every human and Angel of God. When a person comes to Christ Jesus, the authority I speak of is His! Ask this to yourself, can a demon come against the Son of Man! Can a demon overpower God himself!...The answer is NO! I cant teach you the bible only the Holy Spirit can teach such things. I can try to reach you but its God whom gives you the personal understanding. God gives his son Jesus Christ to every believer and rule over them. They live inside the life of Jesus Christ! Demons have no power over Jesus Christ.
 
No...im not mixed up... the truth is very easy to understand... Demons are under Gods sovereignty as well as every human and Angel of God. When a person comes to Christ Jesus, the authority I speak of is His! Ask this to yourself, can a demon come against the Son of Man! Can a demon overpower God himself!...The answer is NO! I cant teach you the bible only the Holy Spirit can teach such things. I can try to reach you but its God whom gives you the personal understanding. God gives his son Jesus Christ to every believer and rule over them. They live inside the life of Jesus Christ! Demons have no power over Jesus Christ. You call it my contradiction but i gave you the words of Jesus Christ! the contradiction is coming from your own personal bias and understanding! Im giving you the simple and easy to understand Gospel of Jesus Christ! Why do yo think he says its Good news!. Waite Your saying the cross of calavry disarmed all the powers of hell? YES ..Glory to god in the highest peace on earth Good will to men. The Good News is truely good indeed.
 
No...im not mixed up... the truth is very easy to understand... Demons are under Gods sovereignty as well as every human and Angel of God. When a person comes to Christ Jesus, the authority I speak of is His! Ask this to yourself, can a demon come against the Son of Man! Can a demon overpower God himself!...The answer is NO! I cant teach you the bible only the Holy Spirit can teach such things. I can try to reach you but its God whom gives you the personal understanding. God gives his son Jesus Christ to every believer and rule over them. They live inside the life of Jesus Christ! Demons have no power over Jesus Christ.

You didn't answer even one of my questions. So you don't believe in demons.

Answer this question. Why did Jesus give us His authority to exercise over demons so we can cast them out?

If demons are powerless against believers, and Jesus is sovereign, then what? Then looking at porn is ok because it must be Jesus doing it and giving you the urges to look at it?
 
You didn't answer even one of my questions. So you don't believe in demons.

Answer this question. Why did Jesus give us His authority to exercise over demons so we can cast them out?

If demons are powerless against believers, and Jesus is sovereign, then what? Then looking at porn is ok because it must be Jesus doing it and giving you the urges to look at it?





So your questioning Jesus Christ's Soverignty and advocating for demons... Im going to tell you right now Jesus Christ is who he says he is .... Believe and Repent and stop preaching nonsense against Christ Jesus Here... If you was at the church I attend , you would be on the borderline of getting kicked out. satans kingdom is not preached in a true a Christian Church... If you would like to understand more of Jesus Christ, I will indeed speak with joy.... But you need to stop right now on preaching about demons... i will not stand for it...
 
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pornogrophy, its absolutely appauling to all genuine Followers of Christ. As I said Pornography is an abomination that is not allowed! As well as AS Masturbation is not allowed! REPENT!!

What do you mean, Repent, brother? I thought you said the spirit of masturbation has been disarmed and can not approach any Christians?

If we don't have to even resist demons because they are powerless, then what is your point?

Here's a good question for you:

James 4:7
7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you..../KJV

Can you tell me why we are being instructed to resist the devil(s)?

I can sense that you mean well Brother, but you are a wee bit mesed up on this.

John 15:7
7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you..../KJV

If ye abide in Him...and His words abide in you...(Then), shall you ask what you will and it shall be done. This is talking about the Lord's protection. If you abide in the Lord and are led by His Spirit, then you have protection, and you have authority to cast out spirits and they can not harm you.

Now ask yourself, how many professing Christians abide in Christ (always) and are led by His Spirit?

So while what you have said is true, for the one who abides in Christ, but it is not true for those who profess Christ but do not abide in Christ. And demons can and will and do approach these weak Christians and overcome them with the porn & sexual immorality and anything else that they can try.

So I would caution you about how you speak of evil spirits being, no second thought. That they are powerless against them so no need to worry or learn or confront or anything. That is not good advice brother.
 
at church we sing of Gods victory over demons, hell and the grave, by the gift of Jesus Christ. You may not understand so I will say this.... Go and talk to a Pastor or a qualified Minister that can explain. But you need to stop preaching about demons. Asking questions is ok but if your going to advocate... well, I wont stand for it or even conversate with you

if your going to believe in demons I will not call you brother until you repent... You need to speak to a Pastor sir.. this conversation is over
 
So your questioning Jesus Christ's Soverignty and advocating for demons... Im going to tell you right now Jesus Christ is who he says he is .... Believe and Repent and stop preaching nonsense against Christ Jesus Here... If you was at the church I attend , you would be on the borderline of getting kicked out. satans kingdom is not preached in a true a Christian Church... If you would like to understand more of Jesus Christ, I will indeed speak with joy.... But you need to stop right now on preaching about demons... i will not stand for it...
What do you mean, Repent, brother? I thought you said the spirit of masturbation has been disarmed and can not approach any Christians?

If we don't have to even resist demons because they are powerless, then what is your point?

Here's a good question for you:

James 4:7
7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you..../KJV

Can you tell me why we are being instructed to resist the devil(s)?

I can sense that you mean well Brother, but you are a wee bit mesed up on this.

John 15:7
7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you..../KJV

If ye abide in Him...and His words abide in you...(Then), shall you ask what you will and it shall be done. This is talking about the Lord's protection. If you abide in the Lord and are led by His Spirit, then you have protection, and you have authority to cast out spirits and they can not harm you.

Now ask yourself, how many professing Christians abide in Christ (always) and are led by His Spirit?

So while what you have said is true, for the one who abides in Christ, but it is not true for those who profess Christ but do not abide in Christ. And demons can and will and do approach these weak Christians and overcome them with the porn & sexual immorality and anything else that they can try.

So I would caution you about how you speak of evil spirits being, no second thought. That they are powerless against them so no need to worry or learn or confront or anything. That is not good advice brother.
Howdy you two and welcome to the forum.

It's always nice to see two fresh new forum members, ready and eager to jump right in there and fight the good fight.. against each other. Quite entertaining indeed.
 
So your questioning Jesus Christ's Soverignty and advocating for demons... Im going to tell you right now Jesus Christ is who he says he is .... Believe and Repent and stop preaching nonsense against Christ Jesus Here... If you was at the church I attend , you would be on the borderline of getting kicked out. satans kingdom is not preached in a true a Christian Church... If you would like to understand more of Jesus Christ, I will indeed speak with joy.... But you need to stop right now on preaching about demons... i will not stand for it...

Are you for real with this? You sound like you might be making statements from your emotions. Can't we keep it scriptural?

Why does scripture tell us to endure?
Why does scripture tell us to overcome?
Why does scripture tell us to resist the devil and he will flee?
Why does scripture say we have a great commission and we are to go, raise the dead, cast out spirits, heal the sick, preach the Gospel?

You said Jesus won the war and the evil spirits have all be disarmed. SO why tell us to go do these things?
 
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at church we sing of Gods victory over demons, hell and the grave, by the gift of Jesus Christ. You may not understand so I will say this.... Go and talk to a Pastor or a qualified Minister that can explain. But you need to stop preaching about demons. Asking questions is ok but if your going to advocate... well, I wont stand for it or even conversate with you

if your going to believe in demons I will not call you brother until you repent... You need to speak to a Pastor sir.. this conversation is over

I asked for scripture, and you give me a Hymn?!So I was right, you answer me emotionally. Anybody ever tell you you talk like a girl? That's what they do.

Why do you say a second time, that I better not "preach" about demons? Am I hearing some sort of negative connotation with that? As if I am on the demons side or something like that? That's rude brother.

If you can't approach the conversation scripturally, then maybe it would be better if you didn't talk to me, mamn.
 
So your questioning Jesus Christ's Soverignty and advocating for demons..

See there it is again coming out. That has to be some sort emotional jab at me so you want to make me sound like I consort with demons or something.

Didn't you say demons don't exist? Jesus nullified them all? So here we are in our foxholes waiting and watching for the Evac Helicoptors from Jesus (!!) and I heard you say from your foxhole, all the enemy is nullified now....
And I can see the enemy in the distance.

Uh, ok....Albert's on Point! Lol.
 
Howdy you two and welcome to the forum.

It's always nice to see two fresh new forum members, ready and eager to jump right in there and fight the good fight.. against each other. Quite entertaining indeed.

As long as he has a man's humor we should be ok, lol. If he has an emotional response to my joke about he talks like a girl, he may be reporting me! Ban that Demonaic, he hurt my feelings. Hope he's old enough to not be thin skinned.
 
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I don't believe there is any reference to pornography or sexual images in Bible, so then, maybe it is allowed. A similar word, fornication, is in the Bible. However this word is broad (vague) and means "sexual immorilty", it is unclear then if pornography/sexual images/videos are included under this team. With a lot of Christians believing masturbation is allowed, it is natural then to think that the most common aid to masturbation may also be allowed? What are people, especially singles, to do with the sexual urges? Thoughts? I always thought I knew the answer, but perhaps I am wrong?
The OT tells us premarital sex is punishable by death.
In the case of rape, if the rapist doesn't marry his victim and pay her father 40 pieces of silver, the rapist was to be put to death.
If his victim "enjoyed" the "rape", i.e consensual premarital sex,she too was to be killed.

So no, porn isn't allowed via scripture through the omission of the term, pornography.

Porn is gross. It's Voyeurism. And in some cases, is the collaborative result of sex trafficking.
 
It is mentioned in the Bible, as it is the very same act where the word "pornography" comes from.

Fornication in the Bible is the Greek word "πορνεία" in latin characters, "porneia". By definition it is any and all sex outside of marriage.

Therefore, no follower of Christ should find any satisfaction in the recordings depicting such acts.

Marriage brings two and makes them one. At this point their origin of anything sexual is within, not without. If you go seeking what is outside of you, it can never fulfill what is within. Be in the world, but not of the world. Your True Source is within, not distant and disconnected. Mathew 28:20 - I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.

John 17:16 -They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

The world stopped being our source the minute we recognised who our One and True Source is.
 
at church we sing of Gods victory over demons, hell and the grave, by the gift of Jesus Christ.

And that is correct to do. The war has been been won and Jesus has had Victory added into the record.

But here we are on the ground waiting to be evac'd out of here. The war is over and we have been instructed in scripture to enforce the victory until He comes for us.

Has the enemy got the information that they lost the war? You bet they do and they don't like it so if they can kill a bunch on their way out then it makes them feel better I guess.

So the war HAS been won. But we are still subject to being attacked and that means demons and all of that.

And the better Christian you are the more you will be attacked spiritually by demons.
 
Here in Thailand Pornography is Not Legal and possession carries a Prison sentence. Here Porn is strictly forbidden and blocked on the Net based on the Country your IP is active in. Its a very serious sin here and even the Buddhists say there is a special place of eternal torment for fornicators. They view Porn as Participation in Fornication. "Such As A Man Thinks". There is a large Temple near Bangkok dedicated to demonstrating(in Statues) what happens to Fornicators in Hell, its very graphic. Just because its Legal in the US doesnt mean its OK. The US is not Gods Standard of Righteousness, even though Americans think it is. When you are exposed to other cultures outside of the US, you see the US from the Outside to the Inside. The US looks very different from over here. The Ethnocentric Blinders come off. Americans since WWII have been Brain washed to think that the US is The "Hand Of God" and a Christian Nation. We must remember why the US got into WWII. It was Economics(Greed) the US Govt said it had no knowledge of Jews in Concentration camps, so the US cant take any Credit for freeing the Jews. Its Not possible for a Group to declare themselves Saved, only an Individual can, hence "Let Any Man With An Ear Hear" , and only an Individual can confess Christ Resurection with their mouth. All means that there is an individual responsibility to obey Gods Words no matter what Group you Identify with.