This is a thread about freewill. Any comments about that?
That's regeneration. Can you regenerate yourself by your will?
This is a thread about freewill. Any comments about that?
Why?
Did you receive life when you were born? Or at conception? Did you know that you were alive at conception? You were alive long before you knew you were alive. If this is so for natural birth, why is it different for spiritual birth?
Romans 1:20 tells us the invisible things of God are understood by the things that are made. Why doesn't natural birth which is seen tell us about spiritual birth which is not seen.
Scripture?Not wanting to open a can of worms....
But, Because of the lack of proper exegetical study and teaching, it is VERY easy to not only assume something.
But, also have a vast majority of believers agreeing with you when you are not understanding what's there in the Scriptures.
Without going into detail at this time.
Just the conclusions will be given.
At conception was the beginning of biological life.
At birth, is when God breathed our soul into the completed body.
God gives the soul.
Our parents only provided the body.
You aren't human at conception?Human life at birth, biological life at conception, spiritual life at regeneration.
We are saved when we believe.
Do you have the capacity for belief before or after you are generated? After. Same is true spiritually.Do you believe before or after you are regenerated?
You aren't human at conception?
Do you have the capacity for belief before or after you are generated? After. Same is true spiritually.
So abortion is okay because the baby has no soul?Our humanity is to be found in the soul, something only God can create. It is invisible and I did not become a living soul until I was born and took my first breath. (living soul requires breathing, one doesn't breathe in the womb)
So abortion is okay because the baby has no soul?
This comment is odd.So you went your whole life up to the point of regeneration without believing anything? How odd!
It's a question. If there is no soul, the image of God isn't destroyed?Typical. Make stuff up you think I might believe.
This applies:This comment is odd.
Typical. Make stuff up you think I might believe.
That is the only logical conclusion from such a position. Despicable! The life of the flesh is in the blood.So abortion is okay because the baby has no soul?
I'm interested in learning the different perspectives, but if the soul doesn't come until birth, it seems to me it hasn't acquired the image of God yet.That is the only logical conclusion from such a position. Despicable! The life of the flesh is in the blood.
I'm interested in learning the different perspectives, but if the soul doesn't come until birth, it seems to me it hasn't acquired the image of God yet.
Jeremiah 1:5a “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you... "Psalm 139:13
For You formed my inmost being; You knit me together in my mother’s womb.
Jeremiah 1:5a “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you... "
Isaiah 49:1
Listen to Me, O islands; pay attention, O distant peoples: The LORD
called Me from the womb; from the body of My mother He named Me.
Galatians 1:15
But when God, who set me apart from my mother’s womb and called me by His grace, was pleased
Isaiah 44:2
This is the word of the LORD, your Maker, who formed you from the womb and who
will help you: “Do not be afraid, O Jacob My servant, Jeshurun, whom I have chosen.
Job 31:15
Did not He who made me in the womb also make them? Did not the same One form us in the womb?
Luke 1:15
for he will be great in the sight of the Lord. He shall never take wine or strong
drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit even from his mother’s womb.
Isaiah 49:1,5
Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me
from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name…