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Pilgrimshope said:
“Dominion is Gods Declaration to haVe in subjeCtion the earth and everything in it, to keep it.”

Amen and what’s his determination regarding dominion upon earth from the beginning ?

“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

At this point mans dorection and mindset is now an integral point of his plan whatever man does the state of creation will follow because he gave dominion to mankind upon the earth

“The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD's:

But the earth hath he given to the children of men.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭115:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

all creation is the lords who made it but his determination about earth was man would have dominion upon earth . And so when man was corrupted creation followed suit


“And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

…The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭6:5-6, 11-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬
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Amen Lets sing Psalm 149! Against the Kings(demons).

Let us declare the blessings upon true hearts, and plagues upon the wicked.

Let us declare the fire that does not burn upon evil (isaiah 47)

Let us do these things greater than Jesus did. Declaring the Sea itself (figuratively) turn to Blood, to stop the power of the wicked. Let the coheirs with Christ reign. Let us make it a myriad times difficult for their unprosperous weapons.
 
Racham said:
The last trumpet is Armageddon. I thought revelation says the dead will be ressurected after it?
But the seVenth trumpet is the worst of the worst plagues against the wicked and thoSe who worship government
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I merely pointed out that your claim in the OP that "it seems obvious that Paul is talking about what happens to the dead, not anything else" in 1 Thessalonians 5:13-18 and provided additional verses from 1 Corinthians 15.

Both sections of Scripture indicate that Paul was speaking of both dead in Christ and alive in Christ.
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Racham said:
Amen Lets sing Psalm 149! Against the Kings(demons).

Let us declare the blessings upon true hearts, and plagues upon the wicked.

Let us declare the fire that does not burn upon evil (isaiah 47)

Let us do these things greater than Jesus did. Declaring the Sea itself (figuratively) turn to Blood, to stop the power of the wicked. Let the coheirs with Christ reign. Let us make it a myriad times difficult for their unprosperous weapons.
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Those things are gifted to certain folk and others have other gifts to express thier god given and then redeemed dominion through Christ Jesus

Im not a miracle worker or healer I’ve never been called or given the ability to show great wonders and signs ….

But we all have our roles and gifts within him

“Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; to another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; to another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: but all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭12:4-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

If all Christian’s worked signs there would be no one to do all the other administrations within the body so he gives gifts and calls people to thier gifts enabling them for the betterment of the body as a whole some gifts seem small but some of those seemingly in glorious roles of service are the most integral

but I agree let’s walk in the things god has set before us and find our individual gifts through prayerfully seeking and following the word in simplicity after obedience first which is where we find those gifts
 
Pilgrimshope said:
Those things are gifted to certain folk and others have other gifts to express thier god given and then redeemed dominion through Christ Jesus

Im not a miracle worker or healer I’ve never been called or given the ability to show great wonders and signs ….

But we all have our roles and gifts within him

“Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; to another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; to another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: but all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭12:4-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

If all Christian’s worked signs there would be no one to do all the other administrations within the body so he gives gifts and calls people to thier gifts enabling them for the betterment of the body as a whole some gifts seem small but some of those seemingly in glorious roles of service are the most integral

but I agree let’s walk in the things god has set before us and find our individual gifts through prayerfully seeking and following the word in simplicity after obedience first which is where we find those gifts
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Christ lives in me, I am dead.

When Jesus was in the wilderness, he declared scripture that we might not die in the wilderness of Zin like the unfaithful who lost hope?

Is not the battle today over the lies that make people forget they are coheirs with Christ? Every lie used to push agendas that are unholy?

In Jesus naMe, may those honest hearts bring the captors into captivity. May the Strange enemies be blinded and kick against the goads!
 
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Racham said:
Christ lives in me, I am dead.

When Jesus was in the wilderness, he declared scripture that we might not die in the wilderness of Zin like the unfaithful who lost hope?

Is not the battle today over the lies that make people forget they are coheirs with Christ? Every lie used to push agendas that are unholy?

In Jesus naMe, may those honest hearts bring the captors into captivity. May the Strange enemies be blinded and kick against the goads!
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Yeah bro I was saying myself I haven’t received certain gifts like the apostles I’m sure I have some but wasn’t disparaging you or anything you said . I can’t work miracles because I don’t have that particular gift or healings ect

“not the battle today over the lies that make people forget they are coheirs with Christ? Every lie used to push agendas that are unholy?”

What I did eas wuote from a teaching of the apostle Paul explaining that people don’t all have the same gifts like miracles and healing ect but there are many gifts he taught about. I’m not sure he was creating an agenda or anything by Explaining that
 
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Pilgrimshope said:
Yeah bro I was saying myself I haven’t received certain gifts like the apostles I’m sure I have some but wasn’t disparaging you or anything you said . I can’t work miracles because I don’t have that particular gift or healings ect

“not the battle today over the lies that make people forget they are coheirs with Christ? Every lie used to push agendas that are unholy?”

What I did eas wuote from a teaching of the apostle Paul explaining that people don’t all have the same gifts like miracles and healing ect but there are many gifts he taught about. I’m not sure he was creating an agenda or anything by Explaining that
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I understand. I didnt think you were disparaging me.

I was trying to incite prayers against evil.
You know, psalm 149, it ends with 'this is the glory of all the saints...'
 
Racham said:
I understand. I didnt think you were disparaging me.

I was trying to incite prayers against evil.
You know, psalm 149, it ends with 'this is the glory of all the saints...'
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I’ve probably read it but hadn’t recognized it thanks for clarifying and AMEN
 
Something to think about. Satan, the son of perdition comes as Antichrist at the 6th seal, the 6th trump and the 6th vial hence his number 666. Christ doesn't return until the 7th seal, trump and vial AFTER the working of Satan, Mark 13:24-27. So Satan will come first, before Jesus, claiming to be God, II Thes 2:3-4. If Satan comes preaching a message that he has come to gather his people together and fly them away, how many will be ripe for his deception?
 
Randy4u2c said:
Something to think about. Satan, the son of perdition comes as Antichrist at the 6th seal, the 6th trump and the 6th vial hence his number 666. Christ doesn't return until the 7th seal, trump and vial AFTER the working of Satan, Mark 13:24-27. So Satan will come first, before Jesus, claiming to be God, II Thes 2:3-4. If Satan comes preaching a message that he has come to gather his people together and fly them away, how many will be ripe for his deception?
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This reads like a joke. So, No its Not. What is his name? Punchline???
 
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