Have the times of the gentiles ended in 1967?

[cv5]

I identify as Spiritual Israel, so relate to "Replace theology" as I understand "End Time" Bible Prophecy. It relates to we covenant keeping Christians, being Israel, IN CHRIST, our Lord and Savior. Not these self-proclaimed Jews, claiming, to be God's people, Israel, to be able to quote God's promises, of giving Israel, the land of Canaan, Palestine today, to justify their murder and slaughter, ethnic cleansing 10's of thousands of innocent people, ( women & children, included ) Rev 2:9 Rev 3:9

The Jewish nation of today, in the Middle East is not the Israel of the Bible. They are a people believing & fulfilling the Zionist Movement, manufactured by the Roman Church these last 110+ years, to reclaim the "Holy Lands" for the Anti-Christ's end times motives.

This Zionism is supported by most Protestant Churches today, our president and many high level government war-hawks. Zionism is an illegal land grab and slaughter of innocence ( men, women & children ) ethnic cleansing, to bring about the New World Order, a world economic reset, ("you will own nothing and be happy") and a religious ecumenism being fostered by the (un-)Holy Roman Church. Their one world religion, where THEY (the AntiChrist), the Pope being God, rules Earth from Jerusalem, God's Holy Mountain, for this "millennium", IT -> The Roman Church, being the spiritual body of Christ on earth.

It's their doctrinal, theological beliefs, presented in their writings and creeds. Check it out ! Tis BLASPHEMY ! The AntiChrist !! Do your own "due diligence" and BELIEVE Jesus, our Lord & King ... John 3:16

The Jewish nation ceased to be God's covenant people when they “corporately” ( the Nation, as God's chosen people, The Church) rejected Christ and broke the terms of the covenant, stoned Steven in Acts 6, and declared, "We have no king, but Caesar" in John 19.

Today, the covenant promises are inherited by spiritual Israel—those who follow Jesus and keep God's commandments.

The Covenant Was Conditional

1. Exodus 19:5–6 – “Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure…”
2. Deuteronomy 28:1–2, 15 – Blessings and curses based on obedience.
3. Jeremiah 11:3–4, 10 – “Cursed be the man that obeyeth not the words of this covenant… they are turned back to the iniquities of their forefathers…”

National Rejection of Christ

1. John 1:11 – “He came unto his own, and his own received him not.”
2. Luke 19:41–44 – Jesus weeps over Jerusalem, foretelling its destruction due to not recognizing “the time of thy visitation.”
3. Matthew 21:43 – “The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.”

The Outward Signs Lost Their Power

1. Daniel 9:26–27 – The Messiah will “cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease.”
2. Hebrews 10:1–10 – The sacrificial system was a shadow of Christ’s offering; with His sacrifice, it became obsolete.
3. Matthew 23:38 – “Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.”

Modern Jews Are Not Spiritual Israel

1. Romans 2:28–29 – “He is not a Jew, which is one outwardly… but he is a Jew, which is one inwardly…”
2. Galatians 3:28–29 – “If ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
3. Romans 9:6–8 – “They are not all Israel, which are of Israel…”

The Sabbath and Covenant

1. Exodus 31:16–17 – “Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath… for a perpetual covenant.”
2. Isaiah 56:2–6 – Promises to the foreigner who keeps the Sabbath and holds fast God’s covenant.
3. Ezekiel 20:12, 20 – “Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them…”

Continued Responsibility to Evangelize

1. Romans 1:16 – “To the Jew first, and also to the Greek.”
2. Romans 10:1 – “Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.”
3. Acts 13:46–47 – Paul and Barnabas preached first to the Jews, then to the Gentiles after rejection.

Reverence for Their Past

1. Romans 3:1–2 – “What advantage then hath the Jew?… unto them were committed the oracles of God.”
2. Romans 9:4–5 – “Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants… and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came…”
3. Matthew 5:17 – “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets…”

Each of these verses harmonizes, that God’s covenant was never meant to be inherited by lineage alone, but through faith and obedience to Christ.

• Do you see the Character of Christ, His Righteousness, being represented in these people, calling themselves Jews, in the middle East, slaughtering Palestinian, women and children?
• Are you not aware of the Catholic Church's involvement in Zionism and the return of Jews to Palestine, returning this SO CALLED “Israel” to Palestine, in 1920-49 ?
• Do you realize that many these people over in Palestine, calling themselves Jews, have no linage from Abraham / Jacob ? They are Khazarian Jews, who adopted, Judaism, back in the 800s.
• Rev 2:9 "I know your works, tribulation, and poverty (but you are rich); and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan."
• Rev 3:9 "Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you."( the "you" here is spiritual Israel )
• nuf sed

Well, if in fact 2,520 years from Cyrus 538BC to May, 14 1948 can be proven to work (and it works perfectly) you wasted about 15 minutes of your present existence writing that anti-Israel rant.

The Biblical truth (however disparate it may be of your opinions), is that prophetically Israel MUST be in the land BEFORE Christ returns. Oh yes.....a Temple must be erected beforehand as well.

And something else..... defying God's will in this matter is sheer folly and is bound to fail.

 

[HeIsHere]

Do you realize that many these people over in Palestine, calling themselves Jews, have no linage from Abraham / Jacob ? They are Khazarian Jews, who adopted, Judaism, back in the 800s.

Correct!

 

[cv5]

I identify as Spiritual Israel, so relate to "Replace theology" as I understand "End Time" Bible Prophecy. It relates to we covenant keeping Christians, being Israel, IN CHRIST, our Lord and Savior. Not these self-proclaimed Jews, claiming, to be God's people, Israel, to be able to quote God's promises, of giving Israel, the land of Canaan, Palestine today, to justify their murder and slaughter, ethnic cleansing 10's of thousands of innocent people, ( women & children, included ) Rev 2:9 Rev 3:9

The Jewish nation of today, in the Middle East is not the Israel of the Bible. They are a people believing & fulfilling the Zionist Movement, manufactured by the Roman Church these last 110+ years, to reclaim the "Holy Lands" for the Anti-Christ's end times motives.

This Zionism is supported by most Protestant Churches today, our president and many high level government war-hawks. Zionism is an illegal land grab and slaughter of innocence ( men, women & children ) ethnic cleansing, to bring about the New World Order, a world economic reset, ("you will own nothing and be happy") and a religious ecumenism being fostered by the (un-)Holy Roman Church. Their one world religion, where THEY (the AntiChrist), the Pope being God, rules Earth from Jerusalem, God's Holy Mountain, for this "millennium", IT -> The Roman Church, being the spiritual body of Christ on earth.

It's their doctrinal, theological beliefs, presented in their writings and creeds. Check it out ! Tis BLASPHEMY ! The AntiChrist !! Do your own "due diligence" and BELIEVE Jesus, our Lord & King ... John 3:16

The Jewish nation ceased to be God's covenant people when they “corporately” ( the Nation, as God's chosen people, The Church) rejected Christ and broke the terms of the covenant, stoned Steven in Acts 6, and declared, "We have no king, but Caesar" in John 19.

Today, the covenant promises are inherited by spiritual Israel—those who follow Jesus and keep God's commandments.

The Covenant Was Conditional

1. Exodus 19:5–6 – “Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure…”
2. Deuteronomy 28:1–2, 15 – Blessings and curses based on obedience.
3. Jeremiah 11:3–4, 10 – “Cursed be the man that obeyeth not the words of this covenant… they are turned back to the iniquities of their forefathers…”

National Rejection of Christ

1. John 1:11 – “He came unto his own, and his own received him not.”
2. Luke 19:41–44 – Jesus weeps over Jerusalem, foretelling its destruction due to not recognizing “the time of thy visitation.”
3. Matthew 21:43 – “The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.”

The Outward Signs Lost Their Power

1. Daniel 9:26–27 – The Messiah will “cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease.”
2. Hebrews 10:1–10 – The sacrificial system was a shadow of Christ’s offering; with His sacrifice, it became obsolete.
3. Matthew 23:38 – “Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.”

Modern Jews Are Not Spiritual Israel

1. Romans 2:28–29 – “He is not a Jew, which is one outwardly… but he is a Jew, which is one inwardly…”
2. Galatians 3:28–29 – “If ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
3. Romans 9:6–8 – “They are not all Israel, which are of Israel…”

The Sabbath and Covenant

1. Exodus 31:16–17 – “Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath… for a perpetual covenant.”
2. Isaiah 56:2–6 – Promises to the foreigner who keeps the Sabbath and holds fast God’s covenant.
3. Ezekiel 20:12, 20 – “Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them…”

Continued Responsibility to Evangelize

1. Romans 1:16 – “To the Jew first, and also to the Greek.”
2. Romans 10:1 – “Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.”
3. Acts 13:46–47 – Paul and Barnabas preached first to the Jews, then to the Gentiles after rejection.

Reverence for Their Past

1. Romans 3:1–2 – “What advantage then hath the Jew?… unto them were committed the oracles of God.”
2. Romans 9:4–5 – “Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants… and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came…”
3. Matthew 5:17 – “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets…”

Each of these verses harmonizes, that God’s covenant was never meant to be inherited by lineage alone, but through faith and obedience to Christ.

• Do you see the Character of Christ, His Righteousness, being represented in these people, calling themselves Jews, in the middle East, slaughtering Palestinian, women and children?
• Are you not aware of the Catholic Church's involvement in Zionism and the return of Jews to Palestine, returning this SO CALLED “Israel” to Palestine, in 1920-49 ?
• Do you realize that many these people over in Palestine, calling themselves Jews, have no linage from Abraham / Jacob ? They are Khazarian Jews, who adopted, Judaism, back in the 800s.
• Rev 2:9 "I know your works, tribulation, and poverty (but you are rich); and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan."
• Rev 3:9 "Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you."( the "you" here is spiritual Israel )
• nuf sed

"I identify as Spiritual Israel"

Is that so? Well, I have news for you:
Only an ethnic son of Jacob who is a believer in the risen Christ can legitimately hold that title. Like Paul the Apostle, or Peter the Apostle.

Do you have any evidence to prove your assertion?

 

[Racham]

This is a fantasy based on a Jewish tradition that got inserted into the Masoretic text. The correct version of Zechariah 14:5 is in the Septuagint and translations based on it.

The Septuagint contains serious Errors.
People who actually have formal training have told me about this. In fact, Peter quotes a septuagint error, causing it to become inspired scripture while beiNg guided by the holy ghost. It was a rushed early translation.

The people who translated the Septuagint were not as careful as other copyists. The LXX is a translation from HEBREW to GREEK which should, just by its self set off alarms in your head.
The Septuagint is a dicey thing.
Its almost like youre testing me to see if I really know what I am talking about, or if I am such a lard ball that I would slip under a vehicle myself.

So, this is not the case at all. Pray about it.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

The Septuagint contains serious Errors.

So does the Masoretic Text (MT). Virtually all of the OT quotes in the NT writings match the Septuagint (LXX), but not the MT. Likewise, there is a lot of evidence supporting the LXX version of Zechariah 14:5, and none supporting the MT version. The Jewish Publication Society has an official policy of using the MT for its bible translations, but chose to use the LXX version of Zechariah 14:5 in some of their bibles. That should tell you something

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Mr AI, Do most of the old testament quotes in the new testament match the septuagint?

"Yes, approximately two-thirds of the Old Testament quotes in the New Testament come from the Septuagint (LXX), indicating a strong reliance on this Greek translation by the New Testament authors. This is significant as it shows the LXX was widely used in the early Church. "

 

[cv5]

The Septuagint contains serious Errors.
People who actually have formal training have told me about this. In fact, Peter quotes a septuagint error, causing it to become inspired scripture while beiNg guided by the holy ghost. It was a rushed early translation.

The people who translated the Septuagint were not as careful as other copyists. The LXX is a translation from HEBREW to GREEK which should, just by its self set off alarms in your head.
The Septuagint is a dicey thing.
Its almost like youre testing me to see if I really know what I am talking about, or if I am such a lard ball that I would slip under a vehicle myself.

So, this is not the case at all. Pray about it.

The LXX copies (maybe 2 complete codexes) that we have in our hands today does have errors.
However consider that the ancient copies used by the New Testament writers did NOT have these errors.

In fact it is the Masoretic that has the most errors.......mainly because of editing by Rabbi Akiva 100ish AD.

Nevertheless it is still serviceable. Because you see God in His wisdom used a distributed message system with fractal and code structures that are resilient to hostile jamming and signal disruption and degradation.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

In fact it is the Masoretic that has the most errors.......mainly because of editing by Rabbi Akiva 100ish AD.

I think the Masoretes (500-1000AD) introduced some of that error. I know for a fact that they changed Zechariah 14:5 simply by changing the pronunciation of a word that occurs 3 times in that verse. The written text was fine, but by simply altering the pronunciation of the Hebrew word nstm they changed its meaning from blocked up (the correct reading) to you shall flee.

 

[Racham]

Mr AI, Do most of the old testament quotes in the new testament match the septuagint?

"Yes, approximately two-thirds of the Old Testament quotes in the New Testament come from the Septuagint (LXX), indicating a strong reliance on this Greek translation by the New Testament authors. This is significant as it shows the LXX was widely used in the early Church. "

To be forthcoming I was referring to all of Zechariah 14. Even my previous post remains as such.

A'i' is heaps and ruins, which are only the result of Kings/demons and cousellors that build for themselves cities that lay in ruin.

I attached the verses, the septugint LXX is translated into english in that case.

The Septuagint LXX was a literal translation of a metaphorical language text (hebrew).

You may be a well known member, But I think it is quite obvious that you are cherry picking. It still doesnt explain the lack of discrepancies even in verse 4 of chapter 14 of Zechariah.

As for your confusion and failure to address all aspects... I wonder if you really know what you are talking about. This is because there is enough from the rest of the chapter in the LXX an hebrew that corroborate that Jesus would stand on the mout of olives in verse 4, where you cherry picked verse 5. Do you see now why are are people talking about your misteak? Obviously a person should be given a chance to defend themselves so, why such confusion about the subject? Why quote the wrong verse? Why cherry pick the wrong verse and claim fantasy?

All scripture is God breathed, like refined gold, purified seven times.

It is the furnace of affliction for those who seek to discredit it.

 

[Racham]

The LXX copies (maybe 2 complete codexes) that we have in our hands today does have errors.
However consider that the ancient copies used by the New Testament writers did NOT have these errors.

In fact it is the Masoretic that has the most errors.......mainly because of editing by Rabbi Akiva 100ish AD.

Nevertheless it is still serviceable. Because you see God in His wisdom used a distributed message system with fractal and code structures that are resilient to hostile jamming and signal disruption and degradation.

I know that was the argument raised by ChristRoseFromTheDead,
Yet, I still havent recieved an explaination from him why he zeroe. In on verse 5, when I mentioned verse 4.

I mean if there was something to this I would be interested in considering my viewpoint... Ive been looking for the discrepancies and it seems unrelated to what I mentioned.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

To be forthcoming I was referring to all of Zechariah 14. Even my previous post remains as such.

A'i' is heaps and ruins, which are only the result of Kings/demons and cousellors that build for themselves cities that lay in ruin.

I attached the verses, the septugint LXX is translated into english in that case.

The Septuagint LXX was a literal translation of a metaphorical language text (hebrew).

You may be a well known member, But I think it is quite obvious that you are cherry picking. It still doesnt explain the lack of discrepancies even in verse 4 of chapter 14 of Zechariah.

As for your confusion and failure to address all aspects... I wonder if you really know what you are talking about. This is because there is enough from the rest of the chapter in the LXX an hebrew that corroborate that Jesus would stand on the mout of olives in verse 4, where you cherry picked verse 5. Do you see now why are are people talking about your misteak? Obviously a person should be given a chance to defend themselves so, why such confusion about the subject? Why quote the wrong verse? Why cherry pick the wrong verse and claim fantasy?

All scripture is God breathed, like refined gold, purified seven times.

It is the furnace of affliction for those who seek to discredit it.

IF you want to have serious conversation on this matter, then let's do so. I am an expert, probably the world's leading expert, on this topic, so I have no patience with someone who is clearly not knowledgable about the matter, yet is trying to look like he knows what he's talking aout.

IMO verses 1-2 refer to the sacking of Jerusalem by either the Romans or Antiochus Ephiphanes IV.

Verse 3 is referring to when Jesus walked on the Mt Olives during his ministry.

Verses 4 and 5 (excepting the last sentence of verse 5) describe an earthquake that caused a landslide that blocked up the Kidron Valley between Azal Valley and EnRogel in the kings' gardens at the juncture of the Hinnon Valley and the Kidron Valley. It's unknown when exactly that landslide occurred, but I suspect it happened when Christ died, as it is written that there was a great commotion and the rocks split. There is photographic and geologic evidence of that landslide extending from the kings' gardens to Azal, just as the LXX version of Zechariah 14:5 states. The Israel Government Names Committee named Wady Yasul, Nahal Azal (Azal Valley) in 1955 and named the hill forming its southern slope (Jabel Mukabeer), Mount Azal in 1992. Since Azal lies due south of Jerusalem, the notion of fleeing east to Azal through a split Mt of Olives (as verses 4 and 5 in the Masoretic Text suggest) becomes impossible. The maps below illustrate this clearly. So there will be no fleeing through a split Mount of Olives to Azal. That is a Jewish tradition mirroring Moses splitting the Red Sea for Israel to flee through that was added to the Masoretic Text simply by changing 2 vowels in a word used 3 times in verse 5.

 

[Racham]

IF you want to have serious conversation on this matter, then let's do so. I am an expert, probably the world's leading expert, on this topic, so I have no patience with someone who is clearly not knowledgable about the matter, yet is trying to look like he knows what he's talking aout.

IMO verses 1-2 refer to the sacking of Jerusalem by either the Romans or Antiochus Ephiphanes IV.

Verse 3 is referring to when Jesus walked on the Mt Olives during his ministry.

Verses 4 and 5 (excepting the last sentence of verse 5) describe an earthquake that caused a landslide that blocked up the Kidron Valley between Azal Valley and EnRogel in the kings' gardens at the juncture of the Hinnon Valley and the Kidron Valley. It's unknown when exactly that landslide occurred, but I suspect it happened when Christ died, as it is written that there was a great commotion and the rocks split. There is photographic and geologic evidence of that landslide extending from the kings' gardens to Azal, just as the LXX version of Zechariah 14:5 states. The Israel Government Names Committee named Wady Yasul, Nahal Azal (Azal Valley) in 1955 and named the hill forming its southern slope (Jabel Mukabeer), Mount Azal in 1992. Since Azal lies due south of Jerusalem, the notion of fleeing east to Azal through a split Mt of Olives (as verses 4 and 5 in the Masoretic Text suggest) becomes impossible. The maps below illustrate this clearly. So there will be no fleeing through a split Mount of Olives to Azal. That is a Jewish tradition mirroring Moses splitting the Red Sea for Israel to flee through that was added to the Masoretic Text simply by changing 2 vowels in a word used 3 times in verse 5.

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Ok. Now, I tend to be very openminded about things. Your explaination does have merit. Obviously, anyone would obviously need convincing within reason.

So, I can see that you are set on thinking any fulfillment was in the past. Now, that doesnt mean I have shut out any possibility of this, ok? Did we ever look up the meaning of Azal? I havent, so thats what I am researching next. Also, wasnt there supposed to be a river that runs to the mediterranian and the dead sea during this time period? I know there are roped off cisterns...

I will take a look at it from this different perspective regarding Zechariah 14. Im not ready to make any hard and fast decisions, but I think it might have merit.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Ok. Now, I tend to be very openminded about things. Your explaination does have merit. Obviously, anyone would obviously need convincing within reason.

So, I can see that you are set on thinking any fulfillment was in the past. Now, that doesnt mean I have shut out any possibility of this, ok? Did we ever look up the meaning of Azal? I havent, so thats what I am researching next. Also, wasnt there supposed to be a river that runs to the mediterranian and the dead sea during this time period? I know there are roped off cisterns...

I will take a look at it from this different perspective regarding Zechariah 14. Im not ready to make any hard and fast decisions, but I think it might have merit.

I don't believe all of Zechariah 14 has been fulfilled. Just the first 5 verses minus the last sentence of verse 5, which I think should be a part of verse 6. This will help you in your studies

https://zechariahfourteenfive.wordpress.com/2011/12/19/azal-a-longtime-mystery-rediscovered/

 

[Racham]

I don't believe all of Zechariah 14 has been fulfilled. Just the first 5 verses minus the last sentence of verse 5, which I think should be a part of verse 6. This will help you in your studies

https://zechariahfourteenfive.wordpress.com/2011/12/19/azal-a-longtime-mystery-rediscovered/

Verse numbers are a recent invention.


I love it when people claim being some kind of experts.. or claim some kind of Velocirapture or some kind of "youre really -----"

 

[Mem]

Should a pilgrimage be adopted as a fundamental right of every believer? I do think so. "Let my people go."

 

[Pilgrimshope]

I don't believe all of Zechariah 14 has been fulfilled. Just the first 5 verses minus the last sentence of verse 5, which I think should be a part of verse 6. This will help you in your studies

https://zechariahfourteenfive.wordpress.com/2011/12/19/azal-a-longtime-mystery-rediscovered/

“And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be. And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.”
‭‭Zechariah‬ ‭14:8-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; “

“He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)”
‭‭John‬ ‭7:38-39‬ ‭

“and said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭24:46-47‬ ‭

“the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.”

“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:18-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”
‭‭Philippians‬ ‭2:9-11‬ ‭

“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭4:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[Racham]

The court has sat in judgement. All kingdoms under heaven belong to the saints!
Daniel 7:22,26

Jesus' Kingdom shall never end!

 

[Follower777]

I identify as Spiritual Israel, so relate to "Replace theology" as I understand "End Time" Bible Prophecy. It relates to we covenant keeping Christians, being Israel, IN CHRIST, our Lord and Savior. Not these self-proclaimed Jews, claiming, to be God's people, Israel, to be able to quote God's promises, of giving Israel, the land of Canaan, Palestine today, to justify their murder and slaughter, ethnic cleansing 10's of thousands of innocent people, ( women & children, included ) Rev 2:9 Rev 3:9

The Jewish nation of today, in the Middle East is not the Israel of the Bible. They are a people believing & fulfilling the Zionist Movement, manufactured by the Roman Church these last 110+ years, to reclaim the "Holy Lands" for the Anti-Christ's end times motives.

This Zionism is supported by most Protestant Churches today, our president and many high level government war-hawks. Zionism is an illegal land grab and slaughter of innocence ( men, women & children ) ethnic cleansing, to bring about the New World Order, a world economic reset, ("you will own nothing and be happy") and a religious ecumenism being fostered by the (un-)Holy Roman Church. Their one world religion, where THEY (the AntiChrist), the Pope being God, rules Earth from Jerusalem, God's Holy Mountain, for this "millennium", IT -> The Roman Church, being the spiritual body of Christ on earth.

It's their doctrinal, theological beliefs, presented in their writings and creeds. Check it out ! Tis BLASPHEMY ! The AntiChrist !! Do your own "due diligence" and BELIEVE Jesus, our Lord & King ... John 3:16

The Jewish nation ceased to be God's covenant people when they “corporately” ( the Nation, as God's chosen people, The Church) rejected Christ and broke the terms of the covenant, stoned Steven in Acts 6, and declared, "We have no king, but Caesar" in John 19.

Today, the covenant promises are inherited by spiritual Israel—those who follow Jesus and keep God's commandments.

The Covenant Was Conditional

1. Exodus 19:5–6 – “Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure…”
2. Deuteronomy 28:1–2, 15 – Blessings and curses based on obedience.
3. Jeremiah 11:3–4, 10 – “Cursed be the man that obeyeth not the words of this covenant… they are turned back to the iniquities of their forefathers…”

National Rejection of Christ

1. John 1:11 – “He came unto his own, and his own received him not.”
2. Luke 19:41–44 – Jesus weeps over Jerusalem, foretelling its destruction due to not recognizing “the time of thy visitation.”
3. Matthew 21:43 – “The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.”

The Outward Signs Lost Their Power

1. Daniel 9:26–27 – The Messiah will “cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease.”
2. Hebrews 10:1–10 – The sacrificial system was a shadow of Christ’s offering; with His sacrifice, it became obsolete.
3. Matthew 23:38 – “Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.”

Modern Jews Are Not Spiritual Israel

1. Romans 2:28–29 – “He is not a Jew, which is one outwardly… but he is a Jew, which is one inwardly…”
2. Galatians 3:28–29 – “If ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
3. Romans 9:6–8 – “They are not all Israel, which are of Israel…”

The Sabbath and Covenant

1. Exodus 31:16–17 – “Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath… for a perpetual covenant.”
2. Isaiah 56:2–6 – Promises to the foreigner who keeps the Sabbath and holds fast God’s covenant.
3. Ezekiel 20:12, 20 – “Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them…”

Continued Responsibility to Evangelize

1. Romans 1:16 – “To the Jew first, and also to the Greek.”
2. Romans 10:1 – “Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.”
3. Acts 13:46–47 – Paul and Barnabas preached first to the Jews, then to the Gentiles after rejection.

Reverence for Their Past

1. Romans 3:1–2 – “What advantage then hath the Jew?… unto them were committed the oracles of God.”
2. Romans 9:4–5 – “Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants… and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came…”
3. Matthew 5:17 – “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets…”

Each of these verses harmonizes, that God’s covenant was never meant to be inherited by lineage alone, but through faith and obedience to Christ.

• Do you see the Character of Christ, His Righteousness, being represented in these people, calling themselves Jews, in the middle East, slaughtering Palestinian, women and children?
• Are you not aware of the Catholic Church's involvement in Zionism and the return of Jews to Palestine, returning this SO CALLED “Israel” to Palestine, in 1920-49 ?
• Do you realize that many these people over in Palestine, calling themselves Jews, have no linage from Abraham / Jacob ? They are Khazarian Jews, who adopted, Judaism, back in the 800s.
• Rev 2:9 "I know your works, tribulation, and poverty (but you are rich); and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan."
• Rev 3:9 "Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you."( the "you" here is spiritual Israel )
• nuf sed

"I identify as Spiritual Israel"
Is that so? Well, I have news for you:
Only an ethnic son of Jacob who is a believer in the risen Christ can legitimately hold that title. Like Paul the Apostle, or Peter the Apostle.
Do you have any evidence to prove your assertion?

Yes friend, I have "evidence" ... reread the above post that you commented on. The 21+ Bible references are evidence to this point.

ALL who are obedient… are God's people, whether they be Jew or Gentile.

Bible Support:

• Romans 10:12–13 – “For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek… For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
• Acts 10:34–35 – “God is no respecter of persons: but in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.”
• Ephesians 2:14–15 – “He is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us…”

I'd be interested for You to supply a verse, referencing how I am NOT a spiritual Jew, in Christ.

 

[Omegatime]

Luke 21:23 Alas for those who are with child and for those who give suck in those days! For great distress shall be upon the earth and wrath upon this people; 24 they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led captive among all nations; and Jerusalem will be trodden down by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

This is talking about when the antichrist is reigning after the middle of the Tribulation so the Time of the Gentiles is also in effect.

The people talked about is Israel

 

[Racham]

Luke 21:23 Alas for those who are with child and for those who give suck in those days! For great distress shall be upon the earth and wrath upon this people; 24 they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led captive among all nations; and Jerusalem will be trodden down by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

This is talking about when the antichrist is reigning after the middle of the Tribulation so the Time of the Gentiles is also in effect.

The people talked about is Israel

There is more than one antichrist, Johns letters talk about this.