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Gods will on all the earth is to save as many as possible from the final judgment that must take place.
His Righteousness is found in his mercy and long suffering. His word are also his promises that will not pass until all is fulfilled.
What started in Israel will end in israel.
Scripture tells us that its not the outward appearance but the inward that determines a jew the same can be said of a Christian.
It's the heart of the matter. ..as the lord always points to the heart.
Now to answer your question as you say the spirit won't let me directly.....will all Israel be saved .....yes....are all jews Israel..... no.
The same can be said for Christians can it not?
This goes right along with......Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, and might. And love your neighbor as yourself.
the fulfillment of the all the commandments.
We must stop thinking all jews are all the same. Jesus clearly exposed this when he came the first time. That has been my message to all that will hear it.

btw you didn't answer my question which is "What is God's plan for those in Israel who go against his will? ". It's difficult to get a direct answer to this question for some reason.
 
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John was writing Jesus's Words to the CHURCHES, NOT to the Jews.
Some "Christians", even here, are of the synagogue of Satan, and say they are Jews, but are not.

That’s not much of an analysis.

Its obvious from the text writing to the church - but its a warning about who?

Which Jews?

Also are they Judea or all tribes?

does that relate only to that time or the future?

How does it relate to the Jews at present?

Is there any evidence that the Jews of today actually have lineage to the Jews of that time?

Etc…
 
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Did you watch the boat tour and them cheering destruction?
so we can we say you clearly deny scripture?

But a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter. His praise is not from man but from God.
Romans 2:29
You deliberately miss the connection between God and the nation of Israel. You should look up the world everlasting. Did you see the Gazan Arabs cheering Hamas as they murdered Israeli women and babies and raped mothers in from of their children. Gazans should be glad that Israel is being so merciful. Most countries would have turned Gaza into a car park the day after the Hamas attack.

Disregarding any covenant relationship with God, Israel has every right to defend itself. It also has no obligation to help Gazans who are only concerned with the destruction of Israel. Since you are so clever, how about you come up with a solution. Hint. The complete destruction of Israel is not an option. And if Israel is an occupying force in the West Bank, so is America in its southern states. Why are woke Americans not marching in the streets to demand handing back California and Texas to Mexico? I take it that you are demanding the return of annexed Mexican territory to its rightful owner. If not, you should just shut up about Israel and not expose your ignorant hypocrisy any further.
 
Wait, are you saying Israel is a godly nation led of the holy spirit?
That is not what I said and you know it. I was referring to your dismissive comments re Derek Prince, Jack Hibbs and Amir Tsafati. Are you deliberately trying to cause trouble? Don't take me on. You dig a hole with your tongue and you will fall into it.
 
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That is not what I said and you know it. I was referring to your dismissive comments re Derek Prince, Jack Hibbs and Amir Tsafati. Are you deliberately trying to cause trouble? Don't take me on. You dig a hole with your tongue and you will fall into it.

You're so confused. I didn't say anything about the persons you mentioned.
 
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I'd like to address my earlier posts i believe will help you understand the gospels better.
Many times people miss the study of what the Holy Spirit has emphasized in scripture.
They draw there own conclusions on a person or event to give or get the meaning...very common.
Imo this has poisoned the intent of certain details that has changed the understanding and purpose of people or events.
I have stated that Jesus was not against the Jewish people but against the pharisees. His argument was against the pharisees.
Who at the time took over the temple and influenced there beliefs upon the people. A works for salvation, strict laws and observance.
The pharisees thought there selves higher holy than all others.
A pharisees is a more type of person rather than a actual temple authority.
The Word pharisees is used to describe not only the temple authority of the day but also the coming church false teachers and preacher.
A pharisees can be any person and these are its definitions.

Phar·i·see
/ˈferəˌsē/
noun
plural noun: Pharisees
a member of an ancient Jewish sect, distinguished by strict observance of the traditional and written law, and commonly held to have pretensions to superior sanctity.
a self-righteous person; a hypocrite.

pharisees
Overview
Usage examples
Similar and opposite words
Pronunciation
pharisee
bigot.
charlatan.
crook.
impostor.
phony.
trickster.

So as you can see Jesus was not addressing Israel as a whole nor condemning judisim but addressing the ones that were misleading the people.
Jesus came for the lost sheep of Israel first...he was followed by large crowds he had many disciples John's disciples,.....why?
My sheep hear my voice and follow...I am the good shepherd.
We see this to day as a new movement for the same narrative is tacking place. Let's get rid of this Jesus keep God out of it.
But its the same old tactic just a uniformed generation.
 
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You deliberately miss the connection between God and the nation of Israel. You should look up the world everlasting. Did you see the Gazan Arabs cheering Hamas as they murdered Israeli women and babies and raped mothers in from of their children. Gazans should be glad that Israel is being so merciful. Most countries would have turned Gaza into a car park the day after the Hamas attack.

Disregarding any covenant relationship with God, Israel has every right to defend itself. It also has no obligation to help Gazans who are only concerned with the destruction of Israel. Since you are so clever, how about you come up with a solution. Hint. The complete destruction of Israel is not an option. And if Israel is an occupying force in the West Bank, so is America in its southern states. Why are woke Americans not marching in the streets to demand handing back California and Texas to Mexico? I take it that you are demanding the return of annexed Mexican territory to its rightful owner. If not, you should just shut up about Israel and not expose your ignorant hypocrisy any further.

Rape was alleged and never proven according to the honest and renown Jewish scholar N. Finklestein who is beyond reproach and the ultimate scholar on Gaza

Not comparable ... and so triggered, wonder why. :unsure:
 
The hatred of the Jews is deep up north. Put em in their place President Trump!

Donald J. Trump
Wow! Canada has just announced that it is backing statehood for Palestine. That will make it very hard for us to make a Trade Deal with them. Oh’ Canada!!!
 
Here's a question everyone needs to ask themselves. If the modern worldly nation of Israel ceased to exist would your faith in God still stand? Don't say "That can never happen" because it doesn't answer the question and implies that your faith is based on the existence of the modern state of Israel.
 
Here's a question everyone needs to ask themselves. If the modern worldly nation of Israel ceased to exist would your faith in God still stand? Don't say "That can never happen" because it doesn't answer the question and implies that your faith is based on the existence of the modern state of Israel.

My faith increased exponentially when I can out of that false narrative, but then I was only very mildly brainwashed, so it might be different for those firmly entrenched.
 
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Here's a question everyone needs to ask themselves. If the modern worldly nation of Israel ceased to exist would your faith in God still stand? Don't say "That can never happen" because it doesn't answer the question and implies that your faith is based on the existence of the modern state of Israel.
This is such a silly hypothetical question.

My faith was given to me by God. So nothing can shake that, because He is the One who keeps it. He is the Author and Finisher of it.

It’s almost like your kind are incapable of hearing what we’re saying.

We KNOW present day Israel is mostly secular, agnostic, or extreme legalist like the Hasidic.
Irrelevant to the fact that God said He was going to bring them back, and use those that hate the Jews as judgement on them until they acknowledge that Jesus is their Messiah.

But it absolutely NEVER works out for those people God uses to discipline His people.
 
Here's a question everyone needs to ask themselves. If the modern worldly nation of Israel ceased to exist would your faith in God still stand? Don't say "That can never happen" because it doesn't answer the question and implies that your faith is based on the existence of the modern state of Israel.


Nope it doesn't. God keeps His promises. And I believe in a promise keeping God. If America was the apple of God's eye, I'd be saying the same thing. Your problem is with the Jews. It's you who doesn't believe the Word, not us. We take God literally at His Word.
 
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But it absolutely NEVER works out for those people God uses to discipline His people.

How about the 2 witnesses who will torture Israel for 3.5 years? Will it work out for them?

And they that dwell upon the land will rejoice over them, and make merry, and will send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tortured them that dwelled on the land. Revelation 11:10
 
Nope it doesn't. God keeps His promises. And I believe in a promise keeping God. If America was the apple of God's eye, I'd be saying the same thing. Your problem is with the Jews. It's you who doesn't believe the Word, not us. We take God literally at His Word.



God never promised what you say - in any event, what’s your position on the below;


Is the circumcise covenant everlasting / forever or NOT?


Gen 17:13 - Whether born in your household or bought with your money, they must be circumcised. My covenant in your flesh is to be an everlasting covenant.

The word used we have discussed before - owlam / root olam
 
This is such a silly hypothetical question.

My faith was given to me by God. So nothing can shake that, because He is the One who keeps it. He is the Author and Finisher of it.

It’s almost like your kind are incapable of hearing what we’re saying.

We KNOW present day Israel is mostly secular, agnostic, or extreme legalist like the Hasidic.
Irrelevant to the fact that God said He was going to bring them back, and use those that hate the Jews as judgement on them until they acknowledge that Jesus is their Messiah.

But it absolutely NEVER works out for those people God uses to discipline His people.


It was said the sun never set on the British Empire.

(This) used to explain the vastness of the British Empire. Between the 18th and 20th century, the British Empire acquired more territories making it the largest empire in history. The Empire had establishments in Africa, Asia, Europe, America, and numerous Islands across the globe. Historians established that roughly 25% of the earth landmass was in control of the British. The region was so extensive that at any one time there was daylight in one of the territories.

They broke their word to Israel with promised land. And look at them today. The Canadian Prime Minister said he would arrest Netanyahu if he set foot in Canada. I said to my hubby then "Well that's the end of his career". Not even a week later, Trudeau resigned and no one has heard of him since. There was a politician in Canada. He promised that if he became PM he would do as Trump did and recognize Jerusalem as Israels capital by moving their embassy. When he got in office, he broke that promise. He had one of the shortest terms as PM in Canada. I don't believe these issues to be coincidences.
 
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