666 and Islam?

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greenonions said:
Revelation 13:16 (NKJV) Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.

The man seems to be Solomon because he received 666 talents of gold year by year (1 Kings 10:14; 2 Chronicles 9:13), and he has wisdom and understanding (1 Kings 4:29).

The Hebrew Old Testament was written with consonants only. So Solomon would be something like SLMN (not exactly, but you get the idea). Hebrew and related languages also have 3-consonant roots as the basis of words, so, let's consider the first three consonants: SLM. Notice how you spell Islam with only consonants: SLM.

What do you think?
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I believe Islam is directly linked to the end times. The ones who will invade Israel before the Lord's return will be people from the surrounding nations, who are islamic. That is just biblical fact.

Mark of the beast can potentially be implemented by the islamic "mahdi", their good guy, our bad guy. If you compare islamic eschatology to ours, its like the Bible in reverse. They have two guys coming; Mahdi and Isa (their version of Jesus) and one bad guy Dajjal, the jewish antichrist. We have one good guy coming, the jewish CHRIST, and two bad guys coming, the earth beast and the false prophet. I just find that too much of a coincidence.

They teach that when the mahdi comes you no longer have the option to pay the jizyah tax(tax paid by infidels living within an islamic caliphate), you must either convert or die. This could be the mark of the beast.

Islam also talks about a "beast" rising:

"In Islamic eschatology, the "beast" refers to a creature (Dabba) that will emerge from the earth as one of the major signs of the Day of Judgment. This beast is described in Islamic texts as being unlike any known animal and capable of speech. It will appear after the sun rises from the west and will mark people with a sign on their faces, distinguishing believers from disbeliever "

I am not by any means saying the islamic writings are correct or prophetic, but what I am saying is that biblically speaking one thing is for sure: You will see islamic nations trample Jerusalem.
 
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DavidLamb said:
It is not biblical fact, because (apart from anything else) Islam is not mentioned in the bible.
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Of course the name isn't, but the nations surrounding Israel are. And what nations would those be? Open a map and zoom out from Jerusalem, what do you see? Nothing but islamic nations surrounding it.
 
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DavidLamb said:
What biblical evidence do you have that we are intended to work out things such as the identity of the beast by comparing the letters of two names in English, in this case, Solomon and Islam?
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Proverbs 25:2

New King James Version

2 It is the glory of God to conceal a matter,
But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.
 
PennEd said:
Proverbs 25:2

New King James Version

2 It is the glory of God to conceal a matter,
But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.
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My question to greenonions was: "What biblical evidence do you have that we are intended to work out things such as the identity of the beast by comparing the letters of two names in English, in this case, Solomon and Islam? " Proverbs 25:2 doesn't mention comparing the spelling in English of two names. It requires a great deal of assumption to believe that the verse gives authority for the idea of comparing the consonants of names in English of Solomon and Islam in order to make deductions about the beast of Revelation.
 
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Slimsumo said:
I am not by any means saying the islamic writings are correct or prophetic, but what I am saying is that biblically speaking one thing is for sure: You will see islamic nations trample Jerusalem.
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How are they going to get there? Israel would simply nuke them if armies started amassing against them
 
Slimsumo said:
Of course the name isn't, but the nations surrounding Israel are. And what nations would those be? Open a map and zoom out from Jerusalem, what do you see? Nothing but islamic nations surrounding it.
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Which bible verses are these based on?


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Slimsumo said:
“I am going to make Jerusalem a cup that sends all the surrounding peoples reeling. Judah will be besieged as well as Jerusalem.
Zechariah 12:2-3

Psalm 83 lists all the areas involved and these are all majority muslim areas these days.

https://www.messianicbible.com/feature/psalm-83-ezekiel-38-and-the-coming-battles-for-israel/
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Zec 12:1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.
Zec 12:2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

Zec 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zec 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

The whole world, every nation, will be against Jerusalem, Jews.

This is the battle of Armageddon which is part of the wrath of God.

So the world already took the mark of the beast and the New Age Christ is their God.

Which he will exalt himself above all that is called God, or is worshipped.

So there is no Islam, no Buddhism, no Hinduism, no religions.

Also the Roman Empire will not lose her dominion until Jesus puts down the world.

Which they will devour the whole world, tread it down, and break it in pieces.

Which is by the new age christianity which is a Caucasian led plan and the New Age Christ will be a Caucasian man.

The United Nations supports new age organizations.

The Bible says Babylon(Iraq), Medo-Persia(Iran), will never have physical dominion again, and no Arab nation will to be a great power.

The Roman Empire does not lose their dominion so the coalition is of Caucasians the new age christianity.

I doubt that there will be too many Muslims left when the world takes the mark of the beast for they will rebel against the new age for they do not acknowledge a personal God and they will hinder Islam from preaching their religion.

Although the Arab governments might go along being persuaded the New Age Christ has the right perspective of reality.
 
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tablet123 said:
Zec 12:1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.
Zec 12:2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

Zec 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zec 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

The whole world, every nation, will be against Jerusalem, Jews.

This is the battle of Armageddon which is part of the wrath of God.

So the world already took the mark of the beast and the New Age Christ is their God.

Which he will exalt himself above all that is called God, or is worshipped.

So there is no Islam, no Buddhism, no Hinduism, no religions.

Also the Roman Empire will not lose her dominion until Jesus puts down the world.

Which they will devour the whole world, tread it down, and break it in pieces.

Which is by the new age christianity which is a Caucasian led plan and the New Age Christ will be a Caucasian man.

The United Nations supports new age organizations.

The Bible says Babylon(Iraq), Medo-Persia(Iran), will never have physical dominion again, and no Arab nation will to be a great power.

The Roman Empire does not lose their dominion so the coalition is of Caucasians the new age christianity.

I doubt that there will be too many Muslims left when the world takes the mark of the beast for they will rebel against the new age for they do not acknowledge a personal God and they will hinder Islam from preaching their religion.

Although the Arab governments might go along being persuaded the New Age Christ has the right perspective of reality.
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Yeah, I agree with this. I really don't believe at all that Islam will have any control of the position of the final antichrist or of the false prophet or the one world government.


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greenonions said:
Hi Gideon300, I'm not saying that the beast is Solomon. I'm saying that Solomon's name is a Biblical clue to identify the beast with a similar name, possibly iSLaM.

Are you referring to the Abrahamic Family House? It looks like a complex with 3 buildings. Islam already incorporates some elements of Judaism and Christianity (e.g. monotheism, prophets).
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Yes. Many Christians and Jews believe Islam to be an "Abrahamic religion". Of course, it is the descendants of Ismael and Esau who make up Arab tribes, who are mostly Muslim. So any Christian who seeks some kind of alliance with Islam is utterly deceived. Some Anglican churches have invited Muslim Imams to preach in their churches. In Australia, a Pentecostal bible college invited Muslim scholars to speak.

Muslims have an astounding ability to lie, deceive, distort facts and incite other Muslims to violence. All the while, they claim to be the religion of peace. Islam's "monotheism" is a lie. "Allah" was a moon god. The god of Islam is Satan himself, not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
 
2ndTimeIsTheCharm said:
Yeah, I agree with this. I really don't believe at all that Islam will have any control of the position of the final antichrist or of the false prophet or the one world government.


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If the Roman Empire does not lose their dominion that means they have the power so Islam is not going to rise above them.

Also how would Islam persuade the world to go along with them and they are not going to defeat the world.

Also the antichrist will not acknowledge any god, be of the occult, and honor the God of forces the Cosmos which he will claim to have evolved to be the greatest being.

That is why he has the number 666 for it is the number that they believe exalts people in the occult.

Islam is not even compatible with the beast system.

Also the new age can accomplish their mission because of evolution which is popular, and they are doing it by a peace plan which is more affective than Islam trying to do it by force which is the only they could do it.

For who wants Islam but mainly the Arabs.

Islam would have to fight the world to gain control because of their belief system but they do not have the power to do it.

But the new age can do it because they are doing it by peace with their interpretation of the Bible and religions.

Islam will actually be a problem to the beast system because they are the most stubborn to believe differently.

But the new age will pull in Buddhists, Hinduists, and religions like them, atheists, the Pope and Vatican, and many people who already follow the new age christianity and will increase.

Since the Roman Empire has the dominion and the new age is the plan then their religious system will embrace the new age interpretation of the Bible and the Pope is an admired man among the religions and will have great influence in the world.

The Pope alone would have more influence in the world than Islam ever could.
 
tablet123 said:
Since the Roman Empire has the dominion and the new age is the plan then their religious system will embrace the new age interpretation of the Bible and the Pope is an admired man among the religions and will have great influence in the world.
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Rome is no longer in charge; the US empire is, and the US is not Rome. When the rules-based order is destroyed, then the beast will arise from the pit.
 
ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
Rome is no longer in charge; the US empire is, and the US is not Rome. When the rules-based order is destroyed, then the beast will arise from the pit.
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The Roman Empire at the end time is all the Caucasian led nations and all the nations taken over by Caucasians in league with each other.

Also America is not an empire or a kingdom for those terms mean that they have dominion over the known area.

Which America does not but they are only a nation like all the other nations.

The Bible warns us of the new age christianity which is a Caucasian led plan.

Also the Bible says the Roman Empire does not lose her dominion until Jesus puts the world down so America is part of them.
 
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