Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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Great response. The answer has to be "no" according to reformed theology/Calvinism/TULIP. The Gospel comes AFTER God gives the elect faith in Christ.

Is the Gospel the activity of God?

Ultimately, the Bible is blank page after blank page to the unbeliever according to reformed theology/Calvinism/TULIP.

This is where what you said starts:

If the word of God is doing the provoking, how is that not the activity of God?
Two individuals hear the same gospel. If the word of God provokes the one to salvation, yet the other remains unchanged, what is the cause for the difference? One who focuses on the men says they are the difference. One who focuses on God says He is the difference.[/QUOTE]

This is the post she quoted from. I made extra large the part she isolated and quoted.

Messed up coding is easy to fix. Not fixing it can cause much confusion.
 
I also did a general search for the word "ultimately" hoping that would help me find the original post and poster but no such luck.
 
Regardless of the messed up reply, it is well documented in this and other threads you teach saving faith is part of the gift.
But I have never said what you posted and you know that to be the case.
This is where what you said starts:

If the word of God is doing the provoking, how is that not the activity of God?
Two individuals hear the same gospel. If the word of God provokes the one to salvation, yet the other remains unchanged, what is the cause for the difference? One who focuses on the men says they are the difference. One who focuses on God says He is the difference.

This is the post she quoted from. I made extra large the part she isolated and quoted.

Messed up coding is easy to fix. Not fixing it can cause much confusion.[/QUOTE]
I see. It was part of @Kroogz's post.
 
But I have never said what you posted and you know that to be the case.


This is the post she quoted from. I made extra large the part she isolated and quoted.

Messed up coding is easy to fix. Not fixing it can cause much confusion.
I see. It was part of @Kroogz's post.[/QUOTE]

Yes I see that now. My apologies .
 
Regardless of the messed up reply, it is well documented in this and other threads you teach saving faith is part of the gift.
Grace needs an object to be manifested. To say God is gracious is true. But it doesn't tell how God is gracious or by what means. If the grace of God brings salvation by a particular means, the means of the grace cannot be separated from the grace.
 
I appreciate the help.
You are welcome! It is truly perplexing that they have flesh bringing forth life.

Scripture says the opposite. But we should by now be used to the fact that they oppose
and contradict and outright deny what the Scriptures say. Still, it boggles the mind.
 
Grace needs an object to be manifested. To say God is gracious is true. But it doesn't tell how God is gracious or by what means. If the grace of God brings salvation by a particular means, the means of the grace cannot be separated from the grace.

The faith/belief is exercised by the person (condition) and when it is, by God's grace they receive the gift of salvation
 
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The faith/belief is exercised by the person (condition) and when it is, by God's grace they receive the gift of salvation
You have the man without the Spirit doing that. He is unspiritual and incapable of comprehending or even receiving spiritual truths. He is of the flesh unless you are going to try to tell me that the person without the Spirit really does have the Spirit and is not of the flesh. Those are the distinctions made between saved and unsaved. Flesh brings forth fruit unto death. Except to you guys. But you deny the person with an incurably wicked heart has a heart incapable of submitting to God. You have that bad tree bringing forth the good fruit of faith. That incurably wicked heart in your theology submits to God Whom he hates, and obeys the command to repent and believe even though Scripture says he is incapable of doing that very thing. You throw over the verses that explicitly articulate the things you deny in favour of your man-exalting doctrine that have zero verses to support it.
 
So you have faith leading to grace?
She grew it in her in her incurably wicked heart which she herself cured.

It must be assumed that she believes herself to be one of those people who does not at all fit what the Scriptures proclaim of man.
 
I'm not sure of your answer. Can you just say yes or no?
She seems to be saying she believes Abraham's flesh was different from everyone else's
and brought forth life via faith even though Scripture says that flesh brings forth death.
For it is the Spirit Who gives life, and brings forth life, sustains it, and causes it to grow.
 
Isaiah 17:7-8
In that day we will finally understand that all things come from God our maker, faith, forgiveness, salvation. We will then sing:

Nothing in my hands I bring,
Simply to Thy cross I cling;
Naked, come to Thee for dress,
Helpless, look to Thee for grace:
Foul, I to the fountain fly,
Wash me, Savior, or I die.


We will then understand that all blessings come from our Lord, our creator and sustain-er.
 
She seems to be saying she believes Abraham's flesh was different from everyone else's
and brought forth life via faith even though Scripture says that flesh brings forth death.
For it is the Spirit Who gives life, and brings forth life, sustains it, and causes it to grow.
She has the tail wagging the dog. Grace is antecedent to faith; not the other way around.
 
Late yesterday, I wrote a post (3,629) that sunk the worldly, socialist and carnal rust bucket of a ship called "social justice", to which many professing Christians here obviously subscribe. Many here believe that if God doesn't treat everyone equally, then He's unjust, unfair, unrighteous, thereby buying into this dark world's idea of justice. But the bible teaches that justice is served when righteous retribution is made toward the unrighteous or when a sinner repents and is acquitted of all wrongdoing through justification by God's grace through Christ's substitutionary death whereby He paid the sinner's sin debt on the Cross. This is true justice! The Cross is a vivid demonstration of God's justice (Rom 3:25). For both sinner and saint alike receive what they deserve: the former based on his personal sins and the latter solely on the merits of what Christ earned on his behalf.

The Parable of The Workers focuses on another aspect of Justice in addition to the aspect of Promise: The Rights of the Righteous King of this universe who owns everything in it. Here's the parable:

Matt 20:1-16
20:1 "For the kingdom of heaven is like a landowner who went out early in the morning to hire men to work in his vineyard. 2 He agreed to pay them a denarius for the day and sent them into his vineyard.

3 "About the third hour he went out and saw others standing in the marketplace doing nothing. 4 He told them, 'You also go and work in my vineyard, and I will pay you whatever is right.' 5 So they went.

"He went out again about the sixth hour and the ninth hour and did the same thing. 6 About the eleventh hour he went out and found still others standing around. He asked them, 'Why have you been standing here all day long doing nothing?'

7 "'Because no one has hired us,' they answered.

"He said to them, 'You also go and work in my vineyard.'

8 "When evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, 'Call the workers and pay them their wages, beginning with the last ones hired and going on to the first.'

9 "The workers who were hired about the eleventh hour came and each received a denarius. 10 So when those came who were hired first, they expected to receive more. But each one of them also received a denarius.
11 When they received it, they began to grumble against the landowner. 12'These men who were hired last worked only one hour,' they said, 'and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden of the work and the heat of the day.'

13 "But he answered one of them, 'Friend, I am not being unfair to you. Didn't you agree to work for a denarius? 14 Take your pay and go. I want to give the man who was hired last the same as I gave you. 15 Don't I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?'

16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last."

NIV

Verse 15 says it all! Cannot the landowner do as he sees fit with his own money? Since Jesus clearly said he did, then how is it that you FWers contradict the Savior and claim that God cannot give HIS grace to whomever He wishes, for such an act would make him unfair? Of course, the answer to my question here is found in "b" part of this verse. You FWers are envious of the Father's magnanimous generosity.

Next, notice carefully how this "social justice for all" drivel truly works out in the real world. The workers who were hired first complained against the landowner. They expected to be paid more for working longer hours, completely forgetting that they didn't deserve more since they had already agreed to the wages the owner originally offered. Therefore, the landowner was not unjust since he paid them what he had promised, which rendered the first workers' complaint not only uncalled for but entirely unrighteous! But at the same time he certainly was exceedingly generous with his money with the other workers who worked far fewer hours.

This parable is a great illustration of the truth taught in Isa 55:8-9. God truly does not think or act the way we mere finite, fallible creatures do.

Also, ponder the thief on the cross and his last hour "confession of faith" and compare him with Christians who were saved and served the Lord for many years before they died. But isn't the thief in the same place as this latter group?

In closing then, in order for God to be unjust in electing a sinner unto reprobation, God would have to break a promise to that sinner, or the sinner must be worthy of God's grace which God refused to acknowledge and honor.
 
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She has the tail wagging the dog. Grace is antecedent to faith; not the other way around.
It is always always always God moving first. He draws us with lovingkindness to work repentance in us.

The Word is spread abroad and accomplishes what God desires.