Friday crucifixion?

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DeanM

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Im a Wednesday believer also. If He rose on the third day he wasnt crucified on Friday. Its been shown here that sunset started a new day. Bible says He rose after three days. Do the math. How they came up with a Friday crucifiction is a mystery to me but its wrong. Two sabbaths that week also to throw another monkey in the wrench.
 
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The prophecy was that Jesus would be three days and three nights in the heart of the land. The heart of the land of Judah was the temple mount. Jesus was arrested opposite the temple mount, in Gethsemane, around midnight on Thursday. Jesus was taken to the temple mount, where He was tried, condemned and crucified and buried. He rose on Sunday morning and ascended to the father from the temple mount, a little after His meeting with Mary Magdalene. That amounts to Part of Thursday night, all of Friday night and all of Saturday night: three nights by Jewish inclusive reckoning. And all of Friday day, all of Saturday day and part of Sunday day: three days by Jewish inclusive reckoning.
I think you're saying that the night count began on Thursday night when the Messiah was arrested and ended with the night time of Sunday. If so, that would mean four night times were involved and not three.
 
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Im a Wednesday believer also. If He rose on the third day he wasnt crucified on Friday. Its been shown here that sunset started a new day. Bible says He rose after three days. Do the math. How they came up with a Friday crucifiction is a mystery to me but its wrong. Two sabbaths that week also to throw another monkey in the wrench.
On what day do you think the resurrection took place?
 
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I think you're saying that the night count began on Thursday night when the Messiah was arrested and ended with the night time of Sunday. If so, that would mean four night times were involved and not three.
How so? Thursday night, Friday night, and Saturday night - three nights. By the morning of the first day of the week (our Sunday) the tomb was empty and Jesus had risen from the dead.
 
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How can Sunday evening be earlier than Sunday evening? I know the Jews marked the beginning of the new day at 6PM on what to us was the previous day, but your words seemed to suggest that you were using the usual western timings. You wrote: "We're not used to thinking the day starts in the evening, so let's use clock time. Buried Weds 5:59PM; Thurs 6PM to Fri 5:59 PM, one day/night; Fri 6PM to Sat 5:59PM, one day/night; Sat 6PM to Sun 5:59PM, one day/night; resurrected Sun 6PM, 3 days/nights."
Assuming 6PM marks day boundaries, Sunday evening began at 6PM Saturday (as we know it) and Sunday morning began at 6AM Sunday. So Christ rose from the dead on Sunday evening and Mary went to the tomb on Sunday morning.
 
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How so? Thursday night, Friday night, and Saturday night - three nights. By the morning of the first day of the week (our Sunday) the tomb was empty and Jesus had risen from the dead.
If by "morning" you mean the daytime of Sunday, why couldn't the Messiah have resurrected during the night time of Sunday?
 
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If by "morning" you mean the daytime of Sunday, why couldn't the Messiah have resurrected during the night time of Sunday?
Because the women, as well as Peter and John, went to the tomb early on the first day of the week. For example:

“Now when He rose early on the first day of the week, He appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom He had cast seven demons.” (Mr 16:9 NKJV)
 
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Because the women, as well as Peter and John, went to the tomb early on the first day of the week. For example:

“Now when He rose early on the first day of the week, He appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom He had cast seven demons.” (Mr 16:9 NKJV)
Are you saying that He was never in the tomb on any part of Sunday?
 
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Are you saying that He was never in the tomb on any part of Sunday?
No, I am saying that according to the bible, Peter, John, and various women visited the tomb early in the morning, and found it empty when they got there. He could have risen just before the first of them arrived. In the verse I quoted, Mark is quite specific:

"He rose early on the first day of the week."
 
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No, I am saying that according to the bible, Peter, John, and various women visited the tomb early in the morning, and found it empty when they got there. He could have risen just before the first of them arrived. In the verse I quoted, Mark is quite specific:

"He rose early on the first day of the week."
Early would have begun at 6PM on Saturday
 
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It would be interesting to examine what day Passover occurred in the years 26AD to 33AD. Those years because it's not really certain what year Christ died.
 
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Early would have begun at 6PM on Saturday
Yet Luke specifies morning:

“Now on the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they, and certain other women with them, came to the tomb bringing the spices which they had prepared.” (Lu 24:1 NKJV)

Also, the word translated "early" in Mark 16:9 means (according to the concordance I use):

4404 proi [pro-ee ]

from 4253; adv;

AV-in the morning 5, early in the morning 2, early 2, morning 1; 10

1) in the morning, early
2) the fourth watch of the night, from 3 o clock in the morning until 6 o clock approximately
 
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Yet Luke specifies morning:

“Now on the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they, and certain other women with them, came to the tomb bringing the spices which they had prepared.” (Lu 24:1 NKJV)

Also, the word translated "early" in Mark 16:9 means (according to the concordance I use):

4404 proi [pro-ee ]

from 4253; adv;

AV-in the morning 5, early in the morning 2, early 2, morning 1; 10

1) in the morning, early
2) the fourth watch of the night, from 3 o clock in the morning until 6 o clock approximately
I don't understand what you're getting hung up on. Jesus rose early on Sunday night while it was dark, and Mary went to the tomb early on Sunday morning when it was light.
 
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I don't understand what you're getting hung up on. Jesus rose early on Sunday night while it was dark, and Mary went to the tomb early on Sunday morning when it was light.
I am not "hung up" on anything. I just see in the bible that by early morning on the first day of the week, the tomb was empty. Mark actually says that He rose early (and the Greek word used means "early morning", as I mentioned) on the first day of the week.
 

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Im a Wednesday believer also. If He rose on the third day he wasnt crucified on Friday. Its been shown here that sunset started a new day. Bible says He rose after three days. Do the math. How they came up with a Friday crucifiction is a mystery to me but its wrong. Two sabbaths that week also to throw another monkey in the wrench.
He rose after 3 days... Friday is one day
Saturday is 2 days and Sunday is 3.

Sure it wasn't 72 hours but tradition or Jewish thinking is that any part of the day counts.
 
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I am not "hung up" on anything. I just see in the bible that by early morning on the first day of the week, the tomb was empty. Mark actually says that He rose early (and the Greek word used means "early morning", as I mentioned) on the first day of the week.
It could be that Mark 16:9 is saying that Jesus already being risen appeared to Mary in the morning. I simply inserted a comma to show this

Now when [Jesus] was risen, early the first [day] of the week he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils. Mark 16:9
 

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Jesus is the bread of life....

The jews didn't get manna from God on the sabbath but the manna from Friday did not corrupt or go off.

Jesus went into the grave late Friday and rested on the sabbath. There was no corruption and He rose on the 3rd day.

No manna for that sabbath.
 

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Mat 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

The sabbath... was this the weekly sabbath or a cerimonial sabbath?

Because it states THE sabbath I would say the weekly. And...
Luk 23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment. Luk 24:1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

This clearly shows that for the seventh day sabbath Jesus was resting (dead).

On the 1st day Jesus went back to work..
 
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No, I am saying that according to the bible, Peter, John, and various women visited the tomb early in the morning, and found it empty when they got there. He could have risen just before the first of them arrived. In the verse I quoted, Mark is quite specific:

"He rose early on the first day of the week."
In your post #64 you wrote, "How so? Thursday night, Friday night, and Saturday night - three nights."

And if He was in the tomb on Sunday night, which I think you just implied that He was, then a 4th night would have been involved.