Each day began and ended at sunset
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Friday crucifixion?
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Each day began and ended at sunset
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That's not what I asked. I asked when evening began and ended, not when a calendar day began and ended.
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Evening began at sunset, but I have no idea when it ended
Daybreak....when the sun finally broke over the Golan Heights(hills) on the East side of the Jordan or Sea of Galilee.
You knew when it was coming because of the star or some say three stars that became visible before the Sun rose.
Sunrise in Israel is a very long affair. It is light for almost two hours before the sun rises.
This is due to the sun having to break over the Himalayas and instantly the entire Fertile Cresent is awash in light from the phenomenon known as refraction. This is roughly from the modern western edge of Afghanistan through Iran, Iraq, and Jordan before it hits the hills of the Eastern Bank of the Jordan often referred to as the "West Bank" because of its former ownership by Jordan. Much of Israel is below sea level. This is the reason for the refraction....the desert is extremely flat and Israel is below sea level.
Until that time....it was (and to some degree still is) considered the Sabbath and no work can be done. (Like walking and carrying items too far.
Luke 23:54 clearly states that the day Christ was laid in the tomb was the preparation day that took place on the 14th day of the first month which was the day before the Passover. In Exodus 12:5-8 this is when the Passover lamb was slain and it's blood put over the door posts to protect the people from the death of the firstborn in Egypt. The death of Christ provides for our salvation, forgiveness of sins and protection to all those that believe. Keep in mind as I go forward that the Hebrew day starts at sundown, not midnight. The days go from sundown to sundown.
The last supper was on Wednesday evening after 6pm. Afterwards, Jesus and the disciples went to the Mt of Olives. It was here that the temple guards captured Jesus in the night and took him to the religious leaders who had a trial at night and demanded his crucifixion before Pilate in the morning. Christ was crucified at 9am on Wednesday and died at 3pm, which is when the Passover lamb was to be slain on the preparation day and eaten that night. Christ was put in the tomb by Joseph just prior to 6pm on Wednesday which would be the start of the day of Passover.
Christ was in the tomb 3 days, Wednesday at sundown began Thursday, day 1. Thursdays at sundown began Friday, day 2. Friday at sundown began Saturday, day 3. Saturday at sundown was the end of the 3 days. He rose sometime after 6pm on Saturday. Hope this helps to put things in perspective.
The last supper was on Wednesday evening after 6pm. Afterwards, Jesus and the disciples went to the Mt of Olives. It was here that the temple guards captured Jesus in the night and took him to the religious leaders who had a trial at night and demanded his crucifixion before Pilate in the morning. Christ was crucified at 9am on Wednesday and died at 3pm, which is when the Passover lamb was to be slain on the preparation day and eaten that night. Christ was put in the tomb by Joseph just prior to 6pm on Wednesday which would be the start of the day of Passover.
Christ was in the tomb 3 days, Wednesday at sundown began Thursday, day 1. Thursdays at sundown began Friday, day 2. Friday at sundown began Saturday, day 3. Saturday at sundown was the end of the 3 days. He rose sometime after 6pm on Saturday. Hope this helps to put things in perspective.
[QUOTE="Randy4u2c, post: 5537875, member: 318494
Christ was in the tomb 3 days, Wednesday at sundown began Thursday, day 1. Thursdays at sundown began Friday, day 2. Friday at sundown began Saturday, day 3. Saturday at sundown was the end of the 3 days. He rose sometime after 6pm on Saturday. [/QUOTE]
So, does that mean that He rose on Sunday?
Christ was in the tomb 3 days, Wednesday at sundown began Thursday, day 1. Thursdays at sundown began Friday, day 2. Friday at sundown began Saturday, day 3. Saturday at sundown was the end of the 3 days. He rose sometime after 6pm on Saturday. [/QUOTE]
So, does that mean that He rose on Sunday?
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No
Died and removed from the cross and entombed before Wednesday sundown, which is the beginning of Thursday:
Thursday, Friday, Saturday night in the grave.
Thursday, Friday, Saturday day in the grave.
There days three nights
risen before dawn on Sunday, the feast of first fruits.
The math is straightforward.
The prophecy was that Jesus would be three days and three nights in the heart of the land. The heart of the land of Judah was the temple mount. Jesus was arrested opposite the temple mount, in Gethsemane, around midnight on Thursday. Jesus was taken to the temple mount, where He was tried, condemned and crucified and buried. He rose on Sunday morning and ascended to the father from the temple mount, a little after His meeting with Mary Magdalene. That amounts to Part of Thursday night, all of Friday night and all of Saturday night: three nights by Jewish inclusive reckoning. And all of Friday day, all of Saturday day and part of Sunday day: three days by Jewish inclusive reckoning.
Jesus did not spend night in Jerusalem, once the leaders were trying to kill Him. He would always go out to Bethany for the night, and return to Jerusalem the following day. It was not something Jesus did to stay "in the heart of the land" continuously for three days and nights.
Friday afternoon.
Sat night
Saturday morning
Sun night.
Sunday morning.
Remember that a day is both, the evening and the morning..
Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day., Gen 1:13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.
Technically, literally Jesus was not dead for 3 days and 3 nights
But if any part of the evening and morning = a day. It was 3 days.
Jesus was also suffering from the sins of the world before death.
Not salvational.
Sat night
Saturday morning
Sun night.
Sunday morning.
Remember that a day is both, the evening and the morning..
Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day., Gen 1:13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.
Technically, literally Jesus was not dead for 3 days and 3 nights
But if any part of the evening and morning = a day. It was 3 days.
Jesus was also suffering from the sins of the world before death.
Not salvational.
Don't mess with the coding by erasing any of it or posting within the tags, or changing it in any way.
I agree with what you have said about the high sabbath which was in addition to the weekly sabbath, but not with this:
"Buried Weds 5:59PM; Thurs 6PM to Fri 5:59 PM, one day/night; Fri 6PM to Sat 5:59PM, one day/night; Sat 6PM to Sun 5:59PM, one day/night; resurrected Sun 6PM, 3 days/nights"
If He was buried on Wednesday at 5:59pm, then Wednesday night plus daytime Thursday are the first night and day, Thursday night plus daytime Friday the second night and day, and Friday night and daytime Saturday the third night and day. Besides, He cannot have been raised on Sunday at 6pm because we are told:
“1 ¶ Now after the Sabbath, as the first day]of the week began to dawn, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb. 2 And behold, there was a great earthquake; for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat on it. 3 His countenance was like lightning, and his clothing as white as snow. 4 And the guards shook for fear of him, and became like dead [men]. 5 But the angel answered and said to the women, “Do not be afraid, for I know that you seek Jesus who was crucified. 6 “He is not here; for He is risen, as He said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.” (Mt 28:1-6 NKJV)
You're right, I was wrong - it would be 5 calendar days.
Entombed Wednesday afternoon - calendar day1, daytime 1.
In tomb Thursday - calendar day 2, night time 1, daytime 2.
In tomb Friday - calendar day 3, night time 2, daytime 3.
In tomb Saturday - calendar day 4, night time 3, daytime 4.
In tomb Sunday night time - calendar day 5, night time 4.
That verse just describes when the tomb was opened, not necessarily when Christ rose from the dead. If Christ needed the tomb to be opened before ascending to heaven then they would have seen him at that time, but they didn't so we can assume that was not needed or when he ascended.
Yes, we are not told when the resurrection actually took place, but it cannot have been on Sunday evening as you said, because the tomb was already empty early on Sunday morning, when John, Peter, and the women visited the sepulchre.
But Sunday evening would have been approximately 12 hrs earlier. It could have been empty for that period of time.
How can Sunday evening be earlier than Sunday evening? I know the Jews marked the beginning of the new day at 6PM on what to us was the previous day, but your words seemed to suggest that you were using the usual western timings. You wrote: "We're not used to thinking the day starts in the evening, so let's use clock time. Buried Weds 5:59PM; Thurs 6PM to Fri 5:59 PM, one day/night; Fri 6PM to Sat 5:59PM, one day/night; Sat 6PM to Sun 5:59PM, one day/night; resurrected Sun 6PM, 3 days/nights."