Assurance 0f God's Pardoning Grace
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I know. I had one post post 5 times the other day.CC stalled out just as I was posting.....
I like all the love from God to us all
New International Version
Micah 6:7-8
7 Will the Lord be pleased with thousands of rams,
with ten thousand rivers of olive oil?
Shall I offer my firstborn for my transgression,
the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul?
8 He has shown you, O mortal, what is good.
And what does the Lord require of you?
To act justly and to love mercy
and to walk humbly[a] with your God.
I don't want this to sound offish or offensive because it's just using what I have learned from reading the Bible and it actually is how I view the Reformed doctrine processes.
First and foremost I am greatful to God for everything He has done for me personally and I have no complaints for anything even the trials I must suffer through to learn the lesson God knows I am ready for.
But a lot of what we discover concerning Yeshua and His fulfillment and God's Grace and Mercy was foretold by the Prophets and many others.
But what we're experiencing was promises God made to fellow Brothers and Sisters in the Faith.
So ultimately speaking here, God must keep His word because He cannot lie.
So more than anything else, I am most thankful that God cannot lie and had to keep His promises!
I thank God for being a Being of His Word!
First and foremost I am greatful to God for everything He has done for me personally and I have no complaints for anything even the trials I must suffer through to learn the lesson God knows I am ready for.
But a lot of what we discover concerning Yeshua and His fulfillment and God's Grace and Mercy was foretold by the Prophets and many others.
But what we're experiencing was promises God made to fellow Brothers and Sisters in the Faith.
So ultimately speaking here, God must keep His word because He cannot lie.
So more than anything else, I am most thankful that God cannot lie and had to keep His promises!
I thank God for being a Being of His Word!
What you say is true.
Of course one doesn't negate the other.
The same salvation was available
to Adam an Eve's children, way back then.
He doesn't keep His promise in regards to everlasting life based upon the covenant of law, but upon His Word when the lost call upon Him in faith. Jesus fulfilled everything necessary, while people individually fail by even their own standards, like trying to live in obedience to the law. Today we call that "repenting of sins, and so do the Mormons I've learned recently.
26And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.
Genesis 4
13For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. 14How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed?
Romans 10
Yes, those are good, but IMO Eph. 2:8-9 should always include v. 10, which teaches that only works motivated by faith in God
are good/godly and faith not followed by good works is fake (Jam. 2:17-22). Works not manifesting God's Spirit (Gal. 5:22-23) merely masquerade as Light and are NOT good (2Cor. 11:13-14) and faith without love/GOOD works cheapens grace and is also false.
(Both-and, but faith first :^)
Faith in God given by God to all that are sincere in belief to God's love and mercy by Son for them as well for all is done by Son on that cross first reconciliation, forgiven by God through Son. It is done John 19:30
These in belief, people respond to God and willingly do the work of God called to do by
God, not of themselves to get nothing else. Yes there is work of the flesh that produces nothing but people rewarding them here and now, What good is that to give up one's own soul over here and now being rewarded here on earth for doing good by others and not be real and yet seem as are? Amazing, flesh spirit and God's Spirit collide, God continues in grace for us all, people do not, I know of my old life of wants here and now. Accusing and excusing, not good for me anymore.
Amazing Grace from John Newton, who saw and changed once saw truth and wrote amazing grace
“God “will repay each person according to what they have done.”
To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. For God does not show favoritism.”
Romans 2:6-11 NIV
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.”
2 Corinthians 5:10
Where does this fit ?
“God “will repay each person according to what they have done.”
To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. For God does not show favoritism.”
Romans 2:6-11
Does Gods “grace” make his word untrue or void?
Yeah the real grace of God that saves souls teaches us to repent of doing evil and to do good works
Gods grace sounds like this
“For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people. It teaches us to say “No” to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age, while we wait for the blessed hope—the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good.
These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you.”
Titus 2:11-
His grace teaches us to repent and do good works because this is true
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.”
2 Corinthians 5:10
grace isn’t the excuse why we don’t need to stop doing evil and do good it’s the reason we can many preach a grace tbey rejects Gods word. Whenever grace needs to reject Gods word of judgement it’s not of God
It fits, you not seeing it yet, okay, I agree with your post about people either in belief to God and then do as led or not. Right now presently only the person and God knows truth between God and them Romans 8:15-16
Anyone can do 1 Cor 13:1-3 and miss the imputation of God fro them in 1 Cor 13:4-7-13
God judges motives, as said, when God said go away to that person that said but Lord I did this and that in your name? And God states go away, you who work iniquity. There is glorying in iniquity Romans 12:7-10 I need God to lead not me.
There is a gigantic difference in why, anyone does anything here on earth, God sees the motive, whether it appears as good or not from anyone, God and each person knows their own motive.
anyone might deem as good in belief, might not be from Father's view, I do not know. I, do believe you believe brother and are in a learning process too.
Growing, daily in grace given us to be sincere to Father and Son for the done work done for us to love all, even those that have done us wrong, and ask those that we have done wrong to forgive us too, at least me, and be ready to pay recompense, if they do not forgive
Not easy to do, yet freedom comes from being truthful and accountable, this is not easy to do, yet worth it, thank you
“It fits, you not seeing it yet, “
Can you acknowledge that this quote from the apostle paul is true before you explain why It’s not relevant ?
Is this true ?
“God “will repay each person according to what they have done.”
To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. For God does not show favoritism.”
Romans 2:6-11 NIV
If you agree that’s true and applicable then we agree