The "Exterminate Israel & its Jews" movement...
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Foreknown, called, chosen, and predestined. There seems to be a bit more than just luck going on here.
I'm not a Calvinist, or any other kind of ist or ism, but I think you are misrepresenting John Calvin. And ignoring biblical teaching. Don't take it personal. Read it for yourself. We can discuss it like sensible people, and we don't even have to agree. Isn't that awesome!
"For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified."
I'm not a Calvinist, or any other kind of ist or ism, but I think you are misrepresenting John Calvin. And ignoring biblical teaching. Don't take it personal. Read it for yourself. We can discuss it like sensible people, and we don't even have to agree. Isn't that awesome!
"For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified."
One covenant which is biblical is not replacement theology.
There are not two sets of heirs there is one.
Romans 8:17 states, "Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory."
No mention of the unbelieving Jews.
ONE tree >>>> Same root, same tree, same source of nourishment, one flock, one shepherd,
NOT >>>Two flocks, two trees, two separate inheritances, two separate sets of promises.
The actual replacement is happening when replacing Christ the singular seed of Abraham with a multitudinous
of seeds,
Replacing the children of promise with children of the flesh.
Replacement the word so in Romans 11:26 with the word then, changing and so all Israel will be saved into a promise of salvation for all or some of those who have the right genetics.
And most relevant to this, changing the singular people of God into two separate people!
The Book of Hebrews was written to Jewish converts, there were many Jewish converts after 33 AD and then there were Gentile converts too, all due to the efforts of spreading the Gospel.
Think about what this doctrine you hold to actually does.
There are not two sets of heirs there is one.
Romans 8:17 states, "Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory."
No mention of the unbelieving Jews.
ONE tree >>>> Same root, same tree, same source of nourishment, one flock, one shepherd,
NOT >>>Two flocks, two trees, two separate inheritances, two separate sets of promises.
The actual replacement is happening when replacing Christ the singular seed of Abraham with a multitudinous
of seeds,
Replacing the children of promise with children of the flesh.
Replacement the word so in Romans 11:26 with the word then, changing and so all Israel will be saved into a promise of salvation for all or some of those who have the right genetics.
And most relevant to this, changing the singular people of God into two separate people!
The Book of Hebrews was written to Jewish converts, there were many Jewish converts after 33 AD and then there were Gentile converts too, all due to the efforts of spreading the Gospel.
Think about what this doctrine you hold to actually does.
Jesus Christ is Lord
Romans 14:9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
Jesus Christ is Lord. Not you, not me, but Jesus Christ, the son of God, the firstborn from the dead, He is Lord. He is the judge. He is the master and we all are His servants. When you have a supreme commander He will give many different ones different orders. Some may be sent to infiltrate the enemy, others may sit and listen to the radio to intercept transmissions, still others may fly the bombers, or refuel the bombers, and still others man the guard posts. Everyone is essential, including the cook who prepares the food.
10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
Why? It isn't a rhetorical question. Don't you think the enemy would love to divide the army by having everyone judge each other? Don't you think the enemy would love for us to set an nought each other, shake each others faith, cause some to stumble and backslide? When you judge and set an nought each other you are falling for Satan's temptation. This is a team sport, it takes all of us to do our part.
11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
This isn't a non sequitor. Why are you judging your brother? Because you are not bowing your knee and confessing that Jesus Christ is Lord. Why are you setting at nought your brother? Because you are not bowing your knee and confessing that Jesus Christ is the son of God and through Him all things have been created.
12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
Imagine you appear before that throne and you are asked to give account of why you were setting at nought some brother or judging some brother and at that moment you learn that brother or sister was serving the Lord, they were being faithful, and they had a special assignment from Him. I think I would be filled with shame if that were me trying to defend myself.
13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.
It is one thing for me to look at some Youtube channel and dismiss it, decide I'm not going to "waste my time with that". I may discover at the judgment seat that was a mistake. My error was in not lifting it up to the Lord, asking Him what He wants me to look at. I will need to repent for that. But, what would be much worse is if I decide I need to go on a crusade against this brother or sister's channel without taking that to the Lord. Imagine I build a whole ministry on trying to debunk this brother or sister without taking that to the Lord. This will be much more serious.
Romans 14:9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
Jesus Christ is Lord. Not you, not me, but Jesus Christ, the son of God, the firstborn from the dead, He is Lord. He is the judge. He is the master and we all are His servants. When you have a supreme commander He will give many different ones different orders. Some may be sent to infiltrate the enemy, others may sit and listen to the radio to intercept transmissions, still others may fly the bombers, or refuel the bombers, and still others man the guard posts. Everyone is essential, including the cook who prepares the food.
10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
Why? It isn't a rhetorical question. Don't you think the enemy would love to divide the army by having everyone judge each other? Don't you think the enemy would love for us to set an nought each other, shake each others faith, cause some to stumble and backslide? When you judge and set an nought each other you are falling for Satan's temptation. This is a team sport, it takes all of us to do our part.
11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
This isn't a non sequitor. Why are you judging your brother? Because you are not bowing your knee and confessing that Jesus Christ is Lord. Why are you setting at nought your brother? Because you are not bowing your knee and confessing that Jesus Christ is the son of God and through Him all things have been created.
12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
Imagine you appear before that throne and you are asked to give account of why you were setting at nought some brother or judging some brother and at that moment you learn that brother or sister was serving the Lord, they were being faithful, and they had a special assignment from Him. I think I would be filled with shame if that were me trying to defend myself.
13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.
It is one thing for me to look at some Youtube channel and dismiss it, decide I'm not going to "waste my time with that". I may discover at the judgment seat that was a mistake. My error was in not lifting it up to the Lord, asking Him what He wants me to look at. I will need to repent for that. But, what would be much worse is if I decide I need to go on a crusade against this brother or sister's channel without taking that to the Lord. Imagine I build a whole ministry on trying to debunk this brother or sister without taking that to the Lord. This will be much more serious.
You guys? What guys is that exactly?
I have a post up called The Glorious Return. In that post are three scripture verses where Jesus makes a plain statement regarding His corning return. In each of those statements He represents His return as something that will be happening within the lifetimes of individuals whom He is speaking to.
So far, every person who has responded has provided an explanation that refuses to take Christ literally, but allegorized or spiritualized His words.
Christ said He would come quickly.
According to the Dispy's Christ is either a liar or a fool who can't tell time. Which is it?
If you and I are planning a get together and I tell your something to the effect of, "See ya soon", like " Behold, I come quickly", would you think that soon was referring to 2000 years from now?
Unless Christ is speaking a parable, His words should always be taken literally.
I have never allegorized scripture in my entire life.
But you can click on the post I referred to and witness the allegorization of scripture in real time if you like.
I have a post up called The Glorious Return. In that post are three scripture verses where Jesus makes a plain statement regarding His corning return. In each of those statements He represents His return as something that will be happening within the lifetimes of individuals whom He is speaking to.
So far, every person who has responded has provided an explanation that refuses to take Christ literally, but allegorized or spiritualized His words.
Christ said He would come quickly.
According to the Dispy's Christ is either a liar or a fool who can't tell time. Which is it?
If you and I are planning a get together and I tell your something to the effect of, "See ya soon", like " Behold, I come quickly", would you think that soon was referring to 2000 years from now?
Unless Christ is speaking a parable, His words should always be taken literally.
I have never allegorized scripture in my entire life.
But you can click on the post I referred to and witness the allegorization of scripture in real time if you like.
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I haven't changed, my views about scripture have been consistent for many years. I take Christ at His word. I do not attempt to wrestle from the text what is not there. Or twist it to fit my understanding. Something the Dispy's have been doing since about 1850.
The beginning of the Great Deception.
Out of curiosity, which view mine is it you think has changed?
The beginning of the Great Deception.
Out of curiosity, which view mine is it you think has changed?