Iran attacks Israel, sends hundreds of drones, missiles

[PennEd]

but when did i say i was amillennial?

There are different variations, and people who are Amil don't all believe exactly all the same things with the doctrine, but here is a short overview of what Amillennialism is:

What is Amillennialism?
Amillennialism is actually misnamed. The ‘a’ at the beginning means ‘no’, indicating the proponents of this position believe there will be no millennial reign. But that is not accurate. A better title would be something like ‘realized millennialism’, indicating that we are currently in the millennium.

This view colors all eschatology, or prophetic end times, and so in order for Amillennialism to work, much of Scripture must be allegorized, and left up the readers interpretation, instead of taking the literal view of what the Bible actually says.

Conseuently, the important prophetic passages dealing with Israel, must be "replaced" with the meaning now attributed to the Church.
This is why so many Amils are either greatly ambivalent, or outright hostile about present day Israel, and the Jews that live there. If God is finished with Israel, then they have NO Biblical claim to the Land. Some even go so far as to say they aren't even "real" Jews that live there. It inevitably leads to antisemitism and hatred of the Jews.

Here is a brief video history of where the Amil position came from. Please isolate your rebuttal to the content, NOT the person giving the content.

 

[PennEd]

and what evidence is there that edom is jordan?

Here is Edom, Moab, and Ammon with present day Jordan overlaid:

 

[Gideon300]

Actually, they were victims of the British and American governments, which overthrew their own democratically elected government in the 50's. Which was replaced in the 70's by a fundamentalist regime.

Yes. American meddling in world affairs has often turned out badly. Iran upset the British, who were mostly interested in Iranian oil. Britain is culpable as well as America. The real victims, as usual, are ordinary Iranians who suffer much from the machinations of world powers.

 

[Gideon300]

There are different variations, and people who are Amil don't all believe exactly all the same things with the doctrine, but here is a short overview of what Amillennialism is:

What is Amillennialism?
Amillennialism is actually misnamed. The ‘a’ at the beginning means ‘no’, indicating the proponents of this position believe there will be no millennial reign. But that is not accurate. A better title would be something like ‘realized millennialism’, indicating that we are currently in the millennium.

This view colors all eschatology, or prophetic end times, and so in order for Amillennialism to work, much of Scripture must be allegorized, and left up the readers interpretation, instead of taking the literal view of what the Bible actually says.

Conseuently, the important prophetic passages dealing with Israel, must be "replaced" with the meaning now attributed to the Church.
This is why so many Amils are either greatly ambivalent, or outright hostile about present day Israel, and the Jews that live there. If God is finished with Israel, then they have NO Biblical claim to the Land. Some even go so far as to say they aren't even "real" Jews that live there. It inevitably leads to antisemitism and hatred of the Jews.

Here is a brief video history of where the Amil position came from. Please isolate your rebuttal to the content, NOT the person giving the content.

Thanks for the heads up. I looked at these things about 40 years ago. Amillennialism seemed baseless then and I've seen no reason to believe otherwise. If we are living in a millennial paradise, then something has gone desperately wrong and God has gone on strike.

 

[HeIsHere]

Liberal is simply one of the terms you use to describe anyone who disagrees with you.

I've got a term for you too.
But out of kindness, Ill keep it to myself.
Btw, I thought name calling on this site was against the rules. So much love in this "christian" forum.

And people wonder why the unchurched and unbelieving don't like us.

Its because they see you for who you are, fakes and phonies talking bout Jesus.
You worship political leaders, fake nations, and want to build the Antichrist a beautiful temple, and somehow, you see no problem with that.

God will judge.

Tragic truth.

 

[Eli1]

Tragic truth.

So tragic that you liberals will lose again to the man with the greatest hair in history!

 

[ZNP]

Btw, I thought name calling on this site was against the rules. So much love in this "christian" forum.

Perhaps you should read your own posts:

The only "christians" I know are in this forum, a mean and nasty bunch of judgmental pharisees and fake disciples for the most part. Blind, deaf and deceived. (Post #756 "The US Joins WW3", @TomCullen).

And to say that no one is cheering bloodshed is a damnable lie. Kill em' all for Jesus, that's what's in your heart. Just because you don't come right out and say it, doesn't make it any less true. (Post #754 "The US Joins WW3", @TomCullen).

I know for a fact that Scofield and Darby were Zionist whores. (Post #229 "President Trump's Christianity", @TomCullen).

I see that most people who call themselves christians, at least here in the US, have chosen to worship a man instead of Christ. And they get real nasty with anyone who chooses not to worship with them. I also see that most of what passes for the "christian church" these days, is nothing more than a zionist country club. The Prince of Peace is now the God of War, and christians cheer on the murder of millions with glee. (Post #218 "President Trump's Christianity", @TomCullen).

 

[Yahshua]

Here is Edom, Moab, and Ammon with present day Jordan overlaid:

What's currently happening isn't the fulfillment of Psalms 83. This prophecy has already happened, and we continue to see its effects across the centuries, but our weak translations conceal the clue that helps pinpoint the time it began.


KJV of Psalms 83:1-3
Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God.

2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.

3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.


So the enemies of Israel plot against:

a) God's people
b) God's hidden ones(???)...but who or what are God's hidden ones?


Most read over this cryptic phrase, assuming Asaph is just poetically describing the object of the sentence a second time: "thy people". But no. Whenever the Almighty inspires writing like this, it is purposeful.

The Hebrew word translated as "hidden ones" is Tsephan (צָפַן), which means "to hide; store up; hoard; preserve; secretly place". Again, God's people are already mentioned, so there's no need to mention them twice. A better translation of the Hebrew would be:


They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy secret place (or thy storehouse).


So, what's the plot? The enemies of Israel were plotting against God's people and God's Temple, where the ark of the covenant and all His earthly treasures were stored. This is further confirmed as we read the passage from verse 4 to verse 12.


4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance

[...]

12 Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession.


----

Psalm 83 prophesies that several nations would come together as one to possess the temple of God as their own, and cause Israel to forget who they are. What's key to this prophecy is that THE TEMPLE MUST EXIST for this plot to be carried out, but there is no physical temple today, so what we're currently seeing in the Middle East can't be this prophecy. No temple has existed since 70 AD. So, that leaves one window in time when this plot could've been initiated:


- From the time the 1st temple stood (after the Babylonian exile)

- Through the time when the 2nd temple stood (before the 70 AD destruction)


Ezekiel 35:10 and Obadiah 1:11 explain that Edom is the chief conspirator of this planned "melting pot of nations" that would come together and assume Jacob's possessions; they wanted the temple, while the other nations carried away the people. Recall that Jacob stole the birthright from Esau, so his descendants - the Edomites - always believed that everything Israel possessed should've been theirs.

How did Jacob steal Esau's birthright? By pretending to be him. So, when the opportunity presented itself, Edomites would conspire to claim Israelite identity and steal back the birthright. This is how Herod, an Edomite, became King of the Jews and how the sects of Pharisees and Sadducees assumed control of the temple.

Though they are Abraham's descendants, they are not Israelites. When they were arguing with Christ, they said, "We have never been slaves" (John 8:33), which is true because the Edomites were never taken into Babylonian captivity with Judah or Assyrian captivity with Israel.

 

[Melach]

There are different variations, and people who are Amil don't all believe exactly all the same things with the doctrine, but here is a short overview of what Amillennialism is:

What is Amillennialism?
Amillennialism is actually misnamed. The ‘a’ at the beginning means ‘no’, indicating the proponents of this position believe there will be no millennial reign. But that is not accurate. A better title would be something like ‘realized millennialism’, indicating that we are currently in the millennium.

This view colors all eschatology, or prophetic end times, and so in order for Amillennialism to work, much of Scripture must be allegorized, and left up the readers interpretation, instead of taking the literal view of what the Bible actually says.

Conseuently, the important prophetic passages dealing with Israel, must be "replaced" with the meaning now attributed to the Church.
This is why so many Amils are either greatly ambivalent, or outright hostile about present day Israel, and the Jews that live there. If God is finished with Israel, then they have NO Biblical claim to the Land. Some even go so far as to say they aren't even "real" Jews that live there. It inevitably leads to antisemitism and hatred of the Jews.

Here is a brief video history of where the Amil position came from. Please isolate your rebuttal to the content, NOT the person giving the content.

im in the panmillennialist camp. whatever happens will work for me. i see many strengths in the premillennial and amillennial interpretations, both are viable and both have their weaknesses and strengths.

i am definitely one of those people who claim many of the people there arent real jews, not saying there arent any. but no one will convince me that a ginger from germany is of jacob. there is just no way man. if the argument is that they are mixed, then they are no longer jews. they would be at best called samarians who were mixed breed, and they are even more diluted than that.

people had trouble proving their genealogy after the babylonian captivity, now with no records being kept, it is impossible to prove who is who. not to mention if we go by the hes 10% jewish argument, then send me to jerusalem as well. i have some jews in my maternal lineage. oh wait they wont let me in cause i believe in Jesus.

 

[ZNP]

im in the panmillennialist camp. whatever happens will work for me.

Ah yes, the Doctrine of Athaliah.

Everyone remembers the women who went to the tomb early in the morning and discovered the stone rolled away and discovered Jesus had risen (Mary Magdalene, Joanna and Mary the mother of James).

What they never mention is the women who didn't go, saying "whatever happens will work for me."

 

[PennEd]

i am definitely one of those people who claim many of the people there arent real jews,

I don't understand how someone can believe this silliness.

NO group of people have suffered more over the past 2000 yrs than the Jews. Yes you can find this group or that group that have been persecuted, including some Christians, but consistently, over the milleniums, NO group has been so tortured, displaced, and wantonly murdered more than the Jews, simply for being Jews.

So now you're telling me, the remnant of the 6 million European Jews that were tortured, enslaved, and gassed to death, and Jews REgathered from around the Planet to the Land God gave them, just like Isiah prophesied, aren't really Jews?

WHY THE HECK WOULD THEY WANT TO BE A PART OF THE GROUP THAT HAS GONE THROUGH THAT!!!?

They would all cry like Topel!

 

[Melach]

What's currently happening isn't the fulfillment of Psalms 83. This prophecy has already happened, and we continue to see its effects across the centuries, but our weak translations conceal the clue that helps pinpoint the time it began.


KJV of Psalms 83:1-3
Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God.

2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.

3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.


So the enemies of Israel plot against:

a) God's people
b) God's hidden ones(???)...but who or what are God's hidden ones?


Most read over this cryptic phrase, assuming Asaph is just poetically describing the object of the sentence a second time: "thy people". But no. Whenever the Almighty inspires writing like this, it is purposeful.

The Hebrew word translated as "hidden ones" is Tsephan (צָפַן), which means "to hide; store up; hoard; preserve; secretly place". Again, God's people are already mentioned, so there's no need to mention them twice. A better translation of the Hebrew would be:


They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy secret place (or thy storehouse).


So, what's the plot? The enemies of Israel were plotting against God's people and God's Temple, where the ark of the covenant and all His earthly treasures were stored. This is further confirmed as we read the passage from verse 4 to verse 12.


4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance

[...]

12 Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession.


----

Psalm 83 prophesies that several nations would come together as one to possess the temple of God as their own, and cause Israel to forget who they are. What's key to this prophecy is that THE TEMPLE MUST EXIST for this plot to be carried out, but there is no physical temple today, so what we're currently seeing in the Middle East can't be this prophecy. No temple has existed since 70 AD. So, that leaves one window in time when this plot could've been initiated:


- From the time the 1st temple stood (after the Babylonian exile)

- Through the time when the 2nd temple stood (before the 70 AD destruction)


Ezekiel 35:10 and Obadiah 1:11 explain that Edom is the chief conspirator of this planned "melting pot of nations" that would come together and assume Jacob's possessions; they wanted the temple, while the other nations carried away the people. Recall that Jacob stole the birthright from Esau, so his descendants - the Edomites - always believed that everything Israel possessed should've been theirs.

How did Jacob steal Esau's birthright? By pretending to be him. So, when the opportunity presented itself, Edomites would conspire to claim Israelite identity and steal back the birthright. This is how Herod, an Edomite, became King of the Jews and how the sects of Pharisees and Sadducees assumed control of the temple.

Though they are Abraham's descendants, they are not Israelites. When they were arguing with Christ, they said, "We have never been slaves" (John 8:33), which is true because the Edomites were never taken into Babylonian captivity with Judah or Assyrian captivity with Israel.

looking forward to hearing more from you about this subject.

 

[HeIsHere]

Thanks for the heads up. I looked at these things about 40 years ago. Amillennialism seemed baseless then and I've seen no reason to believe otherwise. If we are living in a millennial paradise, then something has gone desperately wrong and God has gone on strike.

Perhaps it is, I am not an amillennialist, but the most baseless system of Biblical interpretation is Dispensationalism, which has shown itself to produce deadly, unnecessary consequences.

Covenant theology is the correct system.

 

[ZNP]

I don't understand how someone can believe this silliness.

Because they have left the word of God and are void of understanding.

Proverbs 7:1 My son, keep my words, and lay up my commandments with thee.

The apostasy means to depart. There is a big debate over whether it refers to the rapture or whether it refers to the church departing from the Lord. The first use of this word refers to Jews departing from the words of Moses. So I'm not going to even bother with whether or not we are talking about the rapture, the New Testament clearly talks about God's people departing from His word and His commandments.

2 Keep my commandments, and live; and my law as the apple of thine eye.

One of the biggest debates today is over "works salvation". So let's address this. On the one hand there is absolutely nothing you can do to save yourself from sin. You have sinned, you are a debtor to sin, and you cannot pay off that debt, hence you are a slave to sin. Jesus paid the full price when He died on the cross and poured out His blood for you. The only way to be saved from sin is to receive Jesus' redemption, let the Lord's blood pay the price for your sin. To do that you must confess your sins and receive the salvation that Jesus wrought as a free gift of grace.

That said the New Testament commands us to "believe and be baptized". It isn't a suggestion, it is a command. You are not saved from sin by being baptized. According to the New Testament baptism is the testimony of a heart that is right with God. If you pray to the Lord and get saved you can tell your friends in the world and they will say "Cool". You can talk about the Lord's love, and peace and forgiveness and everyone will be fine with that. Not much different from someone telling them about how Yoga helps them or Transcendental Meditation or LSD. But, if you go and get baptized after believing watch their faces drop. "Why would you go and do that?" Finding God and being spiritual are fully acceptable in the world, but being baptized, no that is a testimony that you are leaving the world and following Jesus. That is not acceptable.

That was my testimony. I did not see any reason why I needed to be baptized, as far as I was concerned I was saved. However, they showed me in the word of God where we are told to believe and then be baptized (I had been christened as a child). My thought was "If Jesus says we need to do this fine, I'll do it". That obedience begins a new process of salvation, not from sin, but the salvation of your soul. We are rebellious, we are all doing what is right in our own eyes. To declare that Jesus is Lord is one thing, to actually do what He says, well that is proof that He is Lord of your life. This is why Philippians says to "work out your own salvation with fear and trembling". He isn't talking about salvation from sin, he is talking about the salvation of your rebellious soul.

3 Bind them upon thy fingers, write them upon the table of thine heart.

This is. a reference to the New Covenant that Ezekiel talks about where God will write His word on our heart. An engagement ring is "bound on your finger". When you bind the word to your actions then to God it is comparable to wearing an engagement ring. Anyone can say they love the Lord, but the Lord said "if you love Me why don't you do the things that I command?"

4 Say unto wisdom, Thou art my sister; and call understanding thy kinswoman:

Think of all the jokes about how no one can understand women. No one is going to understand the whole Bible from day one. Rather you get to know the Bible, think of it as a relationship where you get to know a close relative who is a woman.

5 That they may keep thee from the strange woman, from the stranger which flattereth with her words.

As a rule the women I am related to are more diplomatic and considerate of others feelings than I am. But they don't flatter with their words. They may show interest, they may appreciate certain things, but if there is something they don't like they will let you know. So this works equally well for a Pastor. A pastor should be more diplomatic, more considerate, more circumspect with his words than what you typically see in the world. No coarse jesting, no corrupt speech, etc. However, they aren't supposed to flatter you, that would be strange.

6 For at the window of my house I looked through my casement,

The church is the house of God, it is also the family of God. We don't have a thousand people living in one house as a family, that would be strange. The largest family I ever knew had sixteen children, but even so by the time the youngest was born (my friend) some of his oldest brothers and sisters had already gotten married and had kids of their own, so even then you didn't have all of them living under one roof. If the church you meet with is not like a family then something is strange. If you go to church and half the people are strangers then something is very strange about that church.

7 And beheld among the simple ones, I discerned among the youths, a young man void of understanding,

The reason people are in the apostasy is because they are void of understanding. They may quote Bible verses, but they are void of understanding the harm of being in that assembly. If you are in the apostasy, I don't mean that some of the people in the congregation are sinners, that is the church as the hospital. I mean that you are in a church that is leaving the word of God, a church that does not obey the commandments of God. They pick and choose what they will keep. I'm not talking about legalistic. For example, one rule in the New Testament is that the Pastor is the husband of one wife. If they ignore that and say it is out of date or sexist then they have departed from the word of God. They do that because they are void of understanding. The church is composed of men and women, hence the leader of the church needs to be both man and woman, to get that you need a pastor who is married. Second, we have a lot of damaged people who come into the church and the first evidence of damage is a damaged marriage. As a result we need the pastor to be an example to the flock showing them the way of salvation and one evidence that this is the case is a good marriage. No one knows the real situation of a man better than his wife and children, the best way to vet someone is to see that those relationships are good. This rule is not sexist, what is sexist is having a single person be the pastor whether male or female. This rule is not hypocritical, you aren't picking the guy who can speak the best, you are picking the guy who is the best example of a life lived for the Lord.

8 Passing through the street near her corner; and he went the way to her house,

Why do people who are void of understanding get attracted to the apostate churches? I find this expression strange "the way to her house". If I look out my window and see someone walking down the street or driving down the street I would not assume they were going "the way to a harlot's house". To me this sounds like there are big signs saying "this church, this way".

9 In the twilight, in the evening, in the black and dark night:

At this time it is very hard to see blemishes. The church should be a lighthouse, when you get into the meeting you should feel like you have stepped into the light. If you go to a church where you feel like you can hide and no one will see you that is a strange church. A church like this will be very comfortable for sinners. Think of being a sinner as being someone who has leprosy. You don't want to go into the light, it is exposing, but it is also the only way you will get well. We have to confess our sins and repent of them and the best way is to shine a bright light so that we can't ignore them.

 

[ZNP]

Because they have left the word of God and are void of understanding. (part 2)

Proverbs 7:10 And, behold, there met him a woman with the attire of an harlot, and subtil of heart.

If you are void of understanding you assume no one is out hunting for you, no one is lying in wait for you. This woman is like a salesman who works on commission. If you go to a church that seems more like a company that is looking at the monthly sales than like a family, that is a strange church. A harlot is a woman who sees her relationships with men as transactional, like a saleswoman, rather than as a wife.

11 (She is loud and stubborn; her feet abide not in her house:

If you think you "like this" then you are void of understanding. Who wants a wife that does not abide in the house? Loud and stubborn is strange for a woman because women grow up in a society where they are smaller and weaker than men. A normal woman will be thinking of risks, she will want to be with several friends because on her own she is much more likely to be taken advantage of.

12 Now is she without, now in the streets, and lieth in wait at every corner.)

If this is the way she is when she is single she won't change simply because she is married. She is what she is and she enjoys being who she is. The reason the man who is void of understanding gets involved with her is because it is easy. She caught him, not the other way around. The proper way to find a wife and to find a church is to pray about it and to be led by the Lord. If there are big signs, billboards, neon lights, ads on TV, that is not being led by the Lord. That is someone who lieth in wait for you.

13 So she caught him, and kissed him, and with an impudent face said unto him,

An impudent face is a major flashing red light, do not get involved with a woman who has an impudent face. In the same way do not get involved with a church that has an impudent face. This word means "not showing due respect for another person". What you must see in any church is that they are showing due respect to Jesus Christ. Jesus is the incarnated word of God, to show due respect to Jesus means you must also show due respect to the word of God. For example "our creed is 'the Bible only'". What they are saying is we believe whatever the Bible says. They may also say they believe the Bible is the inerrant word of God. An impudent church will says that the Bible is out of date, it is sexist, it is anachronistic, etc.

14 I have peace offerings with me; this day have I payed my vows.

This is a stunning thing to say. She is a harlot and an adulterous woman seducing a man to commit adultery with her. Yet at the same time she has "peace offerings with her and she has already paid her vows". The vows indicate thanksgiving. The apostasy is just like this, they give thanks that they have been forgiven of sin and now have peace with God and yet it has not impacted their living at all. They can live in sin with impunity. Imagine listening to an adulterous wife talk this way, you would thing "this is a strange woman, a strange marriage, let me slowly back away from this".

15 Therefore came I forth to meet thee, diligently to seek thy face, and I have found thee.

This is what cults do, it is called "drinking the kool aid". Because I am so happy and full of thanksgiving I want to share it with the world. But you have a married woman, dressed as a harlot, walking the city streets to snare men to have an adulterous affair with. Don't listen to their "happy talk" look at what they do, not what they say.

16 I have decked my bed with coverings of tapestry, with carved works, with fine linen of Egypt. 17 I have perfumed my bed with myrrh, aloes, and cinnamon.

Who does this? It sounds like the honeymoon suite in Las Vegas. The gospel in the apostasy is that you can be forgiven of sins, go to heaven and still live in sin and depravity. It does not pass the smell test.

18 Come, let us take our fill of love until the morning: let us solace ourselves with loves. 19 For the goodman is not at home, he is gone a long journey: 20 He hath taken a bag of money with him, and will come home at the day appointed.

Why do you think some people are so concerned about "when the rapture will be"? If you are living every day one with the Lord, walking according to the will of God and full of life and peace, does it really matter? However, if you are this adulterous harlot, you know your husband will come home one day with a bag of money and you certainly don't want to get caught in bed with another man on that day, then it matters a whole lot. This word exposes the whole lie. She knows that she does not want to be caught in the act of adultery when the Lord comes home, yet she pretends it is OK because she is forgiven. If you fall for that garbage then you are void of understanding.

 

[PennEd]

Since I gave a brief definition of the highly erroneous doctrine of amillennialism, I'll explain what Dispensationalism is, which I mostly adhere to:

I had no idea I was a "dispensationalist" until several yrs ago when some Amil heretic accused me of it. So I looked it up, and kept saying "yeah, I believe that, Yup, I believe that,..." and so on. So I'm very comfortable being called that, although there are nuances to it I'm not in total agreement with.
If you'd rather not read, I'll post a vid at the end saying basically the same:

Dispensationalism:
A dispensation is a way of ordering things—an administration, a system, or a management. In theology, a dispensation is the divine administration of a period of time; each dispensation is a divinely appointed age. Dispensationalism is a theological system that recognizes these ages ordained by God to order the affairs of the world. Dispensationalism has two primary distinctives: 1) a consistently literal interpretation of Scripture, especially Bible prophecy, and 2) a view of the uniqueness of Israel as separate from the Church in God’s program. Classical dispensationalism identifies seven dispensations in God’s plan for humanity.

Dispensationalists hold to a literal interpretation of the Bible as the best hermeneutic. The literal interpretation gives each word the meaning it would commonly have in everyday usage. Allowances are made for symbols, figures of speech, and types, of course. It is understood that even symbols and figurative sayings have literal meanings behind them. So, for example, when the Bible speaks of “a thousand years” in Revelation 20, dispensationalists interpret it as a literal period of 1,000 years (the dispensation of the Kingdom), since there is no compelling reason to interpret it otherwise.

There are at least two reasons why literalism is the best way to view Scripture. First, philosophically, the purpose of language itself requires that we interpret words literally. Language was given by God for the purpose of being able to communicate. Words are vessels of meaning. The second reason is biblical. Every prophecy about Jesus Christ in the Old Testament was fulfilled literally. Jesus’ birth, ministry, death, and resurrection all occurred exactly as the Old Testament predicted. The prophecies were literal. There is no non-literal fulfillment of messianic prophecies in the New Testament. This argues strongly for the literal method. If a literal interpretation is not used in studying the Scriptures, there is no objective standard by which to understand the Bible. Each person would be able to interpret the Bible as he saw fit. Biblical interpretation would devolve into “what this passage says to me” instead of “the Bible says.” Sadly, this is already the case in much of what is called Bible study today.

Dispensationalists believe that salvation has always been by grace through faith alone—in God in the Old Testament and specifically in God the Son in the New Testament. Dispensationalists hold that the Church has not replaced Israel in God’s program and that the Old Testament promises to Israel have not been transferred to the Church. Dispensationalism teaches that the promises God made to Israel in the Old Testament (for land, many descendants, and blessings) will be ultimately fulfilled in the 1000-year period spoken of in Revelation 20. Dispensationalists believe that, just as God is in this age focusing His attention on the Church, He will again in the future focus His attention on Israel (see Romans 9–11 and Daniel 9:24).

Dispensationalists understand the Bible to be organized into seven dispensations: Innocence (Genesis 1:1—3:7), Conscience (Genesis 3:8—8:22), Human Government (Genesis 9:1—11:32), Promise (Genesis 12:1—Exodus 19:25), Law (Exodus 20:1—Acts 2:4), Grace (Acts 2:4—Revelation 20:3), and the Millennial Kingdom (Revelation 20:4–6). Again, these dispensations are not paths to salvation, but manners in which God relates to man. Each dispensation includes a recognizable pattern of how God worked with people living in the dispensation. That pattern is 1) a responsibility, 2) a failure, 3) a judgment, and 4) grace to move on.

Dispensationalism, as a system, results in a premillennial interpretation of Christ’s second coming and usually a pretribulational interpretation of the rapture. To summarize, dispensationalism is a theological system that emphasizes the literal interpretation of Bible prophecy, recognizes a distinction between Israel and the Church, and organizes the Bible into different dispensations or administrations.

 

[ZNP]

Since I gave a brief definition of the highly erroneous doctrine of amillennialism, I'll explain what Dispensationalism is, which I mostly adhere to:

I had no idea I was a "dispensationalist" until several yrs ago when some Amil heretic accused me of it. So I looked it up, and kept saying "yeah, I believe that, Yup, I believe that,..." and so on. So I'm very comfortable being called that, although there are nuances to it I'm not in total agreement with.
If you'd rather not read, I'll post a vid at the end saying basically the same:

Dispensationalism:
A dispensation is a way of ordering things—an administration, a system, or a management. In theology, a dispensation is the divine administration of a period of time; each dispensation is a divinely appointed age. Dispensationalism is a theological system that recognizes these ages ordained by God to order the affairs of the world. Dispensationalism has two primary distinctives: 1) a consistently literal interpretation of Scripture, especially Bible prophecy, and 2) a view of the uniqueness of Israel as separate from the Church in God’s program. Classical dispensationalism identifies seven dispensations in God’s plan for humanity.

Dispensationalists hold to a literal interpretation of the Bible as the best hermeneutic. The literal interpretation gives each word the meaning it would commonly have in everyday usage. Allowances are made for symbols, figures of speech, and types, of course. It is understood that even symbols and figurative sayings have literal meanings behind them. So, for example, when the Bible speaks of “a thousand years” in Revelation 20, dispensationalists interpret it as a literal period of 1,000 years (the dispensation of the Kingdom), since there is no compelling reason to interpret it otherwise.

There are at least two reasons why literalism is the best way to view Scripture. First, philosophically, the purpose of language itself requires that we interpret words literally. Language was given by God for the purpose of being able to communicate. Words are vessels of meaning. The second reason is biblical. Every prophecy about Jesus Christ in the Old Testament was fulfilled literally. Jesus’ birth, ministry, death, and resurrection all occurred exactly as the Old Testament predicted. The prophecies were literal. There is no non-literal fulfillment of messianic prophecies in the New Testament. This argues strongly for the literal method. If a literal interpretation is not used in studying the Scriptures, there is no objective standard by which to understand the Bible. Each person would be able to interpret the Bible as he saw fit. Biblical interpretation would devolve into “what this passage says to me” instead of “the Bible says.” Sadly, this is already the case in much of what is called Bible study today.

Dispensationalists believe that salvation has always been by grace through faith alone—in God in the Old Testament and specifically in God the Son in the New Testament. Dispensationalists hold that the Church has not replaced Israel in God’s program and that the Old Testament promises to Israel have not been transferred to the Church. Dispensationalism teaches that the promises God made to Israel in the Old Testament (for land, many descendants, and blessings) will be ultimately fulfilled in the 1000-year period spoken of in Revelation 20. Dispensationalists believe that, just as God is in this age focusing His attention on the Church, He will again in the future focus His attention on Israel (see Romans 9–11 and Daniel 9:24).

Dispensationalists understand the Bible to be organized into seven dispensations: Innocence (Genesis 1:1—3:7), Conscience (Genesis 3:8—8:22), Human Government (Genesis 9:1—11:32), Promise (Genesis 12:1—Exodus 19:25), Law (Exodus 20:1—Acts 2:4), Grace (Acts 2:4—Revelation 20:3), and the Millennial Kingdom (Revelation 20:4–6). Again, these dispensations are not paths to salvation, but manners in which God relates to man. Each dispensation includes a recognizable pattern of how God worked with people living in the dispensation. That pattern is 1) a responsibility, 2) a failure, 3) a judgment, and 4) grace to move on.

Dispensationalism, as a system, results in a premillennial interpretation of Christ’s second coming and usually a pretribulational interpretation of the rapture. To summarize, dispensationalism is a theological system that emphasizes the literal interpretation of Bible prophecy, recognizes a distinction between Israel and the Church, and organizes the Bible into different dispensations or administrations.

I am familiar with dispensationalism, I was raised under the teaching of Watchman Nee who based his theology on Darby. I also agree with the vast majority of what they agree with only I disagree with being labeled under any label. My creed is the word of God. I think that Darby and Nee were very good Bible teachers. But I also agree they both had issues and both were not infallible. As a result I simply base my understanding on the word of God on the word of God. On the one hand I agree with most of what Watchman Nee taught, but on the other I do have some disagreements and I believe if he were alive today he might agree with me. I like to think that Nee was standing on the shoulders of Darby and that I am standing on the shoulders of Nee. I have better tools than he had and his ministry was cut off shortly after WW2 so imagine all the things he never saw when he was speaking his ministry.

 

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For anyone who might be interested this is a really interesting and informative conversation between Sam and Israeli journalist,
Haviv Rettig Gur
I have to agree with Sam when he says that if both Palestine and Israel were to lay down their arms, there would be peace but if only Israel lay down their arms, there wouldn't be a single Jew left alive.

According to Haviv, apparently somehow Israel managed to engineer a fake intelligence meeting in Iran and then bomb it
Been looking for sources on this but haven't found anything. Seems almost cartoonish that Iran would fall for that

 

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For anyone who might be interested this is a really interesting and informative conversation between Sam and Israeli journalist,
Haviv Rettig Gur
I have to agree with Sam when he says that if both Palestine and Israel were to lay down their arms, there would be peace but if only Israel lay down their arms, there wouldn't be a single Jew left alive.

According to Haviv, apparently somehow Israel managed to engineer a fake intelligence meeting in Iran and then bomb it
Been looking for sources on this but haven't found anything. Seems almost cartoonish that Iran would fall for that

What about Iran, Hezbollah and Houthis? Wouldn't they also have to lay down their arms? How can Israel lay down their arms when they are being attacked from those other people?

 

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Iran has a right to defend itself.

Nah, 14th century death cults don't get to have nukes.