*THE BEWITCHING HOUR?*

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ocean said:
That is not what you are actually asking. I'm not giving credence to your wild tales.
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that is exactly what I am asking, did they or did they not trample against them? did they or did they not stand in his authority, you can take my tales out of the equation and just answer this question, I don't care if you believe me or not that is fine but I am asking this to prove a point.

And anyways the reason I testify is not to brag but it is for the benifet of anyone reading our posts, many are going through spiritual battles as we speak and they need to know we are overcomers and that we have the authority in Christ given to us by himself they need to eb encouraged and strengthened

Again just disregard my testimonies and answer the question
 
The one that really trips deliverance ministry up is that God sent Paul a demon and would not deliver him,
"I have received such wonderful revelations from God. So to keep me from becoming proud, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger from Satan to torment me and keep me from becoming proud." (2 Corinthians 12:7)

The reason God refused to deliver Paul is Pride is most dangerous Sin, it led to Satan's fall (Ezekiel 28, Isaiah 14:10-14). It was better for the Apostle to have the Thorn in the Flesh than to become conceited like the devil.
 
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SirSolaScriptura said:
The one that really trips deliverance ministry up is that God sent Paul a demon and would not deliver him,
"I have received such wonderful revelations from God. So to keep me from becoming proud, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger from Satan to torment me and keep me from becoming proud." (2 Corinthians 12:7)

The reason God refused to deliver Paul is Pride is most dangerous Sin, it led to Satan's fall (Ezekiel 28, Isaiah 14:10-14). It was better for the Apostle to have the Thorn in the Flesh than to become conceited like the devil.
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So do you not think he delivers us from demons? what do we do if we are attacked? what does the scriptures say about that?
 
Blain said:
Yes we are not to seek out such things but a wise old saying says the devil does not come against you unless your a threat to him. as Christians we are in constant spiritual warfare even as we debate on here the key is to be prepared to have the armour of God and to stand in the authority of Christ so that when we are attacked we will be ready.

the name Jesus has absolute power over them not all are called to battle some are not called to be in such a deep level of warfare but for those who are they fight a war unseen by the human eyes and being delivered by the name of Jesus sometimes is the only way to win against them as some demons are just that strong.

have you ever heard of shadow people or have you ever encountered them? these are some fo the stronger ones and only by his name was I able to win against them
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I know all about astral projections, Watchers, strongholds, thrones, nephilim (and their return, also called Anakim), and etc. I am acquainted with it all and frankly.. to me knowing it has adding nothing. Does it help you define what phenomenon you may see and confront, sure.. but being focused on it violates the Scriptures (Hebrews 12:2, Philippians 3:8) and I have seen more Christians get OCD, get paranoid, lose sense, get mentally ill, and become opressed by obessessing over demonology than any good that has come from it.
 
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SirSolaScriptura said:
I know all about astral projections, Watchers, strongholds, thrones, nephilim (and their return, also called Anakim), and etc. I am acquainted with it all and frankly.. to me knowing it has adding nothing. Does it help you define what phenomenon you may see and confront, sure.. but being focused on it violates the Scriptures (Hebrews 12:2, Philippians 3:8) and I have seen more Christians get OCD, get paranoid, lose sense, get mentally ill, and become opressed by obessessing over demonology than any good that has come from it.
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Yes obsessing over it is unbiblixal but we are discussing it not obsessing over it. and also not all battles involve demons persay some spiritual warfare is also against illness or against other people being used by the enemy
It is wise to not seek out such things because there are some doors you don't want to open
 
Blain said:
Remember my brothers and sisters Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil, for You are with me; Your rod and Your staff, they comfort me. Psalm 118:6
No matter what rises against you remember he is with you and that no evil can stand against you believe it and it shall be so
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Psalm 23 verse 4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for Thou art with me; Thy rod and Thy staff they comfort me.
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And if anyone is battling a battle right now if you are not able to fight it yourself have two or three trusted believers to pray with and over you some battles are not meant to fight alone
 
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Blain said:
you know my sister is a wiccan and she does her work around 12 am or three am so there seems to be something about that time that has some sort of relevance to it
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Talk two extremes between your sister and how strong you are in your personal walk with God.
 
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Edith said:
Dear we who believe in the gifts of the Spirit, we live by it and it is great empowerment for ministry. However some people carry out fake manifestation justt to attract crowds thus we need discernment.
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Amen and very well said!

I love this thread because I am seeing many viewpoints introduced that are very concerning for the Churches and the Doctrines involved.
 
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Blain said:
Yes obsessing over it is unbiblixal but we are discussing it not obsessing over it. and also not all battles involve demons persay some spiritual warfare is also against illness or against other people being used by the enemy
It is wise to not seek out such things because there are some doors you don't want to open
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I am merely cautioning people about how easy it is to fall into bondage over this, that I have watched people with mild interest or doing some deliverance fall into major bondage of obsession.

Another way to think of it, the demons and the devil would love nothing better than to make a Christian afraid and obsessed with them; worrying endlessly about did they "open a door" or is a keychain they got in another country got a link to a demon or is cursed.
 
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lrs68 said:
Talk two extremes between your sister and how strong you are in your personal walk with God.
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Well she and I are two sides of the same coin she is the yin to my yang we just are on opposite sides of the battle but because of how we perfect each others weaknesses and share the same strengths I believe she will one day come to Christ
 
Blain said:
Well she and I are two sides of the same coin she is the yin to my yang we just are on opposite sides of the battle but because of how we perfect each others weaknesses and share the same strengths I believe she will one day come to Christ
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I wondered if you two are alike but sadly you follow different sources.
 
lrs68 said:
I wondered if you two are alike but sadly you follow different sources.
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Yes sadly this is true but even so I trust God has a plan in mind for her. of course I have had to do battle with her before, she told me she was going to curse me and that her(friends) were going to come visit me and I told her you can do what will you send a curse and I will show you the real thing
 
lrs68 said:
Amen and very well said!

I love this thread because I am seeing many viewpoints introduced that are very concerning for the Churches and the Doctrines involved.
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I think it is a good thread as well as it makes one think upon the actual war we are in, and seeing different view points can be useful in ones growth, my discussion with @ocean can show something as well what that is is for the viewer to decide but one thing I will stand by is to have faith stand strong in Christ and no evil can overcome you
 
Blain said:
Yes sadly this is true but even so I trust God has a plan in mind for her. of course I have had to do battle with her before, she told me she was going to curse me and that her(friends) were going to come visit me and I told her you can do what will you send a curse and I will show you the real thing
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Amen!

Be like the Prophet and challenge the followers of baal to see whose God is real and whose is dead.
 
Blain said:
I think it is a good thread as well as it makes one think upon the actual war we are in, and seeing different view points can be useful in ones growth, my discussion with @ocean can show something as well what that is is for the viewer to decide but one thing I will stand by is to have faith stand strong in Christ and no evil can overcome you
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Yes, I am following all the interactions and introducing of the different things everyone is viewing as possible bewitching categories.
 
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