If someone knowingly chooses to believe false doctrine,
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1Co 15:19
If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
That's amusing. You agreed with @Intersection and then cited this verse which contradicts you, and then @Intersection responds by reposting your list of texts, including this one that contradicts him.
If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
That's amusing. You agreed with @Intersection and then cited this verse which contradicts you, and then @Intersection responds by reposting your list of texts, including this one that contradicts him.
The only way that someone forms a belief that something is true is if something indicates to them that it is true, otherwise their belief would be uncaused. Evidence is an indication that something is true. Someone. can have faith by choosing to focus on and give more weight to the good reasons that they had for believing that something is true in spite of things looking like they might not be true, but if someone became convinced that their belief was false, then they would not continue to believe it.
In Proverbs 4:2, it defines sound doctrine as not forsaking the Torah, so while there are people who have forsaken the Torah who are knowingly believe what the Bible says is not sound doctrine, they have nevertheless been convinced that it is sound doctrine.
In Proverbs 4:2, it defines sound doctrine as not forsaking the Torah, so while there are people who have forsaken the Torah who are knowingly believe what the Bible says is not sound doctrine, they have nevertheless been convinced that it is sound doctrine.
The key word is "knowingly." I don't know how anyone except God could know if someone is "knowingly" choosing to believe false doctrine. That would require one to be a mind reader, or to have supernatural knowledge; which is getting into shaky territory. But I'd have to say if someone does fit into that category, I don't see how they could know the true Christ or the Holy Spirit.
And yet you will not be specific. 
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You are the one who refused to give me a specific correct doctrine you wish to discuss.
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You did not even respond, and then assert it was my refusal.
God’s way is the way to know Him and Jesus by being in His likeness through experiencing being a doer of His character traits, which is the way to eternal life (John 17:3). For example, in Genesis 18:19, God knew Abraham that he would teach his children and those of his household to walk in God’s way by being a doer of righteousness and justice that the Lord might bring to him all that He has promised. An arrow flies true when it hits its mark, our mark is to walk in God’s way, and the Torah is truth (Psalms 119:142) because it is His instructions for how to walk in God’s way (1 Kings 2:1-3) while sin is missing the mark, sin is what is contrary to God’s way, and sin is the transgression of the Torah (1 John 3:4). The Spirit has the role of leading us in truth (John 16:13) and of leading us to obey the Torah (Ezekiel 36:26-27) because the character traits of God are the fruits of the Spirit. The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact likeness of His character (Hebrews 1:3), which he expressed through his works by setting a sinless example for us to follow of how to walk in obedience to the Torah, so he is the way, the truth, and the life, and the way to know the Father (John 14:6-12). In John 8:31-36, it is the transgression of the Torah that puts us into bondage while the truth sets us free.
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