Singlehood and Chastity

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one of the big reasons many men and sometimes Christian men don't get in to relationship is when you tell them you will be chase till marriage and they leave. this has been my issue since2018 when I decided to rededicate my life to God. I don't regret it. However I am scared when I am being approached for a relationship and I'm 37
 
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one of the big reasons many men and sometimes Christian men don't get in to relationship is when you tell them you will be chase till marriage and they leave. this has been my issue since2018 when I decided to rededicate my life to God. I don't regret it. However I am scared when I am being approached for a relationship and I'm 37
Ok if I'm understanding what you said correctly: you're worried / frustrated that men will pass you over because you're comitted to obeying God's commands about keeping sex within marriage.

Well there's a lot of men out there who will say they follow Jesus, but then you find out they aren't interested in actually obeying him. Personally, I find that to be concerning as then the question arises well what other things that God said is he not going to bother obeying.

Yeah good men seem in short supply. But there is a point at which you're better off single than with a man like that (since I see you're from a much different culture, the point at which you're better off single may be much different than my point so I'll leave that between you and God to determine)
 

TabinRivCA

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one of the big reasons many men and sometimes Christian men don't get in to relationship is when you tell them you will be chase till marriage and they leave. this has been my issue since2018 when I decided to rededicate my life to God. I don't regret it. However I am scared when I am being approached for a relationship and I'm 37
This is simple, if a 'Christian' man wants sex before marriage, drop it like it's hot. Don't make it complicated, there 'are good men out there. I know 2 couples who met on Christian Mingle and have got married and are doing good. They pray and are very family orientated. If you have doubts or fear that won't help. God bless and remember God's promises are yes and amen🙏😍
 

Lynx

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one of the big reasons many men and sometimes Christian men don't get in to relationship is when you tell them you will be chase till marriage and they leave. this has been my issue since2018 when I decided to rededicate my life to God. I don't regret it. However I am scared when I am being approached for a relationship and I'm 37
First, howdy and welcome to the forum.

Second, if they leave, GOOD! You found out you don't want that man and you did it without spending a lot of time dating him. Count that as a bullet dodged.

Third, I'm not clear on what the scared part is. Are you worried that you will be single your whole life, or does it make you nervous when a man asks you out?
 

Edith

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Ok if I'm understanding what you said correctly: you're worried / frustrated that men will pass you over because you're comitted to obeying God's commands about keeping sex within marriage.

Well there's a lot of men out there who will say they follow Jesus, but then you find out they aren't interested in actually obeying him. Personally, I find that to be concerning as then the question arises well what other things that God said is he not going to bother obeying.

Yeah good men seem in short supply. But there is a point at which you're better off single than with a man like that (since I see you're from a much different culture, the point at which you're better off single may be much different than my point so I'll leave that between you and God to determine)
oh yeah thank you my dear.
First, howdy and welcome to the forum.

Second, if they leave, GOOD! You found out you don't want that man and you did it without spending a lot of time dating him. Count that as a bullet dodged.

Third, I'm not clear on what the scared part is. Are you worried that you will be single your whole life, or does it make you nervous when a man asks you out?
thank You my dear. 🤣 bullet dodged is funny. I am nervous when a man asks me out.
 

Lynx

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I am nervous when a man asks me out.
Okay, seriously... If you get nervous, you probably think it's important. There are some things I pray I will never stop getting nervous about, because then I will think they are not important and I will not pay enough attention to doing them right.

But in this case... Well... It's really not important enough to get nervous about. Just take what comes and see what becomes of it. Maybe nothing, maybe you will find the love of your life, but whatever happens will happen. It's not worth the stress and high blood pressure to get nervous about it.
 

seoulsearch

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The real problem isn't that women want to be chaste before marriage, it's the ones who decide to be after.
We all know there could be a plethora of issues going on, but I often contemplate the complications of past sexual abuse, which is why I've written several threads on this topic in the past. I don't think the church has an idea how to prepare abuse survivors for marriage, and whatever methods are being used, it's obviously failing.

I have heard from many married Christians who find themselves in a situation like this:

Bill and Sara have waited until marriage, expecting to have a Godly and very exciting, fulfilling sex life that everyone says it will be because they've been obedient to the Lord.

Both Bill and Sara have been sexually abused in the past. Many sexual abuse survivors cope and react by going to extremes -- some will become addicted to sex, seeking out as much as they can; others will shun sexual contact, because they find it makes them feel dirty, used, and shameful.

Bill had learned to cope with his past abuse by seeking out pornography, but he's really trying to get away from it. He expects that now since he's married, he'll have a Godly sexual outlet and his addiction will fade away, because he's done what the Bible says. He knows it's "better to marry than to burn with passion," and so since he's now married, he thinks he'll finally get better.

Sara has coped with her sexual abuse by shunning all sexual contact, but since she's obediently waited until after marriage to Bill, she expects things will be different. She believes that since she is following God's will, she is going to be healed, and sex is going to be this amazing thing that everyone says it is because she is now someone's wife.

But the reality they find is that Bill eagerly seeks out time with Sara, but Sara discovers that she doesn't feel any different with Bill than she did with her abuser. She feels used, dirty, and ashamed, and she wishes Bill would just leave her alone altogether. Sexual contact with a husband doesn't feel any different than it did with her abuser, and is producing the same emotional response from her, no matter how loving or understanding Bill tries to be.

Needless to say, their marriage is not going well, and the only Christian advice they receive is, "Render what's due to your spouse in marriage," as the Bible says.


Now of course, this is just a very brief example. There could be a myriad of other variations and factors going on. But it's something I don't think a lot of people think about, then find themselves struggling with after they've said "I do."


Then the couple gets divorced, and are slammed with further condemnation because they "didn't have a Biblical divorce."

Well...

How exactly is Bill supposed to tell people, "Sara was raped as a child and now she wants nothing to do with sex," or how can Sara explain, "I had a lot of bad experiences growing up, and now I've found I have no interest in sex -- but I found that out AFTER I got married."

For one thing, it's no one's business. And no one should have to share their personal life with the entire church, let alone strangers in other churches. But EVERYONE will judge them anyway.

It's yet another one of my many frustrations with the church.

I think this is happening a lot more to people than any church is willing to admit, because sexual abuse is running rampant, and no one seems to know what to do about.

I sure don't have the answers but what frustrates me the most is that I think the majority of people wouldn't feel they could even talk about this with someone from the church, let alone try to get help (and there doesn't seem to be much help out there anyway.)
 

NightTwister

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#12
We all know there could be a plethora of issues going on, but I often contemplate the complications of past sexual abuse, which is why I've written several threads on this topic in the past. I don't think the church has an idea how to prepare abuse survivors for marriage, and whatever methods are being used, it's obviously failing.

I have heard from many married Christians who find themselves in a situation like this:

Bill and Sara have waited until marriage, expecting to have a Godly and very exciting, fulfilling sex life that everyone says it will be because they've been obedient to the Lord.

Both Bill and Sara have been sexually abused in the past. Many sexual abuse survivors cope and react by going to extremes -- some will become addicted to sex, seeking out as much as they can; others will shun sexual contact, because they find it makes them feel dirty, used, and shameful.

Bill had learned to cope with his past abuse by seeking out pornography, but he's really trying to get away from it. He expects that now since he's married, he'll have a Godly sexual outlet and his addiction will fade away, because he's done what the Bible says. He knows it's "better to marry than to burn with passion," and so since he's now married, he thinks he'll finally get better.

Sara has coped with her sexual abuse by shunning all sexual contact, but since she's obediently waited until after marriage to Bill, she expects things will be different. She believes that since she is following God's will, she is going to be healed, and sex is going to be this amazing thing that everyone says it is because she is now someone's wife.

But the reality they find is that Bill eagerly seeks out time with Sara, but Sara discovers that she doesn't feel any different with Bill than she did with her abuser. She feels used, dirty, and ashamed, and she wishes Bill would just leave her alone altogether. Sexual contact with a husband doesn't feel any different than it did with her abuser, and is producing the same emotional response from her, no matter how loving or understanding Bill tries to be.

Needless to say, their marriage is not going well, and the only Christian advice they receive is, "Render what's due to your spouse in marriage," as the Bible says.


Now of course, this is just a very brief example. There could be a myriad of other variations and factors going on. But it's something I don't think a lot of people think about, then find themselves struggling with after they've said "I do."


Then the couple gets divorced, and are slammed with further condemnation because they "didn't have a Biblical divorce."

Well...

How exactly is Bill supposed to tell people, "Sara was raped as a child and now she wants nothing to do with sex," or how can Sara explain, "I had a lot of bad experiences growing up, and now I've found I have no interest in sex -- but I found that out AFTER I got married."

For one thing, it's no one's business. And no one should have to share their personal life with the entire church, let alone strangers in other churches. But EVERYONE will judge them anyway.

It's yet another one of my many frustrations with the church.

I think this is happening a lot more to people than any church is willing to admit, because sexual abuse is running rampant, and no one seems to know what to do about.

I sure don't have the answers but what frustrates me the most is that I think the majority of people wouldn't feel they could even talk about this with someone from the church, let alone try to get help (and there doesn't seem to be much help out there anyway.)
I'm certain that this is often times the case in these situations. And you're right, most pastors/Christian counselors are not equipped to handle the depth and complexity of these types of problems. There are other options however without compromising Christian principles. Of course there's nothing wrong with having these problems, but there is something wrong about not doing everything possible to overcome them. Too many give up and say, "this is how I am and it's not going to change."
 

HeIsHere

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#13
We all know there could be a plethora of issues going on, but I often contemplate the complications of past sexual abuse, which is why I've written several threads on this topic in the past. I don't think the church has an idea how to prepare abuse survivors for marriage, and whatever methods are being used, it's obviously failing.

I have heard from many married Christians who find themselves in a situation like this:

Bill and Sara have waited until marriage, expecting to have a Godly and very exciting, fulfilling sex life that everyone says it will be because they've been obedient to the Lord.

Both Bill and Sara have been sexually abused in the past. Many sexual abuse survivors cope and react by going to extremes -- some will become addicted to sex, seeking out as much as they can; others will shun sexual contact, because they find it makes them feel dirty, used, and shameful.

Bill had learned to cope with his past abuse by seeking out pornography, but he's really trying to get away from it. He expects that now since he's married, he'll have a Godly sexual outlet and his addiction will fade away, because he's done what the Bible says. He knows it's "better to marry than to burn with passion," and so since he's now married, he thinks he'll finally get better.

Sara has coped with her sexual abuse by shunning all sexual contact, but since she's obediently waited until after marriage to Bill, she expects things will be different. She believes that since she is following God's will, she is going to be healed, and sex is going to be this amazing thing that everyone says it is because she is now someone's wife.

But the reality they find is that Bill eagerly seeks out time with Sara, but Sara discovers that she doesn't feel any different with Bill than she did with her abuser. She feels used, dirty, and ashamed, and she wishes Bill would just leave her alone altogether. Sexual contact with a husband doesn't feel any different than it did with her abuser, and is producing the same emotional response from her, no matter how loving or understanding Bill tries to be.

Needless to say, their marriage is not going well, and the only Christian advice they receive is, "Render what's due to your spouse in marriage," as the Bible says.


Now of course, this is just a very brief example. There could be a myriad of other variations and factors going on. But it's something I don't think a lot of people think about, then find themselves struggling with after they've said "I do."


Then the couple gets divorced, and are slammed with further condemnation because they "didn't have a Biblical divorce."

Well...

How exactly is Bill supposed to tell people, "Sara was raped as a child and now she wants nothing to do with sex," or how can Sara explain, "I had a lot of bad experiences growing up, and now I've found I have no interest in sex -- but I found that out AFTER I got married."

For one thing, it's no one's business. And no one should have to share their personal life with the entire church, let alone strangers in other churches. But EVERYONE will judge them anyway.

It's yet another one of my many frustrations with the church.

I think this is happening a lot more to people than any church is willing to admit, because sexual abuse is running rampant, and no one seems to know what to do about.

I sure don't have the answers but what frustrates me the most is that I think the majority of people wouldn't feel they could even talk about this with someone from the church, let alone try to get help (and there doesn't seem to be much help out there anyway.)
That is very sad, people are complicated and past histories affect people differently.

This is a ridiculous response, sorry but true.
"Render what's due to your spouse in marriage," as the Bible says.


Seems to me the statement in the post was an underhanded way to blame women as if men have no responsibility in the situation.
 
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We all know there could be a plethora of issues going on, but I often contemplate the complications of past sexual abuse, which is why I've written several threads on this topic in the past. I don't think the church has an idea how to prepare abuse survivors for marriage, and whatever methods are being used, it's obviously failing.

I have heard from many married Christians who find themselves in a situation like this:

Bill and Sara have waited until marriage, expecting to have a Godly and very exciting, fulfilling sex life that everyone says it will be because they've been obedient to the Lord.

Both Bill and Sara have been sexually abused in the past. Many sexual abuse survivors cope and react by going to extremes -- some will become addicted to sex, seeking out as much as they can; others will shun sexual contact, because they find it makes them feel dirty, used, and shameful.

Bill had learned to cope with his past abuse by seeking out pornography, but he's really trying to get away from it. He expects that now since he's married, he'll have a Godly sexual outlet and his addiction will fade away, because he's done what the Bible says. He knows it's "better to marry than to burn with passion," and so since he's now married, he thinks he'll finally get better.

Sara has coped with her sexual abuse by shunning all sexual contact, but since she's obediently waited until after marriage to Bill, she expects things will be different. She believes that since she is following God's will, she is going to be healed, and sex is going to be this amazing thing that everyone says it is because she is now someone's wife.

But the reality they find is that Bill eagerly seeks out time with Sara, but Sara discovers that she doesn't feel any different with Bill than she did with her abuser. She feels used, dirty, and ashamed, and she wishes Bill would just leave her alone altogether. Sexual contact with a husband doesn't feel any different than it did with her abuser, and is producing the same emotional response from her, no matter how loving or understanding Bill tries to be.

Needless to say, their marriage is not going well, and the only Christian advice they receive is, "Render what's due to your spouse in marriage," as the Bible says.


Now of course, this is just a very brief example. There could be a myriad of other variations and factors going on. But it's something I don't think a lot of people think about, then find themselves struggling with after they've said "I do."


Then the couple gets divorced, and are slammed with further condemnation because they "didn't have a Biblical divorce."

Well...

How exactly is Bill supposed to tell people, "Sara was raped as a child and now she wants nothing to do with sex," or how can Sara explain, "I had a lot of bad experiences growing up, and now I've found I have no interest in sex -- but I found that out AFTER I got married."

For one thing, it's no one's business. And no one should have to share their personal life with the entire church, let alone strangers in other churches. But EVERYONE will judge them anyway.

It's yet another one of my many frustrations with the church.

I think this is happening a lot more to people than any church is willing to admit, because sexual abuse is running rampant, and no one seems to know what to do about.

I sure don't have the answers but what frustrates me the most is that I think the majority of people wouldn't feel they could even talk about this with someone from the church, let alone try to get help (and there doesn't seem to be much help out there anyway.)
Thank you dear for sharing this wonderful story with us. it's a pathetic situation I pray Bill and Sara receive the healing they need and have a wonderful time together. My fear is different I fear it will not go well, they may want sex like many others and I will end up being heart broken especially because I will not yield to it.
 

seoulsearch

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I'm certain that this is often times the case in these situations. And you're right, most pastors/Christian counselors are not equipped to handle the depth and complexity of these types of problems. There are other options however without compromising Christian principles. Of course there's nothing wrong with having these problems, but there is something wrong about not doing everything possible to overcome them. Too many give up and say, "this is how I am and it's not going to change."
I completely agree.

I know there is a multitude of factors involved, and I truly feel sorry for people who marry and then find out they're forever stuck with someone who says, "No, and that's just how it's going to be because I say so," with no willingness to even try to talk it out or make some sort of compromise.

Some people rag on us long-time singles for not being married or treating marriage like it's the easiest thing to obtain (like picking out a bag of chips and throwing it in your shopping cart,) but I know for myself, one of the reasons I'm so cautious is because I've heard way too many tales of marriages gone every which way other than how people expected them to.

And then it's too late, because "'til death do us part."

I genuinely feel sad over and pray for these people.
 

seoulsearch

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Thank you dear for sharing this wonderful story with us. it's a pathetic situation I pray Bill and Sara receive the healing they need and have a wonderful time together. My fear is different I fear it will not go well, they may want sex like many others and I will end up being heart broken especially because I will not yield to it.
I applaud you for living out your faith and principles.

It's not easy, that's for sure!!!

Hang in there, and I hope you'll continue to post and get to know people in this community.

There are many of us in the same situation -- both women and some GREAT men out there -- and we try very hard to support each other and cheer each other on!

A warm welcome to the CC Singles Forum, Edith! 💗
 
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Okay, seriously... If you get nervous, you probably think it's important. There are some things I pray I will never stop getting nervous about, because then I will think they are not important and I will not pay enough attention to doing them right.

But in this case... Well... It's really not important enough to get nervous about. Just take what comes and see what becomes of it. Maybe nothing, maybe you will find the love of your life, but whatever happens will happen. It's not worth the stress and high blood pressure to get nervous about it.
thank you May God helps me.
 
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I applaud you for living out your faith and principles.

It's not easy, that's for sure!!!

Hang in there, and I hope you'll continue to post and get to know people in this community.

There are many of us in the same situation -- both women and some GREAT men out there -- and we try very hard to support each other and cheer each other on!

A warm welcome to the CC Singles Forum, Edith! 💗
Thank you very much
 

NightTwister

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I completely agree.

I know there is a multitude of factors involved, and I truly feel sorry for people who marry and then find out they're forever stuck with someone who says, "No, and that's just how it's going to be because I say so," with no willingness to even try to talk it out or make some sort of compromise.

Some people rag on us long-time singles for not being married or treating marriage like it's the easiest thing to obtain (like picking out a bag of chips and throwing it in your shopping cart,) but I know for myself, one of the reasons I'm so cautious is because I've heard way too many tales of marriages gone every which way other than how people expected them to.

And then it's too late, because "'til death do us part."

I genuinely feel sad over and pray for these people.
If I had been as cautious, I likely wouldn't have 4 failed marriages. I'm what's called a "rescuer", and it took me a really long time to realize people can't and don't really want to be rescued. They mostly want to be enabled.
 

HeIsHere

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If I had been as cautious, I likely wouldn't have 4 failed marriages. I'm what's called a "rescuer", and it took me a really long time to realize people can't and don't really want to be rescued. They mostly want to be enabled.
Generally speaking the rescuer is just as co-dependent and also an enabler.