Becomes Trump a dictator?

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Mar 19, 2011
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...and to add to that ... do you mean that the Dems are acting more like dictators and fascists by limiting speech or is it Trump who is allowing free speech?
That's funny because I don't remember losing any free speech. I can say whatever I want
 
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I dont know how you americans see this. In europe at seems that Trump and Musk doing everything for to fight against democracy and freedom to encrease their own Power and influence.
How so, when it was leftist agenda that got free speech taken away in the UK as far as I know. From what I've seen trump wants to uphold the constitution unlike kamala, whom was supporting and planning to enforce harmful things.
 

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My Free speech has not been limited.
It's actually Republicans who are trying to limit free speech.
"My" free speech? Since when do we measure censorship by whether or not Dude is censored? The people who wanted to raise questions about the vaccine, their speech was censored. The people who wanted to raise questions about the pandemic shutting down churches their speech was censored. The people who wanted questions answered about the origin of Covid19 their speech was censored.

During the Nazi regime in Germany Hitler's speech was not censored, that is no measure of whether or not there was free speech.
 
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I dont know how you americans see this. In europe at seems that Trump and Musk doing everything for to fight against democracy and freedom to encrease their own Power and influence.
Europe is collapsing cuz of the left, and it seems the ones causing this are spreading anti trump propaganda, as trump is going against the elite agenda.
 
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"My" free speech? Since when do we measure censorship by whether or not Dude is censored? The people who wanted to raise questions about the vaccine, their speech was censored. The people who wanted to raise questions about the pandemic shutting down churches their speech was censored. The people who wanted questions answered about the origin of Covid19 their speech was censored.

During the Nazi regime in Germany Hitler's speech was not censored, that is no measure of whether or not there was free speech.
Exactly. They cause harm to the people, then use it as an excuse to take away more rights, pretending like it's for our own protection.
 
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How so, when it was leftist agenda that got free speech taken away in the UK as far as I know. From what I've seen trump wants to uphold the constitution unlike kamala, whom was supporting and planning to enforce harmful things.
Where are the Constitution does it say a president can defy a supreme Court ruling?
 

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Where are the Constitution does it say a president can defy a supreme Court ruling?
Once again Dude's interpretation of the current events is full of holes.

1. Trump has not defied the order, the order was to "facilitate the return". He is in El Salvador, the President of El Salvador is not subject to the US Supreme court rulings and he has stated matter of fact he will not return him.

So then is Trump working behind the scenes to facilitate the return? Maybe, maybe not. But one week is way too soon to make that conclusion. History will give us the final determination, but at this point the most that can be said is that Trump might be "slow walking" the order. There was no time limit on the order, so even if it does turn out that he is slow walking, as long as he does facilitate the return then that is not a violation.

2. What does the word "facilitate" mean? Send in the military? No. Impose sanctions on El Salvador if he is not returned? No. Maybe it means provide an airplane when the President agrees to return him.

In conclusion it is way too early to be condemning President Trump over his response to this ruling and Dude has simply reenforced the impression that he is totally biased against the president and not someone to be taken seriously.

3. Consider what the President of El Salvador said "How can I smuggle a terrorist into the United States". This is the problem with the Supreme court's ruling, they admit that the Executive branch has the authority to designate who the terrorists are. So making that designation is not a violation of the Supreme Court's order and Trump can "facilitate" all he want by providing an airplane but the fact will remain that the President of El Salvador will be guilty of smuggling a terrorist into the US.
 
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Once again Dude's interpretation of the current events is full of holes.

1. Trump has not defied the order, the order was to "facilitate the return". He is in El Salvador, the President of El Salvador is not subject to the US Supreme court rulings and he has stated matter of fact he will not return him.

So then is Trump working behind the scenes to facilitate the return? Maybe, maybe not. But one week is way too soon to make that conclusion. History will give us the final determination, but at this point the most that can be said is that Trump might be "slow walking" the order. There was no time limit on the order, so even if it does turn out that he is slow walking, as long as he does facilitate the return then that is not a violation.

2. What does the word "facilitate" mean? Send in the military? No. Impose sanctions on El Salvador if he is not returned? No. Maybe it means provide an airplane when the President agrees to return him.

In conclusion it is way too early to be condemning President Trump over his response to this ruling and Dude has simply reenforced the impression that he is totally biased against the president and not someone to be taken seriously.
There's false propaganda on both sides, the left and right, however, Trump at least has the best interest of the country in his actions, kamala was going to setup America for a harsh reality that no one wants to face. The government conspiracy rabbit holes go very deep. I used to doubt everything conspiracy theory I used to hear thinking people were idiots for believing them. Now I've come to realize, most of it isn't as far fetched as I assumed it was.
 

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Facilitate means to make something easier. It does not mean to do it. Trump does not have the authority to go into El Salvador and seize this man and bring him back to the US for trial. You could define facilitate as "ask the President of El Salvador to return the man and you will provide the airplane". That would make it easier for him to be returned. The fact that the president of El Salvador refuses is not up to the President of the US or up to the Supreme Court.
 
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There's false propaganda on both sides, the left and right, however, Trump at least has the best interest of the country in his actions, kamala was going to setup America for a harsh reality that no one wants to face. The government conspiracy rabbit holes go very deep. I used to doubt everything conspiracy theory I used to hear thinking people were idiots for believing them. Now I've come to realize, most of it isn't as far fetched as I assumed it was.
How was it in America's best interest to deliberately tank the economy?
 

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There's false propaganda on both sides, the left and right, however, Trump at least has the best interest of the country in his actions, kamala was going to setup America for a harsh reality that no one wants to face. The government conspiracy rabbit holes go very deep. I used to doubt everything conspiracy theory I used to hear thinking people were idiots for believing them. Now I've come to realize, most of it isn't as far fetched as I assumed it was.
I am not going to pretend I know his motives. I suspect that Trump's definition of "facilitate" is going to highly favor the man being left in El Salvador. I also suspect that the Supreme court played both sides of the field, making both seem like they got a victory when in fact the order to "facilitate" is so weak as to be meaningless.
 

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How was it in America's best interest to deliberately tank the economy?
We are at war. This is the championship match between the US and China to see who will be king. Many say the US can't win, a few say that China will be destroyed. I disagree with both. I believe the Bible and that the "little horn" will become the king when these two big horns go at it with each other and destroy each other. The other big horn is Europe and they also will be removed and the Little horn will reign instead of these three big horns.
 
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How was it in America's best interest to deliberately tank the economy?
It baffles my mind how every regular person is an economics subject matter expert, and probably hasn't read an economics book their whole life. For one. There is no guarantee that Trump or anyone can clean up the mess that fauci created, and that Biden deliberately made much worse. Now as for tanking the economy, in order to fix the economy it has to get worse before it can get better and if ur doing it right, it's a slow process. Trying to fix the economy too quickly is a sure way to make it even worse. My sources? Economics for dummies, the book I own on Kindle. Feel free to educate urself as u wish. ; ) lol.
 
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Yeah, it's in America's best interest when ICE agents are smashing in car windows and they don't even have the right guy. MAGA! Yee-ha.
I no longer watch the news, cuz most of it is lies these days. There is no journalistic integrity and it's all propaganda or flat out lies to boost support for the party they have allegiance too regardless of which side ur on. So, I'm not aware of what ur referring too. Just wanted u to know better than to believe everything on the news. For example, the right wing propaganda was that Mexican gangs were taking over different cities apartments etc. Etc. They called it a problem in.my city as well, but it simply wasn't happening here. Even police officers were saying they saw nothing like that going on from what people told me who knew police officers. So, this goes for the right and the left. The news is garbage. It's owned by elites that indirectly run things (he who has the money controlls politics and has the power) so, my personal advice is to watch grassroots news that has no ties to the psychos running the world. I recommend the jimmy Dore show on youtube as one of them. There are others as well, if youtube had not censored them earlier. Just have to dig and find to see unbiased content. They bash trump as well, but Def far from leftist.
 

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That's funny because I don't remember losing any free speech. I can say whatever I want
Woe unto you when all men shall speak well of you


Luke 6:24 But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation. 25 Woe unto you, ye that are full now! for ye shall hunger. Woe unto you, ye that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep. 26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for in the same manner did their fathers to the false prophets.



This is only in Luke. We need to take this to heart. Certainly contrary to the "prosperity gospel". If you are "full" now, if you are not hungering for righteousness, if you are rich, if you are not looking for a better city, if you are laughing and cackling about how wise and clever you are then you are not mourning over the sins and unrighteousness.



Finally if everyone is speaking well of you in this very nasty cancel culture and full on censorship culture then surely woe is unto you. They are arresting pastors for speaking the word of God saying they are giving aid to those who cause mischief! It is stunning what is considered a "crime" these days and what isn't. So often you hear of this or that one who the fact checkers have determined is not telling the truth only for us to learn a few months later that oops it was a mistake. I feel you should judge someone not simply by those that speak well of them but also by those who speak evil of them. If no one is opposing you then it is hard to believe you are speaking the word of God.



Meanwhile for the entire church age have all me spoken well of the Jews? No, that has not been a temptation to them. Do you think all men will speak well of Christians during the seven year tribulation? Again, no, that will not be a temptation at that time. So there is no reason for Mark or Matthew to have this word.
 
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Yes, the attack was on small business and churches. It was such hypocrisy that small businesses were shut down but Costco, Walmart, and Casinos were allowed to be open.
The abortion clinics and Liquor Barn also remained open, designated "essential". Outrageous!