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HealthAndHappiness

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You mean children who have autism? They didn't get it from the vaccine
In the thousands of cases of parents who have medical reports of their children suddenly being brain damaged aka autistic immediately following the second round of childhood vaccines, what is your conspiracy theory?
 

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Up next, and you can mark my words, is pedophilia. When the lefties start changing terms you know it's going to be their next pet cause. Now they are "minor attracted persons". Because when you say love is love it opens the door to anything a demented mind can conceive. Watch and see if that's not the next thing they will push everyone to accept.
Foregone conclusion that I think was already in process. It's only a matter of how far it's gotten which I think is fairly clear that it was quite far. I don't think it made its way entirely out of the closet though. In fact, it may be one of the if not the major line of demarcation where enough woke up and said that's enough.

I do think there are enough who would still go to any length to protect their children and even other's children. Meaning there are ultimately enough that still have sufficient semblance of God's thinking within.
 

ZNP

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In the thousands of cases of parents who have medical reports of their children suddenly being brain damaged aka autistic immediately following the second round of childhood vaccines, what is your conspiracy theory?
Who cares, he has already told us he is a blue collar "workin man". He has 0 credentials to say anything about science or the research on this topic. He has his opinion, but no one else will care less what he thinks.
 

HeIsHere

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In the thousands of cases of parents who have medical reports of their children suddenly being brain damaged aka autistic immediately following the second round of childhood vaccines, what is your conspiracy theory?
I know you have a great passion for this and I have my concerns as well about the original MMR vaccine, the one Bobby K Jr. exposed with the additional chemical that was added to stabilize the vaccine, however, I have worked with children/adolescents on the spectrum for about ten years along with their parents, I have never met a parent who stated "suddenly" but rather a slow deterioration over time.
 

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In the thousands of cases of parents who have medical reports of their children suddenly being brain damaged aka autistic immediately following the second round of childhood vaccines, what is your conspiracy theory?
Where are these parents? Where are the medical reports? Have you seen them? This is the first I'm hearing of this.
 

Dude653

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The dragon has been awakened
Starting a trade war with the country we buy basically everything from is beyond idiotic. Who would have thought that letting the stupidest man on the planet be doing the most important job in the world would be a bad idea
 

ZNP

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As my nephew would say "correlation is not causation."

And it is a fundamental truth of science inquiry.
That is true, however epidemics are always caused by a change in the environment. When you have a dramatic increase in autism rates from 1 in 100,000 to 1 in 36 over a 40 year period you have to look at what has changed dramatically in the environment.

One thing that has changed is childhood vaccines increased from 5 in 1980 to kids will get 60 shots today by the time they are 12.

By itself that is not proof of causation, but it is more than sufficient reason to justify a serious double blind scientific study into this.

People saying we don't have any proof that it is the vaccines causing the autism is like Bernie Madoff saying we don't have any proof he is running a pyramid scheme prior to us getting to look at his books. We don't have proof but we do have sufficient reason to justify doing a study.
 

ZNP

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Yes and they also think anecdotes are data
Agreed, just because you got a shot or your nephew has all his shot and doesn't have autism is not proof that is simply anecdotal evidence and doesn't even contradict the claim of 1 in 36.
 

HeIsHere

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That is true, however epidemics are always caused by a change in the environment. When you have a dramatic increase in autism rates from 1 in 100,000 to 1 in 36 over a 40 year period you have to look at what has changed dramatically in the environment.

One thing that has changed is childhood vaccines increased from 5 in 1980 to kids will get 60 shots today by the time they are 12.

By itself that is not proof of causation, but it is more than sufficient reason to justify a serious double blind scientific study into this.

People saying we don't have any proof that it is the vaccines causing the autism is like Bernie Madoff saying we don't have any proof he is running a pyramid scheme prior to us getting to look at his books. We don't have proof but we do have sufficient reason to justify doing a study.
I would think most doctors and researchers would agree there is an environmental component, however I am just wondering how one controls all the variables to determine causation.

Replication is the only true indicator of causation and my son is a research scientist with a PhD in the area of metallurgy and has told me there are very few studies, if any where the results have been replicated even when dealing with something like steel let alone the human body.

I do not think it is possible to determine causation, if you have taken any research/statistics courses it is about the numbers and finding that strong correlation.
 

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Starting a trade war with the country we buy basically everything from is beyond idiotic. Who would have thought that letting the stupidest man on the planet be doing the most important job in the world would be a bad idea
This did make me chuckle. :p
 

HealthAndHappiness

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That is true, however epidemics are always caused by a change in the environment. When you have a dramatic increase in autism rates from 1 in 100,000 to 1 in 36 over a 40 year period you have to look at what has changed dramatically in the environment.

One thing that has changed is childhood vaccines increased from 5 in 1980 to kids will get 60 shots today by the time they are 12.

By itself that is not proof of causation, but it is more than sufficient reason to justify a serious double blind scientific study into this.

People saying we don't have any proof that it is the vaccines causing the autism is like Bernie Madoff saying we don't have any proof he is running a pyramid scheme prior to us getting to look at his books. We don't have proof but we do have sufficient reason to justify doing a study.

I think you have read the personal details I've provided of family, clients and students who were victims of various vaccines. I just don't want to get into it with sceptics when I'm having such a good day. I know that I love those people too much and get emotionally empathetic, particular when writing about innocent people I know/ knew who suffered at the hands of murderers. I guess if they really care, they will seek the truth on this issue.

"Father, forgive them. They know not what they do."
 

Dude653

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Not sure what you mean. It did happen.
No it didn't.
Every state in America has statutory rape laws for adults who do sexual stuff with minors
Just ask someone who's been to prison about what happens to pedos in prison
 

Magenta

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No it didn't.
Every state in America has statutory rape laws for adults who do sexual stuff with minors
Just ask someone who's been to prison about what happens to pedos in prison
You are not really addressing what I said.

In other words, you have erected a straw man to knock down.
 

ZNP

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No it didn't.
Every state in America has statutory rape laws for adults who do sexual stuff with minors
Just ask someone who's been to prison about what happens to pedos in prison
Once again you speak without reading what she wrote
 

Cameron143

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Starting a trade war with the country we buy basically everything from is beyond idiotic. Who would have thought that letting the stupidest man on the planet be doing the most important job in the world would be a bad idea
Actually, we do 75% of our trade with other Americans. It is long overdue to correct trade practices with China, in particular, and the rest of the world. Trading so much with a geopolitical foe is insane to begin with. We should use trade as a means to make allies, and not prop up foes.
I hope we get more allies to shut them out of their markets. We will find out who our allies truly are.
 

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Starting a trade war with the country we buy basically everything from is beyond idiotic. Who would have thought that letting the stupidest man on the planet be doing the most important job in the world would be a bad idea
But according to his followers he's implementing a strategy that we can't comphrehend since he's genius and great business man. As Samuel L. Jackson would say, "B#$^& please!"
 

Jackson129

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Greater the pity. That's how people like AOC get elected. Dumber than a box of hair.



No, the divide is much further than that. That used to be the mark of Dem v Republicans. Right now the head of the Dems are AOC and Bernie, both socialists. There has been a radical shift in the Dem party where even die hards like Bill Maher are saying it's ridiculous. It used to be you'd vote for whoever you thought was best for your pocketbook. The parties weren't that far apart. Slick Willy Clinton got elected a second time by coming to the center. DOGE is showing how Dems have been defrauding the tax payer for years. I believe there is a difference in the parties. And I do believe that one side cares, and real middle of the road Dems that care have left the party.
Do you honestly think like actually honestly think Republicans dont defraud the tax payers too?