The Error of KJV-Onlyism
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When translating the Greek into English, the KJV got several things wrong. The ESV is a more accurately translated version. Though, I recommend reading in the Greek is way more fun!
I prefer a work by Spiro Zodhiates, or a program called Bibleworks. He dials into the contextual meaning. Strongs is very helpful, but there are times one needs to dig deeper for a more precise definition——
Strong’s Concordance primarily provides definitions of words from the original Hebrew (Old Testament) and Greek (New Testament) texts of the Bible. However, it does not define words in context in the way a modern dictionary or commentary might.
Here’s what Strong’s does:
• It assigns a unique number to each root Hebrew or Greek word found in the Bible.
• It gives a basic definition or gloss of the root word.
• It shows where and how often the word appears in the Bible.
• It helps trace the word back to its original meaning in the original language.
What it doesn’t do:
• It doesn’t account for contextual nuance—the same Greek or Hebrew word might mean something slightly or significantly different depending on the passage.
• It doesn’t provide grammatical or syntactical information that affects meaning.
• It doesn’t show idiomatic uses or broader theological implications of words.
If you’re looking to understand a word in context, you might want to supplement Strong’s with:
• Lexicons (e.g., BDAG for Greek, HALOT for Hebrew)
• Bible dictionaries
• Commentaries
• Contextual word studies
Sorry, but what has that got to do with it? King James did NOT translate the bible that is known as the King James Version. He merely commissioned it in his position as titular head of the Church of England.
As the one who commissioned it, he did set the tone and influenced it allbeit indirectly....
It's disturbing that you would try to minimize this. In light of that, I don't see God choosing to make this version to be His "official translation".
Look at the building of the first temple. David wanted to run the project, but God said no and said that his son will be the one to build it:
1 Chronicles 22:8 But the word of the Lord came to me, saying, ‘You have shed much blood and have waged great wars. You shall not build a house to my name, because you have shed so much blood before me on the earth.
And you think God would actually make the KJV His "official" translation with a gay king commissioning the project? No way!
So yeah, I don't think the KJV was ever God's appointed, anointed or official translation!
Nor any other English translation for that matter. We are to trust God's guidance alone in studying what He is saying to us from Scripture and not make an idol out of any translation.
I am sorry but you seem to have read far more into my post than was there. I never even mentioned God choosing to make this version to be His "official translation". What is more, I don't believe that God made any English translation His "official translation". Nor did I say that we are to make an idol out of any translation.As the one who commissioned it, he did set the tone and influenced it allbeit indirectly....
It's disturbing that you would try to minimize this. In light of that, I don't see God choosing to make this version to be His "official translation".
Look at the building of the first temple. David wanted to run the project, but God said no and said that his son will be the one to build it:
1 Chronicles 22:8 But the word of the Lord came to me, saying, ‘You have shed much blood and have waged great wars. You shall not build a house to my name, because you have shed so much blood before me on the earth.
And you think God would actually make the KJV His "official" translation with a gay king commissioning the project? No way!
So yeah, I don't think the KJV was ever God's appointed, anointed or official translation!
Nor any other English translation for that matter. We are to trust God's guidance alone in studying what He is saying to us from Scripture and not make an idol out of any translation.
Regarding what influence King James I had on the translation, I don't think it can have been much, as far as his homosexuality was concerned, for the translation bearing his name includes plenty of passages showing God's judgment of it:
“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,” (1Co 6:9 AV)
The word translated "effeminate" there is translated "homosexuals" in the New King Jame Version.
I am sorry but you seem to have read far more into my post than was there. I never even mentioned God choosing to make this version to be His "official translation". What is more, I don't believe that God made any English translation His "official translation". Nor did I say that we are to make an idol out of any translation.As the one who commissioned it, he did set the tone and influenced it allbeit indirectly....
It's disturbing that you would try to minimize this. In light of that, I don't see God choosing to make this version to be His "official translation".
Look at the building of the first temple. David wanted to run the project, but God said no and said that his son will be the one to build it:
1 Chronicles 22:8 But the word of the Lord came to me, saying, ‘You have shed much blood and have waged great wars. You shall not build a house to my name, because you have shed so much blood before me on the earth.
And you think God would actually make the KJV His "official" translation with a gay king commissioning the project? No way!
So yeah, I don't think the KJV was ever God's appointed, anointed or official translation!
Nor any other English translation for that matter. We are to trust God's guidance alone in studying what He is saying to us from Scripture and not make an idol out of any translation.
Regarding what influence King James I had on the translation, I don't think it can have been much, as far as his homosexuality was concerned, for the translation bearing his name includes plenty of passages showing God's judgment of it:
“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,” (1Co 6:9 AV)
The word translated "effeminate" there is translated "homosexuals" in the New King Jame Version.
I fully agree with you that we should God's guidance alone in studying what He is saying to us from Scripture
I am sorry but you seem to have read far more into my post than was there. I never even mentioned God choosing to make this version to be His "official translation". What is more, I don't believe that God made any English translation His "official translation". Nor did I say that we are to make an idol out of any translation.As the one who commissioned it, he did set the tone and influenced it allbeit indirectly....
It's disturbing that you would try to minimize this. In light of that, I don't see God choosing to make this version to be His "official translation".
Look at the building of the first temple. David wanted to run the project, but God said no and said that his son will be the one to build it:
1 Chronicles 22:8 But the word of the Lord came to me, saying, ‘You have shed much blood and have waged great wars. You shall not build a house to my name, because you have shed so much blood before me on the earth.
And you think God would actually make the KJV His "official" translation with a gay king commissioning the project? No way!
So yeah, I don't think the KJV was ever God's appointed, anointed or official translation!
Nor any other English translation for that matter. We are to trust God's guidance alone in studying what He is saying to us from Scripture and not make an idol out of any translation.
Regarding what influence King James I had on the translation, I don't think it can have been much, as far as his homosexuality was concerned, for the translation bearing his name includes plenty of passages showing God's judgment of it:
“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,” (1Co 6:9 AV)
The word translated "effeminate" there is translated "homosexuals" in the New King James Version, the version that I mostly use.
I fully agree with you that we should God's guidance alone in studying what He is saying to us from Scripture
I am sorry but you seem to have read far more into my post than was there. I never even mentioned God choosing to make this version to be His "official translation". What is more, I don't believe that God made any English translation His "official translation". Nor did I say that we are to make an idol out of any translation.As the one who commissioned it, he did set the tone and influenced it allbeit indirectly....
It's disturbing that you would try to minimize this. In light of that, I don't see God choosing to make this version to be His "official translation".
Look at the building of the first temple. David wanted to run the project, but God said no and said that his son will be the one to build it:
1 Chronicles 22:8 But the word of the Lord came to me, saying, ‘You have shed much blood and have waged great wars. You shall not build a house to my name, because you have shed so much blood before me on the earth.
And you think God would actually make the KJV His "official" translation with a gay king commissioning the project? No way!
So yeah, I don't think the KJV was ever God's appointed, anointed or official translation!
Nor any other English translation for that matter. We are to trust God's guidance alone in studying what He is saying to us from Scripture and not make an idol out of any translation.
Regarding what influence King James I had on the translation, I don't think it can have been much, as far as his homosexuality was concerned, for the translation bearing his name includes plenty of passages showing God's judgment of it:
“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,” (1Co 6:9 AV)
The word translated "effeminate" there is translated "homosexuals" in the New King James Version, the version that I mostly use.
I fully agree with you that we should God's guidance alone in studying what He is saying to us from Scripture
I am sorry but you seem to have read far more into my post than was there. I never even mentioned God choosing to make this version to be His "official translation". What is more, I don't believe that God made any English translation His "official translation". Nor did I say that we are to make an idol out of any translation.As the one who commissioned it, he did set the tone and influenced it allbeit indirectly....
It's disturbing that you would try to minimize this. In light of that, I don't see God choosing to make this version to be His "official translation".
Look at the building of the first temple. David wanted to run the project, but God said no and said that his son will be the one to build it:
1 Chronicles 22:8 But the word of the Lord came to me, saying, ‘You have shed much blood and have waged great wars. You shall not build a house to my name, because you have shed so much blood before me on the earth.
And you think God would actually make the KJV His "official" translation with a gay king commissioning the project? No way!
So yeah, I don't think the KJV was ever God's appointed, anointed or official translation!
Nor any other English translation for that matter. We are to trust God's guidance alone in studying what He is saying to us from Scripture and not make an idol out of any translation.
Regarding what influence King James I had on the translation, I don't think it can have been much, as far as his homosexuality was concerned, for the translation bearing his name includes plenty of passages showing God's judgment of it:
“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,” (1Co 6:9 AV)
The word translated "effeminate" there is translated "homosexuals" in the New King James Version, the version that I mostly use.
I fully agree with you that we should God's guidance alone in studying what He is saying to us from Scripture
I apologise for the multiple appearances of the same post from me. When I tried to post it, there seemed to be something wrong with the forum, but I thought it was my computer, so I tried again, and again, and again. Unfortunately, my posts don't seem to have the usual "Delete" button.
Any member normally can edit or delete a post within 5 minutes of the initial post submit time.
Another problem with the King James edition is they actually held out some books. The scrolls weren't originally one book. Keep in mind the word "Bible" itself isn't even Hebrew. It's from the Greek word "biblia" that descended from Latin.
They left some writings out because they knew it would sell more if they were smaller. Also, some had different opinions on which books should be in canon. And like I said before, some translations were changed based on cultural bias, especially the newer translations. There's much more than 66 books and people would understand scripture better if they included all books but unfortunately people are trained to think the other books are not to be read. Even though there's mentions of these removed books in the King James Bible.
They left some writings out because they knew it would sell more if they were smaller. Also, some had different opinions on which books should be in canon. And like I said before, some translations were changed based on cultural bias, especially the newer translations. There's much more than 66 books and people would understand scripture better if they included all books but unfortunately people are trained to think the other books are not to be read. Even though there's mentions of these removed books in the King James Bible.
Which books do you believe were "held out" of the KJV?
Jasher is one of the most important books left out for sure. It has more detailed events of Genesis and Exodus. Maccabees is important because they remind of the revolt of pagan control. There's even some books that give more details of Jesus leading up to his crucifixion that explicitly illustrates him as God. The books of the 12 sons of Jacob on their deathbeds, which also explicitly foretold prophecies of Jesus as God coming to save the Gentiles.
The Ethiopian Bible has 81 books. They kept their books protected from interference.
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Just to let everyone know, I released my 77 Changed Doctrines in Modern Bibles free PDF.
You can check it out at www.affectionsabove.com
Oh, and the animation on the website works best in the browsers known as Safari, or DuckDuckGo.
Side Note:
It may take time for my new website to reach certain regions.
May God bless you all.
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Just to let everyone know, I released my 77 Changed Doctrines in Modern Bibles free PDF.
You can check it out at www.affectionsabove.com
Oh, and the animation on the website works best in the browsers known as Safari, or DuckDuckGo.
Side Note:
It may take time for my new website to reach certain regions.
May God bless you all.
....
The file (including Calvinism) is very large. Would it be possible for you to C&P part of it for us to discuss on this thread?