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I'm not big on meat from wild animals because of the gamey taste, but if it's between me or the duck, I wouldn't bet on the duck.
This is completely false brother. You couldn't be more wrong. We are born fallen, disconnescted from God. That which is born of fleash is flesh, but that born of Spirit is Spirit. This is why EVERY man must be born again to enter the kingdom. The only way I know to be completely blind to this truth as to deny it outright like you're doing, is to not have been born again yet. You CAN'T understand the truth of these two natures until you are born again, the veil is lifted, and you can see for the first time. I'm not saying this to be mean, judgemental, or suggestive in any way, but this is the truth.
If you think there is only one nature and that God making us "All New Creatures" through Jesus is just a saying or poetic thought, brother I testify to you in Jesus name that being born again is an actual event in our lives when God resurrects our dead spirits for the first time and reconciles us to Him, to the Spirit. If this isn't two seperate natures to you, the first is the flesh, the second of the Spirit, then I'm very concerned you have not been born again in truth. This is not something one can deny after it happens. I'm telling you in His name that this change is the definition of REAL and God changed me in a real life "road to Damascus" way and this is what He calls us all to. Keep seeking Him until you understand what I'm talking about.
Nope - it means you haven't eaten. Not every "LUST" is sinful in the absolute. However, EVERY HUMAN has individually "FALLEN" - we've ALL allowed our "LUST" to conceive, and result in SINFUL ACTIONS - just like Adam did, after his wife did.
Here is a panel I just designed, which has ducks in it, though many are kind of hiding behind the figure, unless I reverse the main background image... which do you prefer? I like seeing all the ducks, but I also like seeing the cherry tree, as ours are all blooming now...
Jesus' words in John 15 verse 19 and John 14 verse 17 ~ If you were of the world, it would love you as its own. Instead, the world hates you, because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. The world cannot receive Him, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him.
The sin nature turns normal, legitimate desire, into lust.
Jesus had normal, legitimate desires as a man can...
Your personal "Theology" is noted, and disregarded.
Original SIN is a LIE. And it's totally unimportant anyway. The reason being that YOU WILL FALL INTO SIN WHEN: you allow your LUST to conceive, and birth SINFUL ACTIONS. You have done that, and so have I.
I was "Born again" by FAITH in the SIN OFFERING of Jesus on the Cross to Cleanse me, following Conviction of SIN by the Holy Spirit back in '63.
I don't see a panel. Did you use transparent ducks?Here is a panel I just designed, which has ducks in it, though many are kind of hiding behind the figure, unless I reverse the main background image... which do you prefer? I like seeing all the ducks, but I also like seeing the cherry tree, as ours are all blooming now...
Jesus' words in John 15 verse 19 and John 14 verse 17 ~ If you were of the world, it would love you as its own. Instead, the world hates you, because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. The world cannot receive Him, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him.
So explain how/why Eve, and then Adam Tossed God under the bus, and went with satan with their supposedly "unfallen natures".
Psalm 14:1-3; Job 15:16 ~ The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt; their acts are vile. There is no one who does good. The LORD looks down from heaven upon the sons of men to see if any understand, if any seek God. All have turned away, they have together become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one. Man is vile and
There are two... you see neither? Here is a third one where I combined both elements into one...
Jesus' words in John 15 verse 19 and John 14 verse 17 ~ If you were of the world, it would love you as its own. Instead, the world hates you, because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. The world cannot receive Him, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him.
Eh? Are you suggesting I have said their natures were unfallen? Your position is saying their nature did not change.
I don't see the panel at all.There are two... you see neither? Here is a third one where I combined both elements into one...
Jesus' words in John 15 verse 19 and John 14 verse 17 ~ If you were of the world, it would love you as its own. Instead, the world hates you, because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. The world cannot receive Him, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him.