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Well, if you read Rev 6, Jesus provides us with a blow-by-blow account of major events that will happen as He opens each of the seven seals. First major event that the entire world will notice is described Rev 6:3-4, international warfare. We've had two world wars, but these wars didn't really include the entire world. This one will.
The primary source for the theory that the world will end 6000 years after creation comes from the Jewish Talmud, not the Scriptures. Besides, from everything I've learned about the changes made to the Scriptures by the Masorete Jewish scribes when they translated the OT Greek to Hebrew and changed the begetting ages in Gen 5 & 11, which changed the Bible timeline by over 1250 years, we've already passed the 6000-year mark since creation. If creation was in 5554BC, plus the current year 2025, that's 7579 years since creation. So, the 6000-year theory is no longer valid.
Yes I know. How are you today? I have a question for you about the two witnesses in Rev that I'm a bit confused about.
The seventh trumpet is sounded (Rev 11:15) AFTER the two witnesses are taken up into heaven (Rev 11:12), yet God's wrath is not finished yet with the 7 bowl judgments, which is the end of God's wrath. The two witnesses are supposed to be on the earth for 42 months (Rev 11:2-3), which is 3.5 years, so at the end of the 7-year tribulation period. Some say that the trumpet and bowl/vial judgments happen at the same time. This could be the answer, but what is your view? Thanks
The seventh trumpet is sounded (Rev 11:15) AFTER the two witnesses are taken up into heaven (Rev 11:12), yet God's wrath is not finished yet with the 7 bowl judgments, which is the end of God's wrath. The two witnesses are supposed to be on the earth for 42 months (Rev 11:2-3), which is 3.5 years, so at the end of the 7-year tribulation period. Some say that the trumpet and bowl/vial judgments happen at the same time. This could be the answer, but what is your view? Thanks
I agree that the 2 witnesses appear same day as antichrist because Scriptures say this. The antichrist then kills the 2 witnesses and 3 day later Jesus calls them up to heaven after they finish their witness, which is 42 months, or last day of the 7-year period. But, then the next major events described are the pouring out of bowl/vial judgments, unless the vials are poured out the same day, the last day of the 7-year period. Does this make sense?
Yes, I know and agree with this as this is supported by the Scriptures. My question is regarding the two witnesses. Why are they taken up to heaven seemingly BEFORE their 42 months of ministry is complete? Do you know? Only way I can see this happening if the bowl/vial judgments are released all on the last day of their ministry right after the last trumpet judgment, which is the last day of the 7-year tribulation period. However, don't see a Scripture to support this idea, nor have I heard any Bible scholar explain this.
Here is how I see it based on resurrection/rapture being at Rev 14:14--reaping
Covenant with many--Dan 9:27-----Feast Trumpets
2 witnesses appear
Seal Judgements --about 7 months
Man to be antichrist begins his journey for 2300 days after the seals
Chaos and troubles in world but not in the Mediterranean area under his protection.
Antichrist takes his seat in Temple after 1260 days or 42 months
witnesses killed
30 days later during Passover the Abomination is placed 1290 days Dan 12:11
45 days later the Blessed Day arrives 1335th day ---resurrection/rapture Rev 14:14 Pentecost
Day of the Lord begins--moment between Last Trumpet and Vials
Bowl/Vial Judgments under way
1185 days remain to complete the seven years ( 2520 days )
Great Tribulation
Few survive this time
Everyone who enters the vials are unrighteous
Lord returns to reign during the millennium
Covenant with many--Dan 9:27-----Feast Trumpets
2 witnesses appear
Seal Judgements --about 7 months
Man to be antichrist begins his journey for 2300 days after the seals
Chaos and troubles in world but not in the Mediterranean area under his protection.
Antichrist takes his seat in Temple after 1260 days or 42 months
witnesses killed
30 days later during Passover the Abomination is placed 1290 days Dan 12:11
45 days later the Blessed Day arrives 1335th day ---resurrection/rapture Rev 14:14 Pentecost
Day of the Lord begins--moment between Last Trumpet and Vials
Bowl/Vial Judgments under way
1185 days remain to complete the seven years ( 2520 days )
Great Tribulation
Few survive this time
Everyone who enters the vials are unrighteous
Lord returns to reign during the millennium