Becomes Trump a dictator?

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HeIsHere

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First of all do you know how geography is laid out in the globe?
Ukraine is near Russia. Texas is in USA.
Russia "taking" Ukraine is not the same as Russia "Taking" Texas, because Russia is about half world apart from USA.
This is why the closest analogy is Mexico taking Texas because Mexico is close to United States.

Secondly, i know that you watch too much liberal news in West Germany but the war with Ukraine and Russia is not Ukraine and Russia but more like Ukraine and Nato, or if you wanna get more granular it's USA vs Russia, hence it's a proxy war.
This is the same as Russia having nuclear missles near Cuba. Last time that happened we got close to WW3.
Similarly, Russia does not want Nato near its borders.

Thirdly, Putin underestimated Western support because Ukraine exists because of military equipment support and money support form the West.

Forth - when this exact thing happened in Kosovo in the 90s, USA did a proxy war with Russia who supported Serbia and USA supported Kosovo.
Why are you so confused? Do you get out of your zone once in a while?
People do not know history, that is the problem.
 

Eli1

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There's a live cabinet meeting with Trump now and he just said that "USA has spent 350 billion dollars on Ukraine and Europe has spent 100 billion dollars in Ukraine"
Imagine that!
Russia is fighting USA and Europe in this proxy war!
 

Eli1

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As far the trade deficit goes, Trump describes the US market as the 'pot of gold' that everyone wants a piece of, which means that everyone's efforts to 'beat' the US market is going to fail.
Also he has said in the past that dealing with the US market should be a privilege not a right.

Such a breath of fresh air.
 

Eli1

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With 10% for the big guy. All the kickbacks, contractors, theft and fraud.
$2 or $3 bucks for Ukraine?
The big guy left like 7 billion dollars of equipment in Afghanistan like it was a 10 dollar bill.
And that’s just the cherry on top after billions wasted there for decades
 

Kroogz

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The big guy left like 7 billion dollars of equipment in Afghanistan like it was a 10 dollar bill.
And that’s just the cherry on top after billions wasted there for decades
True. I would bet that a select few got VERY rich doing it this way. The big guy has very apt "little guys."
 
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It is also open how much Trump is working together with Putin. I can understand when Trump says EU has to invest more for defence and security. Slowly this comes in the understanding of the EU. But I do not understand his sympathy with Putin. This makes Trump in eyes of the West scary about that what will come from his side.
Do not forget the US were the Protector from the West since WWII.

Trump said when ask about Syria,Iran,Afghanistan ect. in his fist term that he would not say if he were going to attack by a certain date or where because it would give the terrorist time to move or prepare and would endanger US troops. So I would not take some of the things he says as if it were actually so. He has said since the meeting in Arabia that Putin agreed with putting UN peacekeepers in Ukraine but Russia has denied that they agreed several times. In war misinformation type propaganda has always been seen as a useful tool and so Trump may be saying Putin agreed to it to spread mistrust between the Kremlin and Putin.
The issue of the EU and NATO investing more on defense could possibly be the same that if the US invest in Ukraine then they should also. Money or boots on the ground my make it seem more sensible where if Russia has 600,000 troops in Ukraine then 600,000 or more allied solders are needed to put this in check so 600,000 minus the 30,000 the EU can send leaves the US having to send 570,000 or more troops to Ukraine to make up the difference. Or else there's the other option in regards to Ukraine where France,Germany and the other EU nations issue a draft and we all send the same investment to Ukraine.
 
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I dont know how you americans see this. In europe at seems that Trump and Musk doing everything for to fight against democracy and freedom to encrease their own Power and influence.
The U.S.A. is not, and never has been a "Democracy" the "Founding Fathers" wanted to ensure that we weren't, since in a democracy, the "Minority" has no voice. We're a "Constitutional Republic".
 

ZNP

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Trump said the Kremlin has agreed to the plan to send in UN peacekeepers to Ukraine. Putin said the Kremlin did not agree.

Who you gonna believe? Donald Trump or Vladimir Putin?


⚡ALERT: TRUMP WILL NOW ARM UKRAINE! I F'N TOLD U SO, RUSSIA IS WTF?
 
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First of all do you know how geography is laid out in the globe?
Ukraine is near Russia. Texas is in USA.
Russia "taking" Ukraine is not the same as Russia "Taking" Texas, because Russia is about half world apart from USA.
This is why the closest analogy is Mexico taking Texas because Mexico is close to United States.

Secondly, i know that you watch too much liberal news in West Germany but the war with Ukraine and Russia is not Ukraine and Russia but more like Ukraine and Nato, or if you wanna get more granular it's USA vs Russia, hence it's a proxy war.
This is the same as Russia having nuclear missles near Cuba. Last time that happened we got close to WW3.
Similarly, Russia does not want Nato near its borders.

Thirdly, Putin underestimated Western support because Ukraine exists because of military equipment support and money support form the West.

Forth - when this exact thing happened in Kosovo in the 90s, USA did a proxy war with Russia who supported Serbia and USA supported Kosovo.
Why are you so confused? Do you get out of your zone once in a while?
I am not shure who is confused.
1. It was an example ( of course not real)
2. Russia attacked Ucraine with the goal to destroy ucraine culture and bring the ucraine under russia controle and cultur.
3. Yes he did underestimate the West. But europe would never be strong enough to do it without the US. The West supports the ucrsine because of selfdefense. The last 40 years f.e. germany reduces army and Support for german army. So how the EU could be habe a interest to attack russia? Thats gracie and far of reality.
4 this may be true. But has nothing to do with the present war. Which Putin startet.
 

Eli1

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I am not shure who is confused.
1. It was an example ( of course not real)
2. Russia attacked Ucraine with the goal to destroy ucraine culture and bring the ucraine under russia controle and cultur.
3. Yes he did underestimate the West. But europe would never be strong enough to do it without the US. The West supports the ucrsine because of selfdefense. The last 40 years f.e. germany reduces army and Support for german army. So how the EU could be habe a interest to attack russia? Thats gracie and far of reality.
4 this may be true. But has nothing to do with the present war. Which Putin startet.
1. You've got the wrong example !
2. I don't think you read what i wrote. Or if you don't like it just say so. Just say "i don't like it". Because if you're unable to process a different view which is also a well established fact, then why do you want to have a discussion anyway?
3. The world powers test new equipment in proxy wars. People suffer. This is another fact.
4. Proxy wars between world powers are another fact.
 

ZNP

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1. You've got the wrong example !
2. I don't think you read what i wrote. Or if you don't like it just say so. Just say "i don't like it". Because if you're unable to process a different view which is also a well established fact, then why do you want to have a discussion anyway?
3. The world powers test new equipment in proxy wars. People suffer. This is another fact.
4. Proxy wars between world powers are another fact.
I'm still confused, have you two agreed on which one of you is confused or are you still confused about which of you two is confused?
 
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1. You've got the wrong example !
2. I don't think you read what i wrote. Or if you don't like it just say so. Just say "i don't like it". Because if you're unable to process a different view which is also a well established fact, then why do you want to have a discussion anyway?
3. The world powers test new equipment in proxy wars. People suffer. This is another fact.
4. Proxy wars between world powers are another fact.
Oh dear, an example is an example.
I see we have an different view. I cant agree with yours.
What I agreevis with this proxy wars.
But, the war between russia and ucraine has nothing to do with a proxy war.
 
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Trump said when ask about Syria,Iran,Afghanistan ect. in his fist term that he would not say if he were going to attack by a certain date or where because it would give the terrorist time to move or prepare and would endanger US troops. So I would not take some of the things he says as if it were actually so. He has said since the meeting in Arabia that Putin agreed with putting UN peacekeepers in Ukraine but Russia has denied that they agreed several times. In war misinformation type propaganda has always been seen as a useful tool and so Trump may be saying Putin agreed to it to spread mistrust between the Kremlin and Putin.
The issue of the EU and NATO investing more on defense could possibly be the same that if the US invest in Ukraine then they should also. Money or boots on the ground my make it seem more sensible where if Russia has 600,000 troops in Ukraine then 600,000 or more allied solders are needed to put this in check so 600,000 minus the 30,000 the EU can send leaves the US having to send 570,000 or more troops to Ukraine to make up the difference. Or else there's the other option in regards to Ukraine where France,Germany and the other EU nations issue a draft and we all send the same investment to Ukraine.
Present I cant see an solution.