Can the intense fear of Hell possibly have the unintended consequence of driving one further from God?
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Fear comes from Satan and Satan's job is to drive you further from God ---
Hell does not have to be feared -----someone going to hell is going there of their own choice -----there is an option you just have to choose the option ----who is Jesus -----
We have free will to choose hell or heaven ----God has made that clear ----we can choose the 2nd death or choose life ----all up to us ---nothing to fear there ----just your own CHOICE
Absolutely.
First, to have fear is to be put under Law to do to get and keep that in check or else you dead. really? When no flesh other than Son's could ever please God Father?
Anything not of Faith to God Father in risen Son is Fear, sin that one gets under the control of through religion's hammer.
"You not good" I respond thank you, I know this, I need God, how about you, religion hates the freedom of God given people. That takes away the Hammer to control others and bring others into your church gathering, where accusations and excuses exist between those there, and you and others not there too.
Not good for anyone's Soul is it? You choose, assuredly not good for my Soul or God's true love for all either. Does God love us all or not? I see All, thank you God
I see what fear is
False
Evidence
Appearing
Real
You better go there or here not over there or there. what??????????????????????????????
Does not everyone know what is not good and what is bad for them in their own Soul.
God did not come to save flesh. All flesh to God, died in the first Adam
Made alive in the second Adam, the only flesh ever perfect to walk this earth
We now as born new in God's Spirit and Truth get led new in love to all, that is the call. If not, then Christ did not die for all did God, yet the Bible in Hebrews 10 says God did that, in verse 10
Oh and tell you is God perfect Love? If is, then all fear is cast out, it is or is not (1 John 4:18)
1 John 4:18
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
therefore if you are in sin fear and presented you better fear, then you not made perfect by God in love yet, yet, from God you are from Father, Daddy's, PaPa's view. Romans 12:1-2, then you can offer you to Father to make you Holy too, and not from the earths view, Daddy's view thank you
Where Father says to you his Grace is sufficient for you too (2 Cor 12:7-10)
Sometimes, the thought of hell for my loved ones who are not saved is overwhelming.
I have learned that when I feel this way, I resort to intense praying for their salvation.
I intercede with my prayers through the cross of the blood of Jesus to the Father and ask him to not blot out the names of my family members in the Book of Life. I know he hears my prayer and supplication.
I have learned that when I feel this way, I resort to intense praying for their salvation.
I intercede with my prayers through the cross of the blood of Jesus to the Father and ask him to not blot out the names of my family members in the Book of Life. I know he hears my prayer and supplication.
K
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Personally, I do not believe that the intense fear of hell drives anybody further from God. Instead, I believe that the concept of hell does. In other words, there are a lot of people who claim that the punishment of everlasting fire and torment does not match the crime or that it is unjust for someone to suffer eternally for a temporal sin. Mind you, I do not agree with the people who think this way, but I have heard that argument many times.
In my mind, the real problem is that people have become so desensitized to sin, even to the point where it is now "entertainment" in movies, TV, etc., that they do not recognize how exceedingly sinful it truly is. Speaking about hell, in my estimation, helps to straighten people out along these lines. As one preacher that I know says by way of analogy, if I told you that I went to court today, and I had to pay a $25 fine, then you could guess, based upon my punishment or penalty, that I only had to pay for a minor infraction like a parking ticket. However, if I told you that I went to court today, and I was sentenced to life imprisonment or the death penalty, then you could guess, based upon my punishment or penalty, that I committed a horrible crime like murder. In other words, the severity of the punishment is indicative of the severity of the crime.
Hell was created for the devil and his angels (Matt. 25:41). Those who go there will be those who not only served Satan and demons in this life, but those who also refused to repent of their sins in order to be born again or saved.
Think of all the crimes against humanity which have ever been committed. Satan and demons where the inspiration or the influencing forces behind all of them.
Are Satan and demons worthy of eternal damnation?
Yes, they are, and so are those who willfully follow them in this life. If people choose to follow Satan and demons in this life, and multitudes do, then they will follow them to hell (the lake of fire) on Judgment Day as well.
the fear of hell should drive people to the arms of the loving Father who gave His Son for us. so that we dont go to hell. rejoice in that. it should motivate to live a holy life
to willfully choose "Unbelief" to Father and Son as Won (One) for you is all that was left to choose to beleive God or not in Son for you, tha tis risen presently and forever for you. To see, by continued belief, one, anyone eventually sees after going through troubles too.
Here on this earth, I do not see troubles stopping, I do see new views of troubles as God, not self ever teaches us each contentment in them. This curbs them to not trouble you anymore, knowing you are saved by Father and Son as Won for you. knowing you are not perfect and now thankful you re not, glorying now in your need for God to work it out through you
That be Rest as in Hebrews 4 tells me about it, to Rest Hebrews 4:9-13
Just a follow up on what I have found. After reviewing your replies and doing a lot of thinking I have realized Love of God and My love for others trumps all fear. Thank you for the responses.
thank you for that truth through you given you to see it by God for you, woe is me
Angels rejoicing
1 John 4:17-19
The Consummation of Love
17 Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world.
18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love.
19 We love Him because He first loved us.
The Consummation of Love
17 Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world.
18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love.
19 We love Him because He first loved us.
That becomes learned as already from Father, Daddy, Papa's view, and I so very well thank Daddy for Son Jesus to reconcile us all first. without that, there is no chance as seen in the first testament to me anyways, no new life in the first testament given yet, thanks
Nothing that a simple prayer from a mature brother or sister can't recover that soul from such a pit if it somehow did occur.
As in the broad scope of Galatians 6:1 to ''restore such a one'' caught in a (trespass Grk: a falling away, lapse, slip, false step, trespass, sin.), prayer is a powerful tool!
we do pray for one another for God to get through to each in a personal trust of God love us all, at least for me to see not to get into things, if I am not ready, which only father knows who are and who are not yet
Let's continue to grow as in Hebrews 5:12-6:3 And that word "If" from the greek can mean and many times does mean since. To me in Hebrews 6:3 God permits this since Son went to that cross for us all Hebrews 10:10
Well man sure uses it to get people saved GOD never does. I can see how it could yet seen to many come to God that way. Praise GOD HE never turns anyone away that come to Him.