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Not what I was getting at exactly...
It's more like this:
Jesus who is both fully man, and fully God in union.
Denied Himself the right to function as God.
And, in doing so. Made Himself to be as a man... Philippians 2:6-8
Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!
He is capable to enter into such a state on not being omniscient.
So, when we were created?
He entered into that state. I was God's means to avoid omniscience at the point of creating us!
That way?
In perfect love, he created all men in a desire for them all to love God as he loves God.
What God in Power saw the Son's humanity creating in His mind?
In God's power declared them to become alive at God's appointed time for each one of us!
That way? Our free will was sealed and kept from being overruled.
It was always there.
The answer is a Treasure that had been buried in God's Word!
My goal is that they may be encouraged in heart and united in love,
so that they may have the full riches of complete understanding, in order
that they may know the mystery of God, namely, Christ, in whom are hidden
all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
Colossians 2:2-3
Ignore my answer in post #50.
Yes but the Son, whom all things were created by, for and through isn't God alone and He can not know things and still be God.
B
Believer08
Guest
I believe that the topic of double-mindedness and the lamp of the body's (single) eye has relevance in answering the OP's question.
The doubleminded, unstable in all their ways, should not expect to receive anything from the Lord (James 1:7-8). These ask Him (believe He is), but not in faith (do not believe that He is faithful).
And James 4 gives the directive to draw nigh to God, and He will draw nigh to you... and purify your hearts, ye double minded (James 4:8).
These both are speaking toward minds, all with the potential to be either led by the flesh or the spirit and I have yet to fully flesh out the possibility of perhaps, in some cases (or even all of us at one time or another) both? All are sinners, I have no question there but, are those, referred to as double-minded, unbelievers or unstable 'believers'?
The doubleminded, unstable in all their ways, should not expect to receive anything from the Lord (James 1:7-8). These ask Him (believe He is), but not in faith (do not believe that He is faithful).
And James 4 gives the directive to draw nigh to God, and He will draw nigh to you... and purify your hearts, ye double minded (James 4:8).
These both are speaking toward minds, all with the potential to be either led by the flesh or the spirit and I have yet to fully flesh out the possibility of perhaps, in some cases (or even all of us at one time or another) both? All are sinners, I have no question there but, are those, referred to as double-minded, unbelievers or unstable 'believers'?
The existence of a thing or Being is defined not just of what it is but also what it's not
news flash this just revealed......the enemy is going to try afflict Father with damage caused when billions go up in smoke.....He will be aware of it all and with us, the pit is trying to rise up, be aware
No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God
and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known. John 1:18
In the Greek - John 1:18 tells us that Jesus is God's perfect interpretation of God to man.
A perfect interpretation that is expressed in our terms and concepts, so we can know and understand
God as much as is humanly possible. All the God we can know is to be found in Christ!
For more of the Greek meaning, the Amplified Bible does a very good rendering...
[He has revealed Him and brought Him out where He can be seen;
He has interpreted Him and He has made Him known].
A pastor in my church's ministry, Pastor Ralph G. Braun, once told me this, and I will never forget it.
He said that the Greek word used to command pastors to exegete the Word of God, is the same word
used to reveal the Lord's function in 'exegeting' the Father to us.
I was humbled to learn that on that day.
We are truly in for something good.
Beyond what we can dream or imagine.
.........
Because only the Son has two natures. The Father is Deity only and cannot deny Himself. It was early morning when I posted and my thinking cap was still in the drawer.
B
Believer08
Guest
Because only the Son has two natures. The Father is Deity only and cannot deny Himself. It was early morning when I posted and my thinking cap was still in the drawer.
The Father is Deity only???
Yes, and those treasures are accessed as Christians led by the Holy Spirit learn God's Word--which means correctly interpreted and rightly applied.
Well, Jesus could not know the time of the Second Coming and still be God the Son.
The Father never had a human existence; only the Son did. Perhaps "Spirit only" is a better description than "Deity only".
YES!
That is why we need the Son who takes what we can not humanly sense about the Father, and makes what we can not perceive in human terms to be transformed into what we can relate to.
Jesus is God's means to make Himself knowable to man!
No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God
and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known. John 1:18
Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among
you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father.
How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? John 14:9
grace and peace .............
Unless you are an exceptional pastor-teacher, these days very little accurate interpretation is taking place.
God only gives us a few. Not the many we see these days.
Note the following passages and see how they correlate.
Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers,
because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly. James 3:1
Not many should be known. These few will be able to teach sound doctrine.
Such teachers are a direct gift from God's kitchen to your plate for you to digest.
But... Today? What do we get?
Instead of a few good teachers, like it should be?
We now get inundated with all sorts of BAD teachings of God's Word.
Many are seeking teachers to tell them what they personally want the truth to be.
For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine.
Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great
number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 2 Timothy 4:3
Here is how it adds up.
Not many of you should become teachers.
But, today we must deal with...
Will gather around them a great number of teachers.
Satan has had plenty of time to learn how to screw up the works, and has organized his own fake news network in many churches
with all kinds of misleading doctrines. Doctrines designed to appeal to subjective human preference and desire by manipulating Scripture to make something appear to be real when it's false.
That is why we read....
For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine.
Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great
number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 2 Timothy 4:3
grace and peace .....
K
keepingthingsreal
Guest
Why would earthly parents procreate and have children knowing that their children may choose to be evil and go to hell?
Very little accurate interpretation/learning is taking place, unless you are an exceptional disciple-learner.
I agree that there seems to be too few of both these days.
In my own case, I was a sponge who soaked up what I learned by reading/studying GW thrice
before getting boosts by hearing Wm. Hendricks, R.B. Thieme & B. Gothard about the same time circa 1978-82.
God's plan today still provides for those who desire sound doctrine.
Thieme is as good as alive today... and free of charge. https://www.rbthieme.org/PDF/LessonListingForWeb2014.pdf