Cancer treatment choices

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Zandar

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The research community is monopolized by big pharma.
Those who have researched and tested anything natural have been murdered or attacked in various ways by their hired mercs, lawyers and appointments.

I don't know about your country, but the USA doesn't allow cures.
The cancer industry makes faaaar more $ in research grants (taxes) and donations from the public.
They have no jurisdiction to make money using the gifts that Jesus made for our benefits, so they stifle the information and demonize all of it.
The cancer industry has utterly contempt for human lives.
So very true.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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I'm more than a little disappointed.
The second day he's in office, he appoints Oracle, Open AI, Sam Altman to begin Stargate by stealing half a trillion, that's $500 X Billion (999 million) dollars to continue operation Warped "Mind" to ki// even more innocent people with a so called Cancer Vaccine with the same damned mRNA poisons that he led.
For crying out loud!

If you want to skip to the meat of it begin at the 38:38 Mark.
 

Zandar

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I'm more than a little disappointed.
The second day he's in office, he appoints Oracle, Open AI, Sam Altman to begin Stargate by stealing half a trillion, that's $500 X Billion (999 million) dollars to continue operation Warped "Mind" to ki// even more innocent people with a so called Cancer Vaccine with the same damned mRNA poisons that he led.
For crying out loud!

If you want to skip to the meat of it begin at the 38:38 Mark.
Stargate is a money funneling scheme for sure.
 

Zandar

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In 1977, Caisse sold her Essiac formula and trademark rights to Respirin Corporation (a Canadian company and
predecessor in title to Essiac Products Inc.), which attempted to commercialize the product. However, the
company was unable to show any efficacy of Essiac against cancer. Repeated laboratory tests showed that
Essiac failed to slow tumor growth and, in large doses, killed test animals. In a number of studies, Essiac
actually increased the rate of cancer growth. As a result, both the U.S. and Canadian governments refused
to approve Essiac as a medical treatment. Essiac was instead marketed by Essiac Products Inc. and others
as a dietary supplement, subject to much looser regulation and not required to show any proof of effectiveness.

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Magenta, I don't mean any disrespect. You looked up this info, and I appreciate you. But I've seen too much. You can't trust these people. No hard feelings. You seem like a good person and an intelligent person. Anyway, I'm sorry if I offend anyone. Forgive me.
 

Magenta

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Magenta, I don't mean any disrespect. You looked up this info, and I appreciate you. But I've seen too much. You can't trust these people. No hard feelings. You seem like a good person and an intelligent person. Anyway, I'm sorry if I offend anyone. Forgive me.
There is nothing to forgive! I know the pharmaceutical industry bleeds people dry and kills a lot of people
who take their meds responsibly, but the herbal and supplemental alternative meds' industry is not free of
corruption, overpricing, and false claims either. Anyway, I did not mean to offend with what I said about Essiac.
Have you tried it? I have tried quite a few herbal this and thats and can't really say I know if any of them did
what they claimed they were supposed to do. Of all the thousands and thousands of dollars I have spent on
alternative healing methods including supplements (mostly), there are really only two that do what I know
they are supposed to" Niacin and cranberry powder. I also know my blood pressure meds work LOL. And hey,
I think you are a pretty cool dude. And you have a very funny favourite verse! Haha. :giggle:
 

HealthAndHappiness

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There is nothing to forgive! I know the pharmaceutical industry bleeds people dry and kills a lot of people
who take their meds responsibly, but the herbal and supplemental alternative meds' industry is not free of
corruption, overpricing, and false claims either. Anyway, I did not mean to offend with what I said about Essiac.
Have you tried it? I have tried quite a few herbal this and thats and can't really say I know if any of them did
what they claimed they were supposed to do. Of all the thousands and thousands of dollars I have spent on
alternative healing methods including supplements (mostly), there are really only two that do what I know
they are supposed to" Niacin and cranberry powder. I also know my blood pressure meds work LOL. And hey,
I think you are a pretty cool dude. And you have a very funny favourite verse! Haha. :giggle:


I agree that there are a lot of claims by supplement manufacturers that need to be held accountable. These days most are sources from China and even western sources should be evaluated.
I wrote a company asking for their third party report on purity and the country of origin of their supplement when I was able to buy it.

The FDA has little to say about supplements other than that there's a US disclaimer that's required and they sometimes go after claims.. Example, " Vitamin C Prevents Scurvy."
They've chosen to attack Mennonites for Raw milk and other atrocities, rather than run simple tests for us.
Besides, the FDA is more corrupt than anything, so they are USAmerica's hire to make sure the pharmaceutical companies make as much money as possible.

I would like to see more independent labs that have no financial interest in a supplement company evaluate periodic samples of all supplements from popular companies. The cost is surprisingly not high: Then publish results in online publications.

Have you watched the documentary that I posted before, Cancer, Forbidden Cures? It's the one that covers Esiac and around half a dozen other cancer treatments.
I'd like to hear more about those supplements that worked for you sometime.
 

Suze

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I am reading books about documented cases of people who successfully decided to try natural ways to get well from even the most serious types of cancer. Some did it completely through diet and lifestyle changes, some through a combination of conventionally recommended chemotherapy and such.

I am reading that chemotherapy, though often very successful, causes damage to the body and a lot to the immune system. Factors like this do need thought. So much suffering is caused by it's side effects, but of course it has it's place in treatment.


Of course it is entirely individual choice as each patient has their own opinion over what to do with doctors recommendations. Yet there ARE cases of complete recovery from cancer by entirely natural means of supporting one's immune system. It is a brave choice and some people are successful in finding the key to unlocking their own ability to heal. This is so interesting as I think it is not really an area of great research. Doctors tend to dismiss rare completely natural remissions.

I wonder if anyone here has an opinion or experience or knowledge of someone recovering without medical help?
Do keep in mind I am merely curious, not telling anyone what to do and certainly not seeking arguments. Cancer is so common now and is very scary, it is best to know we have a choice over how to tackle it.
One book I am reading is 'Cancer: Survivors Stories: They did it. You can too,' by Jonathan Chamberlain.

Another is Remarkable Recovery by Caryle Hirshberg. Also The Cancer Survivors Club by Chris Geiger.

The cases in these books are inspirational and often very moving, about very brave patients who knew first hand what it is to face serious illness.
I am reading books about documented cases of people who successfully decided to try natural ways to get well from even the most serious types of cancer. Some did it completely through diet and lifestyle changes, some through a combination of conventionally recommended chemotherapy and such.

I am reading that chemotherapy, though often very successful, causes damage to the body and a lot to the immune system. Factors like this do need thought. So much suffering is caused by it's side effects, but of course it has it's place in treatment.


Of course it is entirely individual choice as each patient has their own opinion over what to do with doctors recommendations. Yet there ARE cases of complete recovery from cancer by entirely natural means of supporting one's immune system. It is a brave choice and some people are successful in finding the key to unlocking their own ability to heal. This is so interesting as I think it is not really an area of great research. Doctors tend to dismiss rare completely natural remissions.

I wonder if anyone here has an opinion or experience or knowledge of someone recovering without medical help?
Do keep in mind I am merely curious, not telling anyone what to do and certainly not seeking arguments. Cancer is so common now and is very scary, it is best to know we have a choice over how to tackle it.
One book I am reading is 'Cancer: Survivors Stories: They did it. You can too,' by Jonathan Chamberlain.

Another is Remarkable Recovery by Caryle Hirshberg. Also The Cancer Survivors Club by Chris Geiger.

The cases in these books are inspirational and often very moving, about very brave patients who knew first hand what it is to face serious illness.
I am reading books about documented cases of people who successfully decided to try natural ways to get well from even the most serious types of cancer. Some did it completely through diet and lifestyle changes, some through a combination of conventionally recommended chemotherapy and such.

I am reading that chemotherapy, though often very successful, causes damage to the body and a lot to the immune system. Factors like this do need thought. So much suffering is caused by it's side effects, but of course it has it's place in treatment.


Of course it is entirely individual choice as each patient has their own opinion over what to do with doctors recommendations. Yet there ARE cases of complete recovery from cancer by entirely natural means of supporting one's immune system. It is a brave choice and some people are successful in finding the key to unlocking their own ability to heal. This is so interesting as I think it is not really an area of great research. Doctors tend to dismiss rare completely natural remissions.

I wonder if anyone here has an opinion or experience or knowledge of someone recovering without medical help?
Do keep in mind I am merely curious, not telling anyone what to do and certainly not seeking arguments. Cancer is so common now and is very scary, it is best to know we have a choice over how to tackle it.
One book I am reading is 'Cancer: Survivors Stories: They did it. You can too,' by Jonathan Chamberlain.

Another is Remarkable Recovery by Caryle Hirshberg. Also The Cancer Survivors Club by Chris Geiger.

The cases in these books are inspirational and often very moving, about very brave patients who knew first hand what it is to face serious illness.
In the autumn of 2014 I was diagnosed with stage four breast cancer , I had 3 tumours in my left breast , one of which was less than 1mm from my rib . That was basically a death sentence , without treatment I wouldn't b here now . I didn't have the money or indeed the time ( very aggressive fast progressing cancer ) to spend researching natural cures and then paying for them . We have the NHS in UK which means treatment is free , paid for by a special tax called national insurance . The calming message I received was ' do what the doctors tell you ' do that's what I did . Left mastectomy followed by 6 chemotherapies and 15 radiotherapy sessions and if course , plenty of prayers . Thanks to God for permitting us these medical treatments .
Each to their own of course but I would recommend doing as your doctor tells u .
My beloved uncle Donald has prostate cancer that is now also in his bones . He has refused chemotherapy etc but is still allowing doctors to monitor his illness . He's taking massive doses of Vit D and a few other supliments that he heard about on u tube and his friend went to India to buy for him . It's costing him a fortune but , he looks good and says he feels good . It's his choice , let's all b thankful that we do in fact have choices when so many people don't have any access to any kind of treatments . Thanks to God for life ❤️ .