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lrs68

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The idea that the gifts ceased in the 1st century is a very new one.

https://biblehub.com/commentaries/1_corinthians/13-10.htm

Even all the commentaries from the not-so early church agree with us. They agree: the gifts cease when the Lord returns.
Exactly. But the key is looking at who created this myth. The Reformed attack Free Will with Tulip and the Gifts with a completed Bible. Anyone who has read the Bible cover to cover at least 3 times can see that doctrine has more holes in it than Swiss Cheese.
 

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This is the final message of mercy to earth’s inhabitants, 1) it calls on man to worship the creator “7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.”

This sounds like the Sabbath commandment doesn’t it?
No, it doesn't mention keeping the sabbath.
 

lrs68

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To those who have had prayers answered by a message by the spirit of the Lord.

Was it a scripture saying?
13 When the Spirit of truth comes, uhe will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.
 

lrs68

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The prophecy I got was, the worlds last chance is coming.
I believe it means a revival.
When the Spirit of truth comes, uhe will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.
 

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Just to add on to the point of this prophecy of revival the greek and hebrew meaning and word for revival is regeneration renewed life and returning to how things were now on the hebrew calandar God's calandar it is the year 5785 you look up the biblical meaning of this year and you get this

In the Hebrew calendar, the year 5785 is often interpreted as a year of "breath," "revelation," and "space," signifying a time for renewal, spiritual growth, and stepping into a place of freedom and grace, with the letter "Hei" (the numerical value of 5) being particularly significant in this interpretation; it is considered a time to "behold" and receive God's blessings fully
just thought that was kind of interesting
 

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I hope it comes true. This will be the first prophecy I get to bring to the church. I know I was not the only one given this.
 

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We know the revival is this year, but not how long it's going to take place. It might last long long time.
 

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Well? Did you get anything for me? Cause I need a breakthrough with God.
We all want breakthroughs, we all need to learn patience. Learning to wait on God's timing, although hard at times, is the only way to life.

Isaiah 40:31
But those who wait on the Lord Shall renew their strength; They shall mount up with wings like eagles, They shall run and not be weary, They shall walk and not faint.

My thoughts and prayers are with you. :)
 

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No, it doesn't mention keeping the sabbath.
Would you say that the Sabbath Day was strongly implied?
Here are the verses in question again, the comparison is between Rev. 14:7 and Exo. 20:11.


This is the final message of mercy to earth’s inhabitants, 1) it calls on man to worship the creator “7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.”

[Exo 20:8-11 KJV] 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day [is] the sabbath of the LORD thy God: [in it] thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that [is] within thy gates: 11 For [in] six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them [is], and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

This is the account provided concerning the actions of Jesus, the creator on the first Sabbath Day in the world’ history, please see John’s accounts of the creation below.

[Gen 2:1-3 KJV] 1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.


[Jhn 1:1-5 KJV] 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

[Jhn 1:1-5, 10-14 KJV] 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. ... 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
 
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Exactly. But the key is looking at who created this myth. The Reformed attack Free Will with Tulip and the Gifts with a completed Bible. Anyone who has read the Bible cover to cover at least 3 times can see that doctrine has more holes in it than Swiss Cheese.
Strangely enough, there are reformed people who believe in the continuation of the gifts, such as Sam Storms
 

Blain

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I have been trying to find where in scripture it speaks of the gifts but each verse I find I cannot find where it says they will end before the end of time the only way to make it say that is for the bible to be completed not all things completed so the finnished/completed has to either mean the competion of all things aka God's design and plan or the bible itself but the gifts are for the edifying of the believers so it must mean the end of all things
 

Blain

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We have to consider what the gifts are for before we consider when they end
 

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We have to consider what the gifts are for before we consider when they end
They were for "this people".....The Jews. When the Jews ultimately rejected their Messiah. He went to the Gentiles.....the signs and wonders ceased for the Jews and His word and the mind of Christ replaced them.
 

Blain

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They were for "this people".....The Jews. When the Jews ultimately rejected their Messiah. He went to the Gentiles.....the signs and wonders ceased for the Jews and His word and the mind of Christ replaced them.
but don't christians operate in the gifts of the spirit today? are we not also to walk in them to be fruitful?
 

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I have been trying to find where in scripture it speaks of the gifts but each verse I find I cannot find where it says they will end before the end of time the only way to make it say that is for the bible to be completed not all things completed so the finnished/completed has to either mean the competion of all things aka God's design and plan or the bible itself but the gifts are for the edifying of the believers so it must mean the end of all things
I can't remember very well, but I do remember something about, god never taking away he's gifts from us. When he gives us something, he never takes it away again.
 

Blain

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the gifts are as follows
  • Wisdom: A gift of the Spirit
  • Knowledge: A gift of the Spirit
  • Faith: A gift of the Spirit
  • Healing: A gift of the Spirit
  • Miracles: A gift of the Spirit
  • Prophecy: A gift of the Spirit
  • Discerning of spirits: A gift of the Spirit
    • Speaking in tongues: A gift of the Spirit
    • Interpretation of tongues: A gift of the Spirit
so some of these are things we should have and are even told to not prevent such as wisdom or prophecy these are not the same as signs and wonders and even prophecy is said to be desired after I cannot imagine wisdom would be taken or ended
 
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I have been trying to find where in scripture it speaks of the gifts but each verse I find I cannot find where it says they will end before the end of time the only way to make it say that is for the bible to be completed not all things completed so the finnished/completed has to either mean the competion of all things aka God's design and plan or the bible itself but the gifts are for the edifying of the believers so it must mean the end of all things
You gotta really stretch the meaning and eisegete the text to make the verse say "Until the Bible canon is completed"
No one reading the Bible would come to that conclusion *unless* you have preconceived ideas you want to insert and read into the text.
 

Blain

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You gotta really stretch the meaning and eisegete the text to make the verse say "Until the Bible canon is completed"
No one reading the Bible would come to that conclusion *unless* you have preconceived ideas you want to insert and read into the text.
Right that is kind of what I was thinking I try to keep an open mind but you really have to try hard to make it say that, plus nowhere else in scripture that I can find does it remotely say that