Can't wait for the tribulation to start

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Sanders said:
Here is an interesting (and very short) article to read (if you like). Have a beautiful day with Jesus (Jesus is so beautiful!) My emotions could not have said that yesterday! Ugh.....(although He is always wonderful)

https://www.greatbiblestudy.com/the-end-times/christian-persecution-vs-tribulation/
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That article blew it from the outset. In other words, the coming tribulation is not God's wrath, but Satan's wrath.

Rev 12:7
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8
And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Rev 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Rev 12:10
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Rev 12:11
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Rev 12:12
Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Rev 12:13
And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
Rev 12:14
And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

When Satan is cast down to this earth, he will come down having great wrath because he will know that his time is short. This short time is a time, and times, and half a time, or 3 1/2 years, which is the actual length of the coming great tribulation, and it comes from the face of the serpent, and not from God.

Jesus told his disciples that they would have tribulation in this world, and he, unlike so many others today who profess to know him, knew what he was talking about.
 
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keepingthingsreal said:
That article blew it from the outset. In other words, the coming tribulation is not God's wrath, but Satan's wrath.

Rev 12:7
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8
And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Rev 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Rev 12:10
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Rev 12:11
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Rev 12:12
Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Rev 12:13
And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
Rev 12:14
And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

When Satan is cast down to this earth, he will come down having great wrath because he will know that his time is short. This short time is a time, and times, and half a time, or 3 1/2 years, which is the actual length of the coming great tribulation, and it comes from the face of the serpent, and not from God.

Jesus told his disciples that they would have tribulation in this world, and he, unlike so many others today who profess to know him, knew what he was talking about.
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BOY said:
On one hand ,Can't wait for the tribulation to start, so God can sort out the sheep From the goats, the good from the bad, the bad Christians from the good Christians. the just from the unjust.

I think he's going to turn things upside down. make the leadership of the Christian faith sweep the streets and clean up the dead bodies, where all the Christians at the bottom of the food chain, get to be the Kings and the priests.

Separate the fearful from the faithful the believers who are full of faith.

It's funny God always starts with his own people he's gonna clean us up first then after he's cleaned us up, he's gonna clean the world up.

All the leadership is worth today is to pass the milk bottle to the babes, the rest of it is so polluted it should be cast out and thrown to this swine. God will raise up his own leadership during the tribulation men and women of faith not men and women of fear like they are today.
False prophets have wriggled and wiggled themselves in to the Christian face making it impossible to find a decent Bunch That are not somehow polluted.

I deal with Christian leadership on a daily basis, it is full of fear and deceit and they think that's ok. Somehow they justify it to themselves thinking it's a part of God's plan unbelievable.
They're so desperate for it to be a pretribulation rapture that they hang on the tiniest threat of circumstantial evidence, to help justify in their hearts that they are right.
Maybe they're not ready to handle it so God has to send them strong delusion.
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You sound pretty down about things
 
Sanders said:
I am still learning and navigating all of this. :)
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I hear you. I am also thinking this. The devil is God's devil, he created him. So yes God permits what he permits. He is Sovereign over the entire universe. God uses the devil also to fulfill His good purposes. Our God is an awesome GOD!
(Rom. 8:28):D
 
@Sanders

In case you do not already know, you quoted me again in post #87 without giving a response to what you quoted.

Anyhow, I need to head out for a bit, so I will check back later.

Have a blessed day.
 
Regarding the tribulation. What is it? II Thess 2:3-4 and Rev 12:7-9 tells us that Satan will be thrown out of heaven and come to earth claiming to be God. That IS the tribulation. It is a test to see if you studied God's word to know that Satan will come first before Jesus claiming to be him. If you know he is a fake, you will stand and testify against him with the Holy Spirit speaking through you as foretold in Math 10:16-20.

If you are not aware that Satan comes first, you may fall away and worship him being deceived into thinking he is God. You either studied God's word to escape the tribulation knowing Satan comes first, thus you will not bow to him, or you have been led astray by false doctrines that will cause you to stumble. Understand, the first one taken in the field is taken by Satan in his role as Antichrist. The real Christ comes AFTER the deception of Satan at the trump of God, which is the 7th, or last trump
 
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keepingthingsreal said:
@Sanders

In case you do not already know, you quoted me again in post #87 without giving a response to what you quoted.

Anyhow, I need to head out for a bit, so I will check back later.

Have a blessed day.
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Sorry to be so dense but I am not understanding what I did incorrectly. I will look though and see if I can figure it out. :eek::eek::eek:
 
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