Tasted Death for every Man !

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Kroogz

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You have a very low regard for the saving efficacy of his Death.
You have a very, very,very, very low regard of the Lord Jesus Christs atonement and propitiation.

He atoned for ALL sin. The Father is TOTALLY and SUFFICIENTLY propitiated in the Sons life,death and resurrection for the sins of the WHOLE world................Just believe.

His death reconciled the WHOLE world to Himself.........all animals, all of nature,all of science, ALL OF EVERYTHING, including all humans.
 
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@Kroogz

You have a very, very,very, very low regard of the Lord Jesus Christs atonement and propitiation.
Actually you do, I say Christs death, atonement, and propitiation saved all for whom He tasted death for, and you dont, so now who has the low regard for those efficacious acts ?
 

Kroogz

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Actually you do, I say Christs death, atonement, and propitiation saved all for whom He tasted death for, and you dont, so now who has the low regard for those efficacious acts ?
This is what you lack......Justification. We are JUSTIFIED for believing in His life and work........PERSONAL belief.

Atonement, propitiated for ALL. Equal privilege, equal opportunity for ALL....Acts 16:31

JUSTIFIED for those who believe.
 
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I have no problem with Jn 6:53, but with the one who blasphemes Christ work
hmm OK i will just repeat this unanswered post:

if Christ commanded us to eat His flesh and i presented a syllogism between the nutritional value of eating a sandwich vs. the mere fact a sandwich exists....

not seeing the blasphemy dude.
perhaps you can give your definition of blasphemy, and we can compare that with scripture to see if it fits or not?
 
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Actually you do, I say Christs death, atonement, and propitiation saved all for whom He tasted death for, and you dont, so now who has the low regard for those efficacious acts ?
you seem to not be in agreement with anyone at all. but maybe you aren't comprehending what people are saying, and they likewise are not comprehending you.

perhaps it would help if you give a straight answer to this question:

if Christ died for someone but that person never believes in Him, hates Him, denies Him and rejects the gospel completely for their entire life,
does Christ's death alone still save them?
 

brightfame52

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By Death delivered from Death.

We know that Christ didnt taste Death for all individuals without exception since those He tasted Death for are by His Death delivered from Death and the fear of Death Heb 2:9,14-15

9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

15 And deliver them
who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.


Those who Christ tasted death for have been set free from the death the devil brought about ! 2
 

brightfame52

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This is what you lack......Justification. We are JUSTIFIED for believing in His life and work........PERSONAL belief.

Atonement, propitiated for ALL. Equal privilege, equal opportunity for ALL....Acts 16:31

JUSTIFIED for those who believe.
, I say Christs death, atonement, and propitiation saved all for whom He tasted death for, and you dont, so now who has the low regard for those efficacious acts ? See you deny Christs taste of death saved them He tasted it for, you reduce it to merely having given a chance or opportunity of getting saved.
 

brightfame52

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hmm OK i will just repeat this unanswered post:

if Christ commanded us to eat His flesh and i presented a syllogism between the nutritional value of eating a sandwich vs. the mere fact a sandwich exists....

not seeing the blasphemy dude.
perhaps you can give your definition of blasphemy, and we can compare that with scripture to see if it fits or not?
Again I have no problem with it, Christ death in Heb 2:9 brings all to glory for whom He suffered and died, thats salvation, Continue your blasphemy
 

brightfame52

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you seem to not be in agreement with anyone at all. but maybe you aren't comprehending what people are saying, and they likewise are not comprehending you.

perhaps it would help if you give a straight answer to this question:

if Christ died for someone but that person never believes in Him, hates Him, denies Him and rejects the gospel completely for their entire life,
does Christ's death alone still save them?
If someone dies in their sins hating Christ and remains in unbelief, then He didnt die for them, Those whom He tasted death for are saved from their sins and sinful ways and brought to Glory
 

brightfame52

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@brightfame52

what does scripture say?
is salvation by grace through faith?
or is salvation by death, apart from faith?
Christs saving death gives Faith, again His death brings them to Glory Heb 29-10

9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory,
to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.