Tasted Death for every Man !

[brightfame52]

nope.

that one believes

The ones He tasted death for will believe for that comes with taking them to Glory. The dying for them effects the believing in Him, they're inseparable

 

[brightfame52]

that not all will be resurrected to life does not contradict that He died for all.

He died for all the elect, the sheep

 

[brightfame52]

Context is the Hebrew people. He tasted death for all of them Indeed, he delivered many sons unto glory when he ascended. He set the captives free that were in Abraham’s bosom.

False, He tasted death for more ethnic groups than hebrew people, but for people of all sorts and tongues and nations., and it brings them to Glory, meaning saved them

 

[posthuman]

The ones He tasted death for will believe for that comes with taking them to Glory. The dying for them effects the believing in Him, they're inseparable

you're making the assumption that the mere fact of His dying for someone saves them.

if i make lunch for you, does that fill your belly?
no; you also have to eat it.

 

[brightfame52]

nope.

that one believes

The reason why any believe is because God gives them faith, and therefore it is called "the faith of God's elect" (Titus 1:1).

 

[brightfame52]

you're making the assumption that the mere fact of His dying for someone saves them.

if i make lunch for you, does that fill your belly?
no; you also have to eat it.

Its not an assumption, its a fact, His tasting death for them, or dying for them, brings them to Glory, thats saving them completely Heb 2:10

10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

 

[brightfame52]

you're making the assumption that the mere fact of His dying for someone saves them.

if i make lunch for you, does that fill your belly?
no; you also have to eat it.

If you are equating the sufferings and death of Christ to fixing a lunch for you, thats Blasphemous friend

 

[John146]

False, He tasted death for more ethnic groups than hebrew people, but for people of all sorts and tongues and nations., and it brings them to Glory, meaning saved them

Ultimately, he tasted death for every man, but the context is dealing with Israel.

 

[posthuman]

Its not an assumption, its a fact, His tasting death for them, or dying for them, brings them to Glory, thats saving them completely Heb 2:10

10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

this verse isn't saying what you are saying it says.

 

[posthuman]

If you are equating the sufferings and death of Christ to fixing a lunch for you, thats Blasphemous friend

you haven't understood what i wrote.

John 6:53​

Then Jesus said to them, ​

"Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you." ​

 

[brightfame52]

this verse isn't saying what you are saying it says.

Sure it is, you deny it, and cant see it and bless God for it !

 

[brightfame52]

you haven't understood what i wrote.

John 6:53​

Then Jesus said to them, ​

"Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you." ​

What you have posted sounds blasphemous to me friend.

 

[posthuman]

What you have posted sounds blasphemous to me friend.

John 6:53 sounded blasphemous to a lot of people, if you read the next couple of verses.

the point here is that Christ having died for the sins of "not only us (the elect) but also the whole world" does not mean universal salvation.
one must pick up the floating axe head, believe, and confess. His death is sufficient propitiation for all, but only effective for those who take hold of the gospel

 

[Aaron56]

Its not an assumption, its a fact, His tasting death for them, or dying for them, brings them to Glory, thats saving them completely Heb 2:10

10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

You have yet to deal with the 's' at the end of "suffering".

 

[brightfame52]

John 6:53 sounded blasphemous to a lot of people, if you read the next couple of verses.

the point here is that Christ having died for the sins of "not only us (the elect) but also the whole world" does not mean universal salvation.
one must pick up the floating axe head, believe, and confess. His death is sufficient propitiation for all, but only effective for those who take hold of the gospel

I have no problem with Jn 6:53, but with the one who blasphemes Christ work

 

[brightfame52]

You have yet to deal with the 's' at the end of "suffering".

What you mean, its in the text, death, His suffering culminated in His taste of death, which in consequence saved many unto glory Heb 2:9

But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

His suffering unto death caused Him to be a perfect Saviour, bringing them He died for to Glory, thats salvation, going to glory

 

[posthuman]

I have no problem with Jn 6:53, but with the one who blasphemes Christ work

if Christ commanded us to eat His flesh and i presented a syllogism between the nutritional value of eating a sandwich vs. the mere fact a sandwich exists....

not seeing the blasphemy dude.
perhaps you can give tour definition of blasphemy, and we can compare that with scripture to see if it fits or not?

 

[posthuman]

I have no problem with Jn 6:53, but with the one who blasphemes Christ work

... and i encourage you to read the rest of the post you quoted.

 

[brightfame52]

if Christ commanded us to eat His flesh and i presented a syllogism between the nutritional value of eating a sandwich vs. the mere fact a sandwich exists....

not seeing the blasphemy dude.
perhaps you can give tour definition of blasphemy, and we can compare that with scripture to see if it fits or not?

I have no problem with Jn 6:53, but with the one who blasphemes Christ work

 

[brightfame52]

... and i encourage you to read the rest of the post you quoted.

Aint changing nothing, the blasphemy has been spoken