Time is Everything

[homwardbound]

God brought forth a plan from creation involving 7000 years and those who say time is meaningless to the Lord are really foolish and lack so little understanding of scriptures.

Your thoughts!

therefore it has only been seven days
2 Peter 3:8
But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.

 

[Cameron143]

My post is a reference to Ezekiel 37 about the war we're possibly seeing develop now and how it will eventually lead to the second coming.

My personal library consist somewhere around 15,000 manuscripts.

How long is the forward of most books compared to the body of the work?

 

[Jimbone]

What happens the next 8 months coming is turmoil and chaos on the world sometime in 2025. The Tribulation will begin in September 2025

The one who will become the antichrist will make a covenant with many including Israel, but to do so I ask what happen to America?

So you're actually a date setting then? A dangerous game you're playing here friend. I don't know what God has or has not said to you, but I can say your September 2025 date for the beginning of the tribulation is wrong. Real wrong. You're a couple thousand years late. BTW there's no temple to desecrate and no way, according to Him, that a temple can even be built. Unless you can show me in scripture (that is closed BTW) where He commands people to build the 3rd temple, and would like to know the people he commands to build it.

Anyway that aside, you really shouldn't be playing with these things, I'll be here in September to see if I have to humble myself and eat these words, but you will be one in a LONG list of false prophets that have got this VERY wrong, to know something even Jesus said you don't know. Jesus told the people around Him that their generation would not pass before this took place. Don't set yourself up like this man, He also tells us not to set dates because no man knows the day. Is Jesus a liar, or are you right?

 

[GRACE_ambassador]

...dangerous game...September 2025 date for the beginning of the tribulation???...I'll be here in September to see if I have to humble myself and eat these words...

??? Another try, eh? So far as I can tell = 100 Failure Rate for All of the previous guessers, estimators, prognosticators, seers, time-tellers, and propheciers, Correct?

Highly doubtful that you will have to eat words, since, Biblically Jesus Himself Said:

"When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt​

Thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And He Said unto them,​

It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put​

in His Own Power." (Acts 1:6-7 AV)​

Oh When Oh When will we ever learn?

Amen.

 

[ocean]

God brought forth a plan from creation involving 7000 years and those who say time is meaningless to the Lord are really foolish and lack so little understanding of scriptures.

Your thoughts!

Perhaps understand the context in which people may make that statement. After all, the Bible does state that a thousand years is as one day for God.
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing: that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
II Peter 3:8

It seems to me, as God has no beginning and no end, that time constraints are for us mere mortals and not God. Calling people foolish may not be the best alternative to a different understanding.

 

[ocean]

I do about his coming. In real life i am very quiet and humble. When I talked to the Lord more than 4 decades ago I asked for the gift of prophecy concerning the rapture/resurrection but I needed to know everything. . It was precept upon precept, a little here, and a little there over these 4 decades. Unbelievable journey for most. But it did happen and am so sad for not one is even close to understanding

In real life

I am getting the impression that you might think you have somehow solved the biblical equation of the millennia. Frankly, if I gave thought to understanding what scripture states regarding the above, I might ask for wisdom and understanding of what is written since what is written is already prophetic.

But that's just me I guess. (Introspectively examines nails to determine if they need a trim)

 

[ocean]

If the tribulation does not begin in September of 2025...
are you willing to apologize to everyone?

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[GRACE_ambassador]

100 Failure Rate

Ooops: 100 % Failure Rate

 

[Aaron56]

So you're actually a date setting then? A dangerous game you're playing here friend. I don't know what God has or has not said to you, but I can say your September 2025 date for the beginning of the tribulation is wrong. Real wrong. You're a couple thousand years late. BTW there's no temple to desecrate and no way, according to Him, that a temple can even be built. Unless you can show me in scripture (that is closed BTW) where He commands people to build the 3rd temple, and would like to know the people he commands to build it.

Anyway that aside, you really shouldn't be playing with these things, I'll be here in September to see if I have to humble myself and eat these words, but you will be one in a LONG list of false prophets that have got this VERY wrong, to know something even Jesus said you don't know. Jesus told the people around Him that their generation would not pass before this took place. Don't set yourself up like this man, He also tells us not to set dates because no man knows the day. Is Jesus a liar, or are you right?

@Jimbone

When Jesus spoke the words you are referencing He did not know that Day. Now that He has ascended to the Father and all authority was given to Him, He now knows the Day. But the question remains: has He made the day known to men?

I believe the saints will know the Day but I don't believe they currently know the Day. We certainly won't have enough lead time to make a mini-series or a best-settling book about it but we will know.

Consider, also, that the Lord said "No one knows..." Present tense. Like "No one currently knows".

“But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only."

Notice He said not man > the angels > the Son... only the Father.

Then, after all authority in heaven and on earth was given to Him, He revealed this to John:

"The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servant things which must shortly take place. And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant John..."

So, here the order is reversed: Father > Son > angels > man (John)

The Son knows the Day now. We WILL know the day, just as those in the light are not overtaken by the thief, when the Son reveals it to all who believe.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

When Peter stood up and spoke on Pentecost he quoted the prophet Joel but he changed one scripture.

Joel sad------Great and Terrible Day of the Lord

Peter said ---Great and Glorious Day of the Lord

How can it be both? Because there are two great events on this Day. The Day of these events will happen on Pentecost. The New Covenant started on Pentecost after a 50 day delay. On this day the church will be taken on Pentecost in the resurrection /rapture after 2000 years, and the unrighteous will be thrown into the Bowl Judgements.

Peter didn't change anything. He quoted from the LXX verbatim

The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and glorious day of the Lord come. Joel 2:31​

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[lrs68]

How long is the forward of most books compared to the body of the work?

A page or 2 or roughly 800 to 1,200 words.
Why?

 

[Cameron143]

A page or 2 or roughly 800 to 1,200 words.
Why?

God spent at least 4000 years setting up the coming of Christ and the new and eternal covenant. Why would He do that and only spend half that time reaping the benefits of all that He had established?

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

God spent at least 4000 years setting up the coming of Christ and the new and eternal covenant. Why would He do that and only spend half that time reaping the benefits of all that He had established?

It has been longer than any other dispensation, but there's no need to continue with it once the temple is complete

 

[Cameron143]

It has been longer than any other dispensation, but there's no need to continue with it once the temple is complete

There is in scripture a gradualism. Just as God gradually allowed the effects of sin to move slowly forward, so now to is God restoring all things. The kingdoms of this world will become the kingdoms of our God and of His Christ. And glory will be filled with a number that no man can number from every nation, tribe, kindred, and tongue.

 

[Cameron143]

It has been longer than any other dispensation, but there's no need to continue with it once the temple is complete

The reason I shared this is because in our time, as to some degree in every generation, there is a faction that see the coming of the Lord as imminent. In our time this seems to be the consensus, though scripturally an argument can be made otherwise, in my opinion.

 

[lrs68]

God spent at least 4000 years setting up the coming of Christ and the new and eternal covenant. Why would He do that and only spend half that time reaping the benefits of all that He had established?

The first thousand+ (years) years roughly ended with the Flood of Noah so there was Judgement.
After that within a couple Generations we had another Judgement with the Tower of Babel and within a Generation after that the Judgement of Sodom.

Then God spent roughly 2 Generations bringing His people to Egypt who spent 5 Generations before being led to the Wilderness waiting for the next Generation to enter into the Promised Land.

What's interesting is now we have roughly a 2,000 year period before Christ and we are at another 2,000 year period after Christ.

It's all in how we look at the past in order to define it.

But here we are at the cusp of the Ezekiel War that will lead to a 7 year Peace Treaty and the Second Coming of Yeshua. And the one thing that announced this time point was the re-established Nation of Israel. Now we are at the end of the One Generation Daniel alluded to. So even though we cannot say it will be this specific day. We can say the Bible makes this claim so we actually are not as clueless as some try to imply.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

But here we are at the cusp of the Ezekiel War that will lead to a 7 year Peace Treaty and the Second Coming of Yeshua. And one thing that announced this time point was the re-established Nation of Israel. Now we are at the end of the One Generation Daniel alluded to. So even though we cannot say it will be this specific day. We can say the Bible makes this claim so we actually are not as clueless as some try to imply.

A really skewed understanding that confuses people. Revelation makes clear that the Gog/Magog war happens 1000 years after Christ returns. It has nothing to do with today. The army that descends upon the land of Israel in the end time before Christ's return comes from the east, not the north where the Gog/Magog horde comes from.

 

[lrs68]

A really skewed understanding that confuses people. Revelation is clear that the Gog/Magog war happens 1000 years after Christ returns. It has nothing to do with today. The army that descends upon the land of Israel in the end time before Christ's return comes from the east, not the north where the Gog/Magog horde comes from.

I am not discussing the Gog/Magog war.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

I am not discussing the Gog/Magog war.

But you mentioned the Ezekiel war. Does that not mean Gog and Magog?

 

[lrs68]

But you mentioned the Ezekiel war. Does that not mean Gog and Magog?

Reread 37-39