Understanding God’s election

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HeIsHere

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The reason I use Chat GPT is because Chat GPT is excellent at reading, i.e., the literal reading of the text.

If someone's interpretation of the text rather than the literal reading of the text. Causes debate and
division; then that interpretation may be erroneous.

I have seen far too many interpretations being deployed on Christian Forums.

As far as I am concerned maxwell; Chat GPT has limitations but does an excellent job. In that plain reading
of the text and that's why I use it.
Chat GPT is a very useful, I find that you have to learn how to work with it so it accesses what you are looking for, I have seen people who have a subscription and use it and it can be very impressive time saver.

It does very well at organizing information.
Like anything else it is a tool and a useful one at that!
 

Rufus

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Chat GPT is a very useful, I find that you have to learn how to work with it so it accesses what you are looking for, I have seen people who have a subscription and use it and it can be very impressive time saver.

It does very well at organizing information.
Like anything else it is a tool and a useful one at that!
A "tool" that can never replace personal, careful, diligent, responsible, meticulous bible study and research, as I just proved by critically critiquing the "context- minded" article re Rom 8:29. :rolleyes:
 

Magenta

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Wow! God actually makes the DIFFERENCE!? That's heresy in FWT!
In the man-made traditions of free-will theology, many Biblical Truths are overlooked, ignored, swept aside, and
outright denied. We get told that universal axioms do not apply and that God's Word does not mean what it says.
 

Genez

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God predestined all men to be placed under the power of grace (to momentarily free up volition) for times of He requires for men to decide whom we shall accept.

No one shall be with excuse.



The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness
and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since
what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain
to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal
power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what
has been made, so that people are without excuse.
For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him,
but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they
claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for
images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.
Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity
for the degrading of their bodies with one another.
Romans 1:18-24​


God made it plain to them....
Unbelievers will be without excuse.

.........
 

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Chat GPT is a very useful, I find that you have to learn how to work with it so it accesses what you are looking for, I have seen people who have a subscription and use it and it can be very impressive time saver.

It does very well at organizing information.
Like anything else it is a tool and a useful one at that!
A powerful tool for accessing information in an instant.
 

Inquisitor

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A "tool" that can never replace personal, careful, diligent, responsible, meticulous bible study and research, as I just proved by critically critiquing the "context- minded" article re Rom 8:29. :rolleyes:
I wonder how many Christians do that?

"that can never replace personal, careful, diligent, responsible, meticulous bible study and research"
 

Inquisitor

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What do you have that you have not received of God?
I received a knowledge of Calvinism and I don't think that was from God.

1 Timothy 1:5
But the goal of our instruction is love from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith.

If the goal of the Christian life is agape love; I think that excludes theology in general.
 

Cameron143

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I received a knowledge of Calvinism and I don't think that was from God.

1 Timothy 1:5
But the goal of our instruction is love from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith.

If the goal of the Christian life is agape love; I think that excludes theology in general.
I don't think you understand reformed thinking at all. Does knowledge imply understanding?
 

HeIsHere

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I received a knowledge of Calvinism and I don't think that was from God.

1 Timothy 1:5
But the goal of our instruction is love from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith.

If the goal of the Christian life is agape love; I think that excludes theology in general.
Playbook 1
"Script for the Reformed"
Page 32, Paragraph 2, Line 3

It is important to state this frequently, "I don't think you understand reformed thinking at all."
 
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In the man-made traditions of free-will theology, many Biblical Truths are overlooked, ignored, swept aside, and
outright denied. We get told that universal axioms do not apply and that God's Word does not mean what it says.
Not to mention they must have to ignore Ephesians completely, or redefine every part of it. Sit down and read all of Ephesians and tell me there's any room for man to say he plays ANY part in salvation. The whole Bible rejects this, but you can't read Ephesians and teach what the CDSC (Calvinist Derangement Syndrome Cult) teach. So not only do they not listen nor interact with what is actually being said, not only do they falsely label others solely to cause division based on nothing but what they say, not only do they attack beliefs that I've never even seen 1 person on this site try to teach, again for no other reason than to puff up self and pretend they're doing God's work, but they have to completely ignore entire books in the Bible, or deny them completely, to hold the false teachings they push.

It's mind blowing to think a brother or sister could act this way to another believer, even if they are wrong about something, a true believer wants to come beside and help them to see the problem. Not make up a problem and accuse others of believing it even when they tell you as clearly as they can that they do NOT believe what you decree they do. The sad thing here is all evidence leads me to believe that there's a good reason we see no fruit of the Spirit coming from them, it fit's with these Christianity 101 truths baffling them as well, like original sin. The things of the Spirit seem to fly over their heads, as big as they are. They want to bring God lower and lift men higher. Put that all together and it makes me pray for their souls. I don't say this lightly as they do when saying we aren't saved, but when I look at the evidence in truth I fear for their souls.