Slain in the spirit?

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Blain based on what you said that is "slain in the spirit" and no those words like Rapture are not in the bible
Caught up is in the Bible ---

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The Greek word for "caught up" is harpagēsometha (ἁρπαγησόμεθα), which is the verb form of harpazō (ἁρπάζω). Harpazō is a verb that means "to seize, snatch, take away by force". It is used in the Bible in 1 Thessalonians 4:17, Acts 8:39, 2 Corinthians 12:2–4, and Revelation 12:5. In the Bible, "caught up" means "raptured".

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Slain in the bible means your dead ---or injured ---butchered -as I posted above
 
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Being Slain in the Spirit is a Man Made Tradition -----and man made Traditions come from Satan
Shouldn’t there be some care granted concerning man's traditions as the Apostle's themselves had traditions we are advised to follow? And you have maintained true to one “self-control” which he expressed. While my own opinion remains much the same, but in the simple defense against this reputation that has occurred Churchwide that challenges it (SC) yet I'm not against the potential for the indiscriminate occurrence such as deliverance or healings. That position isn’t a type of letting SC slip, but in the spirit of withholding “doubtful disputations” when pressing needs arise.
 

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Blain based on what you said that is "slain in the spirit" and no those words like Rapture are not in the bible. John.. as soon as He said I am He they fell backwards to the ground. They drew back and fell to the ground. Depends on what original text, translator said. yeah odd this is not being talked about. How it was originally written is not the same by many Scholars. This thread is a great example of why I can never just be me. People say things like deception and its of Satan and oh you just say word of faith.. never makes you mad just hurts.. Read last week by Christians "they are scum of the earth".. me.. . The words He spoke conveyed such power of His deity they His enemies "fell to the ground". So that poor young girl being some how deceived by the enemy? Not sure how in this case but.. about 12 all praying.. in one accord to GOD in this school one night and the leader happen to open his eyes noticed one girl just fall backwards. So runs over asks if she's ok. She said.. I looked at the doors and Jesus just walked in and that's all she remembered.

Seems when God shows up.. I guess you can only fall forwards? Yeah silly. Its not about the falling..its not about you or me its always about Him. What do you care if they fall or not? They don't answer to you or me. Hagin is was not deceived.. I really don't have to say anything the man is in heaven and look how believers still talk about faith preachers. Not telling us "if I get it wrong tell me I will repent and get it right". Its on youtube. Or how he never after 60 years in the Ministery never asked for money when he went to another Church to preach. Be believed he was there to serve them. He never talked about one other preacher like they do him. See I don't care about what doctrine some preacher got wrong.. I want to know do they believe Christ came in the flesh died on the Cross for the worlds in was buried rose the 3rd day is the only way to the Father. As Christ said to one preacher asking Him why He has not judge this man :) with fire and brimestone (his words). Christ said "oh but do you know all the good he does for me".

Next time someone talks about about another preacher ask them "what good does he/she do for Christ". What is shocking is .. how many don't care. They want to only focus on the sin and show you how right they are in what they believe. Truth does not hurt that is not written truth sets you free. We have GOD in us.. and since Christ found me.. He has never once shown me the sin someone else is doing unless He wanted me to pray for them. See He knows He can trust me to say nothing evil but will pray for them. man I don't want people to talk about me behind my back when the can call email write come to me. Yeah its no love. Love does not see faults. Every exposed video I have ever seen.. not one asked anyone to be praying for them. Less then a hand full in the comments ask or says just "I will be praying for them"

You find those that know Christ.. they will know you are mine by your love one for another. HAHA as if.. anything I can say will change anyone. GOD does it.. not me saying it. We really need to get over our selfs and when we come together we speak word of life.. we sing YES SING to the lord and speak psalms. We lift up each other.
I know that feeling about not being able to be you and people just resorting to sin or evil or demonic I admit this was a new experience for me and a powerful one at that so I knew if I asked about it here I would get frew good responses I don't claim that it is over scripture but I specifically asked in this threead for help with that but it is mainly assumed to be demonic instead of looking at the fruits of the experience but I am just a liar if I say it was the holy spirit as if I don't know him or his voice it is demonic to people

It brought me closer to God not further from him what I don't understand is what it was ecactly because it very well could be slain in the spirit but the spirit also took over my body when I allowed him to that was interesting but I wasn't acting like a wild animal or foaming at the mouth no seizure like symptoms either just life electricity flowing through me
 
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Shouldn’t there be some care granted concerning man's traditions as the Apostle's themselves had traditions we are advised to follow? And you have maintained true to one “self-control” which he expressed. While my own opinion remains much the same, but in the simple defense against this reputation that has occurred Churchwide that challenges it (SC) yet I'm not against the potential for the indiscriminate occurrence such as deliverance or healings. That position isn’t a type of letting SC slip, but in the spirit of withholding “doubtful disputations” when pressing needs arise.

Don;t know if this is what your meaning ---but found this


What is apostolic tradition?
https://www.gotquestions.org/apostolic-tradition.html

The phrase apostolic tradition is not found in the Bible, but the term is used to refer to the teachings of the apostles passed down to the church. According to the Roman Catholic Church, apostolic tradition is “the transmission of the message of Christ, brought about from the very beginnings of Christianity by means of preaching, bearing witness, institutions, worship, and inspired writings. The apostles transmitted all they received from Christ and learned from the Holy Spirit to their successors, the bishops, and through them to all generations until the end of the world” (Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church). Among Catholics, apostolic tradition is seen as a special revelation of God, distinct from the written Word, that the apostles passed down to the early church. It is an authoritative supplement to Scripture.

Second Thessalonians 2:15 mentions “tradition” in some translations: “Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle” (KJV). The NIV simply says “teachings.” Paul cites both his oral teaching and his written epistles as authoritative for the church. There is nothing here, though, that would suggest apostolic succession or a lasting body of oral tradition distinct from the written Word. Paul, who had been teaching for many years before he wrote any epistle, is simply saying that his previous instructions delivered in Thessalonica were to be followed, as were those contained in his first letter to them. In other words, Paul is saying, “Hold fast to what I directly taught, whether I said it when I was with you, or wrote it after I left.” What Paul had taught the Thessalonian church can all be found in the Bible. There is nothing in 2 Thessalonians 2:15 that teaches acceptance of indirect teaching “traditionally” attributed to the apostles.

Likewise, when Paul instructed Timothy to pass his teaching on to others, he was not referring to an oral transmission of tradition to be passed on during the early church period. Here is what he said: “You have heard me teach things that have been confirmed by many reliable witnesses. Now teach these truths to other trustworthy people who will be able to pass them on to others” (2 Timothy 2:2, NLT). The truths Paul taught refer to the teachings that can now be found in the corpus of his writings, which occupy 13 of the 27 books of the New Testament.

Although Christian creeds and the writings of the early church fathers do have value and can be used as secondary sources in studying biblical issues, the Bible alone is the only authority in a Christian’s life. Men like Irenaeus and Origen provide insight into the teachings of the early church, but their writings are not inspired and sometimes even contain faulty theology. In contrast, Scripture contains what the apostles explicitly passed down for the instruction and teaching of the church (1 Corinthians 15:3–4; 2 Timothy 3:16–17; 2 Peter 1:16, 20–21). We do not need an oral tradition passed down through the first few centuries of church history.

Despite the belief of the Catholic Church, the authoritative teachings of the apostles are found solely in Scripture, not in apostolic tradition. Christians do not have to turn to early church writings to read and interpret the Bible.
Reading creeds and the works of people like Papias or Clement of Rome can be insightful, but such works should not be viewed as authoritative in setting a Christian’s faith and doctrine.
 

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I know that feeling about not being able to be you and people just resorting to sin or evil or demonic I admit this was a new experience for me and a powerful one at that so I knew if I asked about it here I would get frew good responses I don't claim that it is over scripture but I specifically asked in this threead for help with that but it is mainly assumed to be demonic instead of looking at the fruits of the experience but I am just a liar if I say it was the holy spirit as if I don't know him or his voice it is demonic to people

It brought me closer to God not further from him what I don't understand is what it was ecactly because it very well could be slain in the spirit but the spirit also took over my body when I allowed him to that was interesting but I wasn't acting like a wild animal or foaming at the mouth no seizure like symptoms either just life electricity flowing through me
NOWHERE IN THE BIBLE when a person was walking in God, living by Godly standards, reading the Holy Word of God on a regular basis, have a constant prayer life was Satan ever able to knock that person down.

These posts about your experience not being found in the Bible is flat out ridiculous because those who attack and mock aren't able to show you in the Bible where Satan could do that to you when you are saved and full of the Holy Spirit.

The Bible says to forgive these opposers so God can heap coals upon them.

Btw, none of them have been able to share how God has been in their presence to the point they reacted like Daniel, John, 3 disciples at the Transfiguration. Kind of makes you understand why just reading their true thoughts.
 

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I know that feeling about not being able to be you and people just resorting to sin or evil or demonic I admit this was a new experience for me and a powerful one at that so I knew if I asked about it here I would get frew good responses I don't claim that it is over scripture but I specifically asked in this threead for help with that but it is mainly assumed to be demonic instead of looking at the fruits of the experience but I am just a liar if I say it was the holy spirit as if I don't know him or his voice it is demonic to people

It brought me closer to God not further from him what I don't understand is what it was ecactly because it very well could be slain in the spirit but the spirit also took over my body when I allowed him to that was interesting but I wasn't acting like a wild animal or foaming at the mouth no seizure like symptoms either just life electricity flowing through me
Blain, what I don't understand is how, on the one hand, you claim to have a close and special relationship with the Lord; and a special relationship with the Holy Spirit. But on the other hand, every time you have some new experience you come here looking for confirmation, or an explanation. Can't He confirm to you the truth Himself?
 

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It's days are numbered

And a reed like a rod was given to me saying "Arise and measure the temple of GOD, the altar, and the ones worshiping in it. And cast outside the court outside of the temple. And you may not measure her because she is given to the nations. And they will tread the holy city forty-two months." Revelation 11:1-2
I wish I understood what this has to do with it? Can you explain to me friend.
 
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I wish I understood what this has to do with it? Can you explain to me friend.
As I read it, those who are worshipers in name only (ie outside in the court rather than in the temple) will be turned over to the nations for judgment. I think the Jerusalem it is referring to is the Jerusalem above, ie the truth, that will be tread underfoot. I'm not saying the below verses pertain to that, but am just showing how that language is used elsewhere.

And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them. Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down. And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered. Daniel 8:10-12
 
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interesting read ----and I so agree with what is being said here ---FOLKS

“Slain in the Spirit" What Do the Scriptures Teach? Rev. R. Cameron-Smith

It is agreed that God is sovereign, and that at times He works in unusual ways. At times the Holy Spirit has often worked in wondrous and unexpected ways.

However, to adopt and systematize a certain practice not even mentioned in the Bible, claiming it to be a sovereign act of the Holy Spirit is totally wrong. Being slain in the Spirit is totally wrong.

Being slain in the Spirit is very much through human influence and effort, with the preacher creating the right atmosphere and having his helpers ready to catch those who fall backward. It is not something that the Spirit does sovereignly outside the control and direction of man.

Probably the most serious and dangerous aspect of being slain in the Spirit is not only that it is unscriptural, but it is anti-scriptural. The practice of falling backwards and of becoming unconscious is totally contrary to the plain teachings of the Word of God.

It was the devil who cast men down, not the Lord Jesus (Mark 9:20). He raised them up again.

No one in scripture ever became unconscious as a result of the operations of the Holy Spirit. When the Holy Spirit works in our hearts He does not bypass our minds and intellects, but He enlightens and teaches, thus making the Lord Jesus known to us through His Word.

The experience of being slain in the Spirit is one that in its nature and content is contrary to the way that God has revealed He works in our hearts. He does not cast us into some unconscious state, and then without any knowledge on our part fill us with His Spirit.

God works in us according to our nature which He has given us. He makes us alive to Him and causes us to see His ways, to know His truth, to understand His Word, to love, obey and to trust in Him

How does any person then have an experience which they believe is being slain in the Spirit?
Such an experience to them is often very real and dramatic.


There are several factors involved which make an experience which is thought to be of the Spirit possible to men.

a) There is the atmosphere created in the service.

Preachers create an emotionally charged atmosphere through excitement, music and other means. This experience would not take place without the right atmosphere.

The experiences appealed to in the Bible all took place in situations which were without emotion and mass hysteria.

b) There is the expectation of the person coming for that experience.

Their emotions must be sufficiently stirred and aroused so that they are cooperating with the spirit of the meeting.

c) There is the influence of the speaker.

Preachers who practice being slain in the Spirit, have learned how to create the right atmosphere, to break down any resistance in the minds of the hearers, and lead them into a state of passivity, that they might receive this so-called slaying.
 

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Don;t know if this is what your meaning ---but found this, , "
Sure. Upon the basis of our literal call to conduct ourselves "decently and in order" with "self control" to set out and try to establish a precedence to welcome a conduct removed from these is surely in opposition to God's will.

On the other hand, ", ,"the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty" , if there was a deliverance that happened to occur with something resembling the OP, IMO, that would surely be in a different light. That would be out of need of the ministry and not an established protocol.
 

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Blain, what I don't understand is how, on the one hand, you claim to have a close and special relationship with the Lord; and a special relationship with the Holy Spirit. But on the other hand, every time you have some new experience you come here looking for confirmation, or an explanation. Can't He confirm to you the truth Himself?
not always no sometimes I need help from more experienced people
 

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not always no sometimes I need help from more experienced people
When we have some type of experience that in our past we deemed unreliable we tend to overthink and seek out like believers to discover if they have had a similar situation.
It's only natural.
In fact, Paul wrote that he spent time with Peter listening to his experiences with Jesus to confirm his own reasoning and beliefs.
So if Paul got confirmation from like believers then you seeking the same is a good thing.
 
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not always no sometimes I need help from more experienced people
Blain
But you seem to refuse the Truth and help and want to cling to a False Truth and others who say they have had the same experience as you did -----there have been many here telling you that this you experienced is not from God but you still cling to the falsehood that maybe it is from God --and on top of that---- trying to use Scripture to cling to your point ---

You say your a True Christian but yet are confused about your experience ---- The Holy Spirit would have convicted your wrong thinking --and you would have known that this was not from God ---and ran from there ---

Your playing the field as far as I can see ---like a Carnal Christian --one foot in the physical world and one in the Spiritual World ---and that is not what a Mature Christian will want to do --

in other words your a Luke warm Christian ----and God says he spits you out of his mouth if you are Lukewarm --warning here ---




You are either a true Christian or your a False Christian -----there is no inbetween ----

Jesus said your either with me or against me ----there is no inbetween
 

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^

He wasn't even touched by the preacher and there was not people behind him. This just happened. How are you going to claim it's false when none of the set-up was in place? Blain went to the altar, the preacher reached toward him but never touched him, he went down, no one behind him to catch him like a scam would have been.

You clearly are so cold in your walk that you ignore facts to suit your personal viewpoints.
 

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Post #1: "she kept preaching seeing me walking to the stage and as soon as I got to the top she put her hands on my forehead and my body fell backwards but was caught by several people who began speaking tongues over me"
 

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You are either a true Christian or your a False Christian -----there is no inbetween
Man, you are coming down like a ton-of-bricks here without room to develop. Keep in mind what the man of God said, even though some do not progress as expected, they are still ''brethren'' under the His care (1Cor 3:1)
 

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I read the first paragraph and see the second is a different view.

Blain,

Are you full of the Holy Spirit?


If so, then Satan could never knock you off your feet.


Are you full of the Holy Spirit?
 
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Man, you are coming down like a ton-of-bricks here without room to develop.
this ia my quote in the post above -below ----
Your playing the field as far as I can see ---like a Carnal Christian --one foot in the physical world and one in the Spiritual World ---and that is not what a Mature Christian will want to do --
A carnal Christian is one who is on milk and need to advance to the meat of the Scripture ---and that takes time but the person has to be hungry and thirsty to want to mature ----Not all Christians want to mature to the Spiritual Man state ----many are just happy to be going to heaven ----so they stay in their Carnal state which is straddling the Fence ----one foot in this Physical World and one foot in the Spiritual world -----that is they are double minded and their faith Wavers -----which is what your seeing with him here ----confusion which is not from God ----Carnal thinking confuses people not God -----God is not the author of Confusion ----

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You win or loose the Battle of Confusion in your Mind -----


Just so you know
Blain has been addressing me by private e-mail here ---so you don't know what Blain has been saying to me privately ----so only he knows what the conversations are ---and this post is addressing some of what he has said to me in private ---what he is claiming to me in private is not what I an seeing here with him -in this thread -----
 

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Blain
But you seem to refuse the Truth and help and want to cling to a False Truth and others who say they have had the same experience as you did -----there have been many here telling you that this you experienced is not from God but you still cling to the falsehood that maybe it is from God --and on top of that---- trying to use Scripture to cling to your point ---

You say your a True Christian but yet are confused about your experience ---- The Holy Spirit would have convicted your wrong thinking --and you would have known that this was not from God ---and ran from there ---

Your playing the field as far as I can see ---like a Carnal Christian --one foot in the physical world and one in the Spiritual World ---and that is not what a Mature Christian will want to do --

in other words your a Luke warm Christian ----and God says he spits you out of his mouth if you are Lukewarm --warning here ---




You are either a true Christian or your a False Christian -----there is no inbetween ----

Jesus said your either with me or against me ----there is no inbetween
You can think what you want of me what matters is what Christ thinks of me