Fundamentalism and Particular Baptists

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Yep. Read. Listen. Things like this.

You could say: Seek. Find. Knock. Opened. Ask. Given.
And meditate upon the Lords answers.

You should try it sometime.

[Gen 24:63 KJV]
And Isaac went out to meditate in the field at the eventide: and he lifted up his eyes, and saw, and, behold, the camels [were] coming.

[Jos 1:8 KJV]
This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.

[Psa 1:2 KJV]
But his delight [is] in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.

[Psa 63:6 KJV]
When I remember thee upon my bed, [and] meditate on thee in the [night] watches.

[Psa 77:12 KJV]
I will meditate also of all thy work, and talk of thy doings.

[Psa 119:15 KJV]
I will meditate in thy precepts, and have respect unto thy ways.

But is any of that actually profiting you when you act like the devil?

 

[cv5]

But is any of that actually profiting you when you act like the devil?

Since when are Paul, John and Jude acting like devils when they call out false doctrine?
Come on buddy, just get real and seek the truth rather than avoiding it like the plague.

You will never regret it.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Since when are Paul, John and Jude acting like devils when they call out false doctrine?
Come on buddy, just get real and seek the truth rather than avoiding it like the plague.

You will never regret it.

Calling out false doctrine is one thing, but casting fiery darts at others while you converse among yourselves really doesn't accomplish that. Correcting others without the acrimony would go a long way towards you growing into the fullness of the stature of Christ, more than you being right about doctrine will.

 

[ParticularWife]

I have ignored much of the conversation up to this point because where I am considered a SBC Baptists....I'm not Calvinistic nor Arminian....I'm what is sometimes referred to as traditional Baptist. The Baptist church has often used Calvinists as workhorses for advancing the message so often that many think that Baptist is synonymous with Calvinism. (Clue: it is not)

Many, many US Baptist Churches directly descend from the Particular Baptists, who were indeed Calvinist, and Gill-Spurgeon regular Baptists, who are indeed Calvinists. That being said, the John Smith General Baptist tradition is quite old, and American Baptists have a wide variety of influence from outside Baptist and Reformed Churches. The Aminian Baptists are also semi-Calvinist: Arminius was a Reformed theologian.

The SBC is not explicitly Weslayen or Calvinistic, but allowed for either core either in church creed or individual believers. I'm fine with that. I've studied Reformed theology for years, I think Calvin is right, but I know plenty of General Baptists who believe in the same gospel I do. Theology is important, but its not the gospel.

 

[cv5]

Many, many US Baptist Churches directly descend from the Particular Baptists, who were indeed Calvinist, and Gill-Spurgeon regular Baptists, who are indeed Calvinists. That being said, the John Smith General Baptist tradition is quite old, and American Baptists have a wide variety of influence from outside Baptist and Reformed Churches. The Aminian Baptists are also semi-Calvinist: Arminius was a Reformed theologian.

The SBC is not explicitly Weslayen or Calvinistic, but allowed for either core either in church creed or individual believers. I'm fine with that. I've studied Reformed theology for years, I think Calvin is right, but I know plenty of General Baptists who believe in the same gospel I do. Theology is important, but its not the gospel.

Sounds awfully complicated.
Almost like it took on (cough cough) a life of its own.

 

[cv5]

Calling out false doctrine is one thing, but casting fiery darts at others while you converse among yourselves really doesn't accomplish that. Correcting others without the acrimony would go a long way towards you growing into the fullness of the stature of Christ, more than you being right about doctrine will.

Frankly I do not see a lot getting accomplished around here.
As for supposed acrimony, see John the Baptist and Jesus to see how it's done.

Sometimes you just have to call a spade a spade.

And I am quite sure that Satan himself is very polite when called upon. But I certainly would not trust a word he says.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Frankly I do not see a lot getting accomplished around here.
As for supposed acrimony, see John the Baptist and Jesus to see how it's done.

Sometimes you just have to call a spade a spade.

And I am quite sure that Satan himself is very polite when called upon. But I certainly would not trust a word he says.

It's one thing to speak strongly, but it's an entirely different matter when you focus on the person, which you do quite frequently, rather than on the particulars of the discussion

 

[ServantofMostHigh]

House divided will not stand

 

[cv5]

It's one thing to speak strongly, but it's an entirely different matter when you focus on the person, which you do quite frequently, rather than on the particulars of the discussion

Whatever I do has an objective. That being get the truth out there and get people listening to it.

Step number one is listen to those Adam lectures. THAT is the set up for the entire rest of the Bible. And take my word for it, actual free will is Gods intended design resoundingly demonstrated therein.

But hey if you CHOOSE to linger around here as a referee......who am I to deny your FREE WILL?

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Whatever I do has an objective. That being get the truth out there and get people listening to it.

Step number one is listen to those Adam lectures. THAT is the set up for the entire rest of the Bible. And take my word for it, actual free will is Gods intended design resoundingly demonstrated therein.

But hey if you CHOOSE to linger around here as a referee......who am I to deny your FREE WILL?

You're unamenable and self-righteous. Changing stations...

 

[ServantofMostHigh]

grace can I have a quick chat with you please?

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

grace can I have a quick chat with you please?

 

[ParticularWife]

Not sure why you hold this man in such high regard,

At the time of the Reformation, and before, many ideas known as Calvinist today were widespread. Calvin is generally regarded today as having the most consistent doctrine of Grace and systematic exposition for his time. But you could read Zwingli, Augustine and Luther and get to the same place. I read John Gill and Herman Hoeksema more than Calvin.

 

[cv5]

House divided will not stand

Against what? Authentic biblical doctrine?

 

[cv5]

Changing stations...

A lot of people around here need their diapers changed too.
Still drinking milk.

 

[studentoftheword]

Jesus said this



There is no Middle Ground -----you either believe God's word or you don't ----so your either a True Christian who literally takes God's word as it is -----as God Himself says His Word it Truth or you don't -



Or you're a False Christian ----a person who is using the Word Christian cause it feels good -----


You cannot say ---well I believe this piece of Scripture but not that piece of Scripture -----you either believe the Scriptures or you Don't -----

There is no Religion with God Folks -------there is no catholic ---baptise ----protestant ---united ---calvinist ---lutheran ----etc --etc ----these are all man made religions with all their own Doctrines and traditions ---

There is one God and One way and He says His word is truth -----so anyone who wants to argue with that ----Good luck to ya -----

Jesus Christ is the Word ---and His Religion is the Way -----the Truth and the Life ----cause without Christ in you your Doomed ----being a calvinist ---baptise --catholic ----etc will not help you get eternal life

 

[ServantofMostHigh]

Against what? Authentic biblical doctrine?

what good is the Scripture if all you want to do is prove people wrong and elevate your ego over doctrine, the scribes division the prophecies very well but they couldn't recognise our Saviour Scripture is ment to elevate the Heart into another level and when you do that differences don't matter any more....we want unity and Love not divisions over words

 

[ServantofMostHigh]

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hello shalom

 

[ServantofMostHigh]

Jesus said this

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There is no Middle Ground -----you either believe God's word or you don't ----so your either a True Christian who literally takes God's word as it is -----as God Himself says His Word it Truth or you don't -

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Or you're a False Christian ----a person who is using the Word Christian cause it feels good -----


You cannot say ---well I believe this piece of Scripture but not that piece of Scripture -----you either believe the Scriptures or you Don't -----

There is no Religion with God Folks -------there is no catholic ---baptise ----protestant ---united ---calvinist ---lutheran ----etc --etc ----these are all man made religions with all their own Doctrines and traditions ---

There is one God and One way and He says His word is truth -----so anyone who wants to argue with that ----Good luck to ya -----

Jesus Christ is the Word ---and His Religion is the Way -----the Truth and the Life ----cause without Christ in you your Doomed ----being a calvinist ---baptise --catholic ----etc will not help you get eternal life

here's how much you know ...sus in Latin means pig, so when you call Him jesus you are calling Him a pig...where is your knowledge then ?

 

[ServantofMostHigh]

here's how much you know ...sus in Latin means pig, so when you call Him jesus you are calling Him a pig...where is your knowledge then ?

His Name Is Yeshua, revere His Name