what I learned about oneness pentecostalism
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Whether I exist or not doesn't change anything, they're already condemned by all the saints official and sacred scriptures which all simultaneously support the trinity doctrine. This is why there is no real negotiation that can be made by them or for them by anyone to save their cult and also save their souls. They forsook God for the old heresy of modalism, that's on them. They can either have their heresy or they can have salvation, they can't have both though.
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Just because you don't like the truth about modalism doesn't mean I did not write what it is already and even told you what post and what sentence it is in. That's on you, not on me. Whether you take seriously what I say is of no consequence clearly since you are determined to intentionally blind yourself. Whether I were even born or not that would never change the truth that this particular cult holds the heresy of modalism as their central doctrine that defines them. Furthermore the heresy of modalism is a damnable heresy that the glorious faithful saints of Jesus have certified thousands of years before I was born as a heresy that is so damnable that it will lead one into the hellfire with a guarantee.
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I learned another new thing today, the Athanasian Creed...
Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith unless every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And the catholic faith is this: that we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the Essence. For there is one Person of the Father; another of the Son; and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all one; the Glory equal, the Majesty coeternal. Such as the Father is; such is the Son; and such is the Holy Ghost. The Father uncreated; the Son uncreated; and the Holy Ghost uncreated. The Father infinite; the Son infinite; and the Holy Ghost infinite. The Father eternal; the Son eternal; and the Holy Ghost eternal. And yet they are not three eternals; but one eternal. As also there are not three uncreated; nor three infinites, but one uncreated; and one infinite. So likewise the Father is Almighty; the Son Almighty; and the Holy Ghost Almighty. And yet they are not three Almighties; but one Almighty. So the Father is God; the Son is God; and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not three Gods; but one God. So likewise the Father is Lord; the Son Lord; and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not three Lords; but one Lord. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity; to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord; So are we forbidden by the catholic religion; to say, There are three Gods, or three Lords. The Father is made of none; neither created, nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone; not made, nor created; but begotten. The Holy Ghost is of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten; but proceeding. So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity none is before, or after another; none is greater, or less than another. But the whole three Persons are coeternal, and coequal. So that in all things, as aforesaid; the Unity in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity, is to be worshipped. He therefore that will be saved, let him thus think of the Trinity.
Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting salvation; that he also believe faithfully the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right Faith is, that we believe and confess; that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man; God, of the Substance [Essence] of the Father; begotten before the worlds; and Man, of the Substance [Essence] of his mother, born in the world. Perfect God; and perfect Man, of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father, as touching his Godhead; and inferior to the Father as touching his Manhood. Who although he is God and Man; yet he is not two, but one Christ. One; not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh; but by assumption of the Manhood into God. One altogether; not by confusion of Substance [Essence]; but by unity of Person. For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one man; so God and Man is one Christ; Who suffered for our salvation; descended into hell; rose again the third day from the dead. He ascended into heaven, he sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty, from whence he will come to judge the living and the dead. At whose coming all men will rise again with their bodies; And shall give account for their own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting; and they that have done evil, into everlasting fire. This is the catholic faith; which except a man believe truly and firmly, he cannot be saved.
I never knew this document existed or that people were using it as the basis for condemning other people to hell.-
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It is good to meditate upon the holy Athanasian Creed, for this shall make one wise and strong in both the sound doctrine of Christianity as well as able to easily identify virtually every major damnable heresy. May you be blessed to grow in wisdom towards our Lord Jesus Christ, amen.
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All throughout the Gospels Jesus said God is One. Jesus never said God is 3 in 1 which we believe. A scribe mentioned to Jesus that God is One and there's nothing equal to God. Jesus said you are close to the Kingdom of God. Jesus even said the Father and I are One.
What I am saying is the oneness quote factual scripture where us trinitarians add words to the Bible. We add words but going to say the oneness are wrong. Seems that only us trinitarians are the ones sinning while the Pentecostal oneness are quoting Scripture as it is literally written word for word.
Hypocrites, we are!
What I am saying is the oneness quote factual scripture where us trinitarians add words to the Bible. We add words but going to say the oneness are wrong. Seems that only us trinitarians are the ones sinning while the Pentecostal oneness are quoting Scripture as it is literally written word for word.
Hypocrites, we are!
No, you are incorrect. The Bible indicates the trinity doctrine in several places. The first three verses of the Bible, Genesis 1:1-3. the literal foundation of the Torah and of the entirety of scripture even indicates the trinity doctrine and fits well and is double-confirmed by John 1 which that whole chapter also indicates the trinity doctrine.
The Oneness cult is overtly modalism, and modalism is a heresy that will with all certainty get one sent to hellfire with a guarantee. In order to aggrandize their cult leadership and try to make them special they have taken to themselves a very well known and damnable heresy that perverts the scriptures and constitutes them worshipping a god of their own imagination. Furthermore their damnable doctrines are eeriy close to those of the Pharisees which even that alone should give any Christian pause since the doctrines of the Pharisees are specifically warned about by Jesus in the Bible and they killed Jesus for being the Son of God and a person of the trinity and thus co-equal with the Father in majesty.
The Oneness cult is overtly modalism, and modalism is a heresy that will with all certainty get one sent to hellfire with a guarantee. In order to aggrandize their cult leadership and try to make them special they have taken to themselves a very well known and damnable heresy that perverts the scriptures and constitutes them worshipping a god of their own imagination. Furthermore their damnable doctrines are eeriy close to those of the Pharisees which even that alone should give any Christian pause since the doctrines of the Pharisees are specifically warned about by Jesus in the Bible and they killed Jesus for being the Son of God and a person of the trinity and thus co-equal with the Father in majesty.
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Yea and Moses believed in the trinity doctrine clearly as Moses wrote Genesis 1:1-3. Just like the Pharisees will never escape damnation and cannot negotiate their way out of it by reason that they are in opposition to Moses whom has already condemned them, so likewise the Oneness cult for enjoining themselves to the heresy of modalism will never escape certain damnation by reason that they are in opposition to the faithful saints of Jesus Christ whom have already condemned them.
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If Moses believed in the Trinity then why is there no examples of it in the Jewish people throughout the entire Tanakh? No Jew believes it today and they still follow the teachings of Moses.
I try to get those I know to the many Calvary Chapel Churches throughout the USA so they at least hear it taught.
I try to get those I know to the many Calvary Chapel Churches throughout the USA so they at least hear it taught.
Well then see how right saint Stephen was when he told the Jews that they always resist the Holy Spirit just like their evil fathers before them did and they will certainly fill up the full measure of their fathers. They can be angry and gnash their teeth about why they were cut off the tree for their unbelief and how they are jealous even up to this very day of the Gentiles that were grafted into their place for believing in God, but it will change nothing.
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They did resist the Spirit of God indeed. No argument there. I am just saying what Jews believe from words of God to Moses who penned them.
But my first and foremost point in this thread is that the Oneness Pentecostals I know believe God is Father, Son, Holy Spirit (3 in 1) and Jesus being the WORD made flesh (begotten Son of God).
But my first and foremost point in this thread is that the Oneness Pentecostals I know believe God is Father, Son, Holy Spirit (3 in 1) and Jesus being the WORD made flesh (begotten Son of God).