Understanding God’s election
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And you are assuming again. If we go by your assumption then we should make the Book of Enoch inspired by God.
Perhaps and some like to self flagellate continually thinking it makes them holier.
Oh, come, now! Do you really expect them to accept this Scriptural truth??? (John 12:25)
Man did not think about God but the Bible clarifies that after the birth of Seth's son men began thinking about God without God instructing or intervening.
Imagine that, natural man, on his own merit and written as such in Genesis that man began to think about God.
Imagine that, natural man, on his own merit and written as such in Genesis that man began to think about God.
The Bible does not say God did not intervene. You make that part up. Assume it, read it into the text (etc) when it is not there.
One word. RIDICULOUS. Good Lord. There is no "paradox" in His salvation message to ALL OF MANKIND.
We are fallen. We Are without hope.........That is why He sent Himself to mankind.
And Because He is so much bigger than your theology.........You can't SEE that HE is for ALL of mankind.
And that is what Calvinism/reformed theology is......One great paradox for man......except for His SPECIAL little chosen ones.
I am like any other man, not special in myself, I just believed in Him.
I am just a believer like anybody else.........You're on a pedestal as one of the SPECIAL elect.
According to history Job took place after the Flood and scholars attribute both Job and Moses as the author of Job.
If this is true then Job had plenty of examples.
I never said God intervened or did not intervene which is the whole point I have been making.
Either way it is not there. You cannot say He did or that He did not according to the text, since it is silent on the issue.
We can say because in every other example it shows us God does present warning or instruction.
Anyone can profane what holy. Anyone can pervert what is good. Thus the principle stated in the admonition in Eccl 7:18 to avoid all extremes. Do you think Paul had good, mushy, flattering , self-aggrandizing, self-exalting feelings about himself when he struggled with sin (Rom 7:21-25)!? The more sensitive and pliable a believer's conscience is, the more he will loathe himself! But it appears you have never experienced this. Are you in perpetual feel good mode, as most of the religious elites of Jesus' day were?
Not true. In fact Scripture plainly states that the world could not hold
all the books that could be written concerning things God has done.
Paul obliterated the erroneous notion of free will in Romans 7, this is true!
Just more of Scripture that gets denied along with a plethora of other verses...
That was my point your god did set the limitations and created this fallen incapacitated human nature.
And if he did he is culpable no matter how much it is stated he is not, he created the fallen nature to be that way, it didn't happen by accident.
It must be accepted that the nature of fallen man as described by the doctrine you hold is what God created, it did come by on its own.
God did not think ...... "Oppsies how did that happen?"
This means that God is responsible for man's inabilities, his slavery to sin and the rest of the list because he created fallen man that way.
This dogma is so desperate to make mankind born incapacitated to believe it ultimately removes God's free will.
But the logical consequences are a bitter pill.
You will not be persuaded, but if you understood nuance you would know there is a big difference between being in control and controlling.
Great proof text! That one had actually slipped this old mind.
And, no, I don't unless God acts upon their minds and souls. Freewillers are too self-absorbed, too self-centered, too self-loving, too prideful, too self-aggrandizing and last but not least TOO SELF-RIGHTEOUS and Pharisaical to accept the passage.
Yes.... Eternally at ease and celibate without stress.
Or, more like boys and girls in elementary school could like the opposite sex, but not desire sexually.
Just happy to be in each other's company.
Yet! Still male and female.
And, it was just not "just like the angels."
Jesus specified which angels.
For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage but are like angels in heaven."
Matthew 22:30
Only God's angels are not given in marriage. For there is a love in heaven that is greater then anything
we can experience on earth.
In the mean while... Satan and his angels are riddled with lusts which resulted in perverse desire.
As seen in Genesis 6, angels were originally created to be able to sexually reproduce. Then denied.
First gay marriages originated with fallen angels craving to replicate the kind of relationship they craved
as they observed men and women involved in deep love.
They are extremely jealous of such marriages which they are unable to have. They hate good marriages.
So be it!