Applying God's Word to Politics
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With free speech, don't know how you'd get away with that. There are a lot of things that could/should be, but then it comes down to personal responsibility. Parent allow their children way to much freedom and time on the internet. I don't have kids but if I did, the computer would be in a room where the family always is, where I could keep an eye on what was being looked at. If they had a phone it would be locked in certain places. There would be a limit on time on social media. If I saw an addiction starting, it would be taken away from them completely and the entire family if it was needed. The gov't shouldn't be raising children.
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Yes, parents should monitor their children better, but I don't know how we would get away with banning poor parents either.
I think we might have a better chance of banning porn, but it would require a national discussion complete with scientific studies showing the harmful effects on individuals and what it costs society.
The Dems won't do it, but maybe the MAGA folks will make some progress in that regard. I wonder if RFK would consider it to be in his health lane?
I think we might have a better chance of banning porn, but it would require a national discussion complete with scientific studies showing the harmful effects on individuals and what it costs society.
The Dems won't do it, but maybe the MAGA folks will make some progress in that regard. I wonder if RFK would consider it to be in his health lane?
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At lot of this depends on your practical view of the world and your theology. I'm a postMil and was raised in theonomy. But I think pluralism is the intended state of men, at least since Babel, so I don't hold to the Mosaic universalism of Greg Bahnsen. I do believe in the use of politics (which means hierarchy and violence) by Christians.
I'm not a supporter of freedom of religion in the liberal sense, and think Christians need to be ready to create Covenant communities however we can. I don't mean some kind of popular uprising, because I believe in elite theory.
Our own personal decisions in our political context must be guided by Biblical morality and faith in God, of course, in not endorsing Soviet style ruthlessness, but I reject the idea of institutional neutrality: it's a lie liberals use to push their theocracy of porn and war.
I don't advocate for democracy, America (as in the USA as a pseudo-nation state which is a gay empire), or Boomer conservativism. Stone Choir, Academic Agent and Pete Quinones are closer to my views. I just don't believe in the things old Republicans do, and I think they will always lose.
I'm not a supporter of freedom of religion in the liberal sense, and think Christians need to be ready to create Covenant communities however we can. I don't mean some kind of popular uprising, because I believe in elite theory.
Our own personal decisions in our political context must be guided by Biblical morality and faith in God, of course, in not endorsing Soviet style ruthlessness, but I reject the idea of institutional neutrality: it's a lie liberals use to push their theocracy of porn and war.
I don't advocate for democracy, America (as in the USA as a pseudo-nation state which is a gay empire), or Boomer conservativism. Stone Choir, Academic Agent and Pete Quinones are closer to my views. I just don't believe in the things old Republicans do, and I think they will always lose.
I think America is a failing state that really needs to fail. I think populism is nonsense, I think Trump is a Boomer liberal who won't do what's necessary, I think the American system is flawed and obsolete, etc. I don't care about the Constitution or any of that stuff, this is about friends and enemies, not ideology or meritocracy. I not only think the USA cannot be fixed I think the world will be a better place when it's gone.
I frankly despise conservatism. It's an ideology of losers, which is why they always fail.
I frankly despise conservatism. It's an ideology of losers, which is why they always fail.
Oh daymn major. She just threw you a hand grenade.
I hope you got that spiritual armor on.
I hope you got that spiritual armor on.
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What I just articulated is pretty close to normal on the dissenting right, including old PaleoCons like Pat Buchanan and Sam Francis. We don't care about "classical liberalism" or the fantasies about America as a proposition nation. Nor are we wedded to old-style monarchist reactionary scheme. We view politics through a much more realist and anti-ideological lens.
To me, a Republican is someone who tries to argue with the left on their own terms. I reject their terms. I don't believe I need the consent of leftists. I don't think they should be allowed to speak in public or vote.
To me, a Republican is someone who tries to argue with the left on their own terms. I reject their terms. I don't believe I need the consent of leftists. I don't think they should be allowed to speak in public or vote.
1. Re "I think America is a failing state that really needs to fail.": Why?
2. Re "I think populism is nonsense": Why?
3. "I think Trump is a Boomer liberal who won't do what's necessary,": Why?
4. "I think the American system is flawed and obsolete, etc.": All people including us are flawed, but are we therefore obsolete?
5. "I don't care about the Constitution or any of that stuff,": Why?
6. "this is about friends and enemies, not ideology or meritocracy." What does that mean? Do friends not share our ideology?
7. "I not only think the USA cannot be fixed I think the world will be a better place when it's gone.": Why? What do you think will remain that will be better?
8. "I frankly despise conservatism. ": You despise much, but is there anything you love?
9. "It's an ideology of losers, which is why they always fail.": What is your definition of conservatism?
2. Re "I think populism is nonsense": Why?
3. "I think Trump is a Boomer liberal who won't do what's necessary,": Why?
4. "I think the American system is flawed and obsolete, etc.": All people including us are flawed, but are we therefore obsolete?
5. "I don't care about the Constitution or any of that stuff,": Why?
6. "this is about friends and enemies, not ideology or meritocracy." What does that mean? Do friends not share our ideology?
7. "I not only think the USA cannot be fixed I think the world will be a better place when it's gone.": Why? What do you think will remain that will be better?
8. "I frankly despise conservatism. ": You despise much, but is there anything you love?
9. "It's an ideology of losers, which is why they always fail.": What is your definition of conservatism?
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The simple solution is, "obey God rather than men." Christian beliefs and politics are two different realms- they should not be mixed.
Yes, we live under a political rule, but it is a worldly institution. The first century believers were not active in politics, but were required to live in this world without being a part of this world.
Our citizenship is in heaven.
We are to consume our thoughts with that which is above.
Yes, we live under a political rule, but it is a worldly institution. The first century believers were not active in politics, but were required to live in this world without being a part of this world.
Our citizenship is in heaven.
We are to consume our thoughts with that which is above.
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Scriptures supporting the application of GW to the political sphere of life or "mixing" include these from MT:
MT 5:13-16, “You are the salt of the earth… You are the light of the world… Let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven.”
MT6:9-13, “This is how you should pray: Our Father in heaven… your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven…”
MT 11:21-23, “Woe to you Korazin! Woe to you Bethsaida!… And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted up to the skies? No, you will go down to the depths.”
MT 13:24-43, “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field… his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat… Let both grow together until the harvest… As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. The Son of Man will send out his angels and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil… He who has ears, let him hear.”
MT 19:5, “A man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”
MT 19:18, “Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your parents and love your neighbor as yourself.”
MT 20:25-28, “The rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them. Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first must be your slave–just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve and to give his life as a ransom for many.”
MT 22:21, “Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.”
MT 23:37-38, “O Jerusalem, how often I have longed to gather your children together,… but you were not willing… Look, your house is left to you desolate.”
MT 24:7-9, “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom… Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me.”
MT 25:31-32, “When the Son of Man comes in his glory… All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.”
MT 26:55-55&64, “Am I leading a rebellion, that you have come out with swords and clubs to capture me?… This has taken place that the writings of the prophets might be fulfilled… In the future you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One.”
MT 5:13-16, “You are the salt of the earth… You are the light of the world… Let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven.”
MT6:9-13, “This is how you should pray: Our Father in heaven… your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven…”
MT 11:21-23, “Woe to you Korazin! Woe to you Bethsaida!… And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted up to the skies? No, you will go down to the depths.”
MT 13:24-43, “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field… his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat… Let both grow together until the harvest… As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. The Son of Man will send out his angels and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil… He who has ears, let him hear.”
MT 19:5, “A man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”
MT 19:18, “Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your parents and love your neighbor as yourself.”
MT 20:25-28, “The rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them. Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first must be your slave–just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve and to give his life as a ransom for many.”
MT 22:21, “Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.”
MT 23:37-38, “O Jerusalem, how often I have longed to gather your children together,… but you were not willing… Look, your house is left to you desolate.”
MT 24:7-9, “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom… Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me.”
MT 25:31-32, “When the Son of Man comes in his glory… All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.”
MT 26:55-55&64, “Am I leading a rebellion, that you have come out with swords and clubs to capture me?… This has taken place that the writings of the prophets might be fulfilled… In the future you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One.”
Those who govern "think" they have. Those who know the Father know better.
When Paul was taken prisoner, he back talked his interrogator, thinking he was but in they emply of the government, but when Paul realized it was the High Priest for that year, he apologized sayuing he was not aware of the High Priest's station.
That "law" commanding us to obey those who are in charge was in reference to the original and earthly Israel, not to just any human appointed politician or royalty.
My only true authority is the One called Jesus in English Christian, that is Yeshua the anointed of Yah.
The thought of directing my citizenship to any other than our King is appalling.
When Paul was taken prisoner, he back talked his interrogator, thinking he was but in they emply of the government, but when Paul realized it was the High Priest for that year, he apologized sayuing he was not aware of the High Priest's station.
That "law" commanding us to obey those who are in charge was in reference to the original and earthly Israel, not to just any human appointed politician or royalty.
My only true authority is the One called Jesus in English Christian, that is Yeshua the anointed of Yah.
The thought of directing my citizenship to any other than our King is appalling.
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The hypocrites asked Jesus Yeshua if they should pay taxes in a vain attempt to catch Him in His Words.
He knew their craftiness, and told them to render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and unto God what is God.
He also says elsewhere to pay the tax so as not to offends the collector(s). This does not say to obey Caesar nor the tax man, but to not offend.
Children understand.
He knew their craftiness, and told them to render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and unto God what is God.
He also says elsewhere to pay the tax so as not to offends the collector(s). This does not say to obey Caesar nor the tax man, but to not offend.
Children understand.
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