The Kerygma - God's Requirement for Salvation

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Dec 13, 2023
1,660
308
83
For what its worth here is a detailed study on Revelation and Daniel that I really enjoyed. It's long 112 videos but broken down in only 30 minutes each. If going through have your bible handy. Its structured as a bible study two pastors two lay people, but makes this amazing book easier to understand.

One thing to keep in mind Revelation is not written chronologically, its based on repeat and enlarge. One will get really lost if not following that pattern.

I would start at video 2 and skip the overview.

01 - “Overview of Revelation - Salvation in Symbols & Signs”
 

studier

Well-known member
Apr 18, 2024
1,197
233
63
What is God's requirement for salvation (GRFS)?
Foundationally having a belief there is God (Rom1):

NKJ 1 Corinthians 3:11 For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ (Jesus is the Christ)

NKJ 2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the solid foundation of God stands, having this seal: "The Lord knows those who are His," and "Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity unrighteousness."

In Acts13:16-41 we have a record of Paul evangelizing to Jews and God-fearing Gentiles. To make it clear what Paul means by "Christ" in Acts13:33 he references Psalm2. In Ps2 "YHWH's Messiah/Christ/Anointed" is YHWH's King who He has made King of kings to who He gives the earth as His inheritance. When we read "Christ" in the NT Writings we should automatically recall Ps2 to understand and explain what Christ means and who Jesus is. With this in mind it's pretty simple to use some basic logic and common sense to understand that belief that Jesus is the Christ the Son of God (also referenced in Ps2:7 and Acts13:33) the King of kings must include bowing the knee to Him in faithful obedience (which is Paul's self-described mission to the nations in Rom1:5 & 16:26). We can also see Paul being wholly absorbed with the message (or compelled by the Spirit depending on Greek manuscripts) to proclaim to the Jews that Jesus is the Christ.

The last clause in 2Tim2:19 stated as part of God's solid foundation and seal is a command to all of those who are "The Lord's" to depart/withdraw from/distance yourselves from/revolt from (apostatise from) unrighteousness (which is sin 1John5:17 and lawlessness 1John3:4 which the Lord hates Heb1:9).

The above Foundation is commanded by God in 1John3:23: Believe in the name of God's Son Jesus Christ and love one another as He commands.

Foundationally the message is pretty simple: Believe as commanded by God that Jesus is the Christ/King and live out your days in submission to His Absolute Rulership. And this lasting belief and lasting submission are biblically one and the same thing.
 

Eli1

Well-known member
Apr 5, 2022
5,018
2,175
113
46
IAWU with you Captain.
GJ on this whole thread. It's similar to MUOFB.

BTW the name Captain doesn't suit you because it's already taken.

We have Captain Obvious with travel commercials.
We got Captain Interesting with dos equis commercials.
And of course who can forget Captain Morgan the patron saint of all sailors out there.
 
Oct 19, 2024
1,858
449
83
Foundationally having a belief there is God (Rom1):

NKJ 1 Corinthians 3:11 For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ (Jesus is the Christ)

NKJ 2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the solid foundation of God stands, having this seal: "The Lord knows those who are His," and "Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity unrighteousness."

In Acts13:16-41 we have a record of Paul evangelizing to Jews and God-fearing Gentiles. To make it clear what Paul means by "Christ" in Acts13:33 he references Psalm2. In Ps2 "YHWH's Messiah/Christ/Anointed" is YHWH's King who He has made King of kings to who He gives the earth as His inheritance. When we read "Christ" in the NT Writings we should automatically recall Ps2 to understand and explain what Christ means and who Jesus is. With this in mind it's pretty simple to use some basic logic and common sense to understand that belief that Jesus is the Christ the Son of God (also referenced in Ps2:7 and Acts13:33) the King of kings must include bowing the knee to Him in faithful obedience (which is Paul's self-described mission to the nations in Rom1:5 & 16:26). We can also see Paul being wholly absorbed with the message (or compelled by the Spirit depending on Greek manuscripts) to proclaim to the Jews that Jesus is the Christ.

The last clause in 2Tim2:19 stated as part of God's solid foundation and seal is a command to all of those who are "The Lord's" to depart/withdraw from/distance yourselves from/revolt from (apostatise from) unrighteousness (which is sin 1John5:17 and lawlessness 1John3:4 which the Lord hates Heb1:9).

The above Foundation is commanded by God in 1John3:23: Believe in the name of God's Son Jesus Christ and love one another as He commands.

Foundationally the message is pretty simple: Believe as commanded by God that Jesus is the Christ/King and live out your days in submission to His Absolute Rulership. And this lasting belief and lasting submission are biblically one and the same thing.
Yep, I agree (simple enough for a child of about nine years old to understand :^)
 
Oct 19, 2024
1,858
449
83
IAWU with you Captain.
GJ on this whole thread. It's similar to MUOFB.

BTW the name Captain doesn't suit you because it's already taken.

We have Captain Obvious with travel commercials.
We got Captain Interesting with dos equis commercials.
And of course who can forget Captain Morgan the patron saint of all sailors out there.
Okay, you can call me major, then :^)
 
Oct 19, 2024
1,858
449
83
Pretty good job herding cats.
LOL! Thanks. It is indeed a job getting these CC cats to agree on GRFS or the essential Christian Creed, but I enjoy it, hoping we are answering the prayer of Jesus in JN 17 for oneness :^)
 

studier

Well-known member
Apr 18, 2024
1,197
233
63
LOL! Thanks. It is indeed a job getting these CC cats to agree on GRFS or the essential Christian Creed, but I enjoy it, hoping we are answering the prayer of Jesus in JN 17 for oneness :^)
Since it is such a job, is it truly your intention to host a forum on your site?