Famous lines

[wattie]

There are always popular one verse sayings that people bring up. Whether from just hearing it or opposing another view.

An example is Jesus saying 'the Father is greater than I'

Used by many to try to prove Jesus is not God.

Another is 'where two or three are gathered, there I am in the midst of them'

Used by many to say Jesus is with two or more believers in ANY situation.

Another is the classic 'faith without works is dead'

Used to say works are part of salvation or inevitably WILL happen for the believer.

The thing is these carry very different meanings to these when put in context.

So for eg.. 'the Father is greater than I'...

Jesus, not long after saying this, ascends to be one with the Father.

The difference was positional. Not that the Father is superior. Like if I said 'the Prime Minister is greater than me'..

He isn't superior. .he is in a greater position.

And for the 'where two or three are gathered....'

The context is two or three believers gathered to resolve sin issues with a fellow church member (matthew 18:18-20).. It's a New Testament update of the Old Testament practice of discipline with Israel gathered in the wilderness. (from Deuteronomy)

Jesus is 'in the midst' in other situations also..as a NT church is assembled.. but it doesnt apply to ANY situation where two or more believers gather.

And faith without works is dead has the context of how you profit your faith to benefit others...not the way you get saved.

What one line verses do you know that are misinterpreted?

 

[homwardbound]

There are always popular one verse sayings that people bring up. Whether from just hearing it or opposing another view.

An example is Jesus saying 'the Father is greater than I'

Used by many to try to prove Jesus is not God.

Another is 'where two or three are gathered, there I am in the midst of them'

Used by many to say Jesus is with two or more believers in ANY situation.

Another is the classic 'faith without works is dead'

Used to say works are part of salvation or inevitably WILL happen for the believer.

The thing is these carry very different meanings to these when put in context.

So for eg.. 'the Father is greater than I'...

Jesus, not long after saying this, ascends to be one with the Father.

The difference was positional. Not that the Father is superior. Like if I said 'the Prime Minister is greater than me'..

He isn't superior. .he is in a greater position.

And for the 'where two or three are gathered....'

The context is two or three believers gathered to resolve sin issues with a fellow church member (matthew 18:18-20).. It's a New Testament update of the Old Testament practice of discipline with Israel gathered in the wilderness. (from Deuteronomy)

Jesus is 'in the midst' in other situations also..as a NT church is assembled.. but it doesnt apply to ANY situation where two or more believers gather.

And faith without works is dead has the context of how you profit your faith to benefit others...not the way you get saved.

What one line verses do you know that are misinterpreted?

Therefore, read 25 verses before that verse and 25 verses after that verse, to get the context, and ask in trust to Father for the meaning, not fro any self gain over it, thanks

 

[GWH]

There are always popular one verse sayings that people bring up. Whether from just hearing it or opposing another view.

An example is Jesus saying 'the Father is greater than I'

Used by many to try to prove Jesus is not God.

Another is 'where two or three are gathered, there I am in the midst of them'

Used by many to say Jesus is with two or more believers in ANY situation.

Another is the classic 'faith without works is dead'

Used to say works are part of salvation or inevitably WILL happen for the believer.

The thing is these carry very different meanings to these when put in context.

So for eg.. 'the Father is greater than I'...

Jesus, not long after saying this, ascends to be one with the Father.

The difference was positional. Not that the Father is superior. Like if I said 'the Prime Minister is greater than me'..

He isn't superior. .he is in a greater position.

And for the 'where two or three are gathered....'

The context is two or three believers gathered to resolve sin issues with a fellow church member (matthew 18:18-20).. It's a New Testament update of the Old Testament practice of discipline with Israel gathered in the wilderness. (from Deuteronomy)

Jesus is 'in the midst' in other situations also..as a NT church is assembled.. but it doesnt apply to ANY situation where two or more believers gather.

And faith without works is dead has the context of how you profit your faith to benefit others...not the way you get saved.

What one line verses do you know that are misinterpreted?

RM 13:1, "Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God."

 

[Magenta]

Matthew 18:19-20 I tell you truly that if two of you on the earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by My Father in heaven. For where two or three gather together in My name, there am I with them.

 

[homwardbound]

Matthew 18:19-20 I tell you truly that if two of you on the earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by My Father in heaven. For where two or three gather together in My name, there am I with them.

Provided it be Father's will. Thinking on that, one asks fro things here and now, that might not be good for them in the long haul.
Does God allow that?
I think yes, when I see the person (Mom) ask fro her Son's to be at Jesus's right hand
Jesus asked her, them, do you want my Baptism? Yes I think was said
Wow, I see be careful what anyone asks for
I see, willingly and remain willing to go through any adversities, as I know I personally can never go through as much as Jesus did on his way to be crucified, which turned out the best for su all to believe he is risen and gives new life from Father to us to stand in, no matter what, at least for me
Thanks for the post again, on time as seeing always, not always listening being in a flesh body, unredeemed as of yet

• Matthew 20:20-21
  The mother of James and John asks Jesus to let her sons sit at his right and left in his kingdom. Jesus asks her if she can drink the cup he is about to drink from and be baptized with the baptism he is baptized with. She and her sons say yes, but Jesus tells her that the places at his right and left are not his to give.
• Mark 10:35-45
  James and John ask Jesus to do whatever they ask, including letting one of them sit at his right and the other at his left in his glory. Jesus tells them that they don't know what they are asking and that those places belong to those for whom they have been prepared.
  

In both instances, the request shows the disciples' ambition and lack of understanding of Jesus' mission. In the cultural context, the positions flanking a king were significant, indicating a desire for shared glory.

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  Matthew 20:20-21 New Living Translation (NLT) Then the mother of James and John, the sons of Zebedee, came to Jesus with her sons.
  
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[Magenta]

Provided it be Father's will.

Amen! .

 

[keepingthingsreal]

Jer 29:11
For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.

In context, this was spoken by the LORD to those who had gone into 70 years of Babylonian captivity. Many of them would die there, and this promise pertained to the survivors who would eventually return to Jerusalem after the 70 years of Babylonian captivity were accomplished. Nowadays, multitudes of people "claim it" as their favorite verse. In fact, in 2022, it was the second most searched verse of scripture online, with only John 3:16 surpassing it in searches.

https://www.biblestudytools.com/bib...0-most-searched-for-bible-verses-in-2022.html

 

[homwardbound]

Jer 29:11
For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.

In context, this was spoken by the LORD to those who had gone into 70 years of Babylonian captivity. Many of them would die there, and this promise pertained to the survivors who would eventually return to Jerusalem after the 70 years of Babylonian captivity were accomplished. Nowadays, multitudes of people "claim it" as their favorite verse. In fact, in 2022, it was the second most searched verse of scripture online, with only John 3:16 surpassing it in searches.

https://www.biblestudytools.com/bib...0-most-searched-for-bible-verses-in-2022.html

‘literally for real. Now with Son going to that cross once for all Heb 10:10
and as risen, new life is given. Wow, woe is me to have my lip purged from sin. God not counting sin against me anymore thanks to Son
i see that as unfathomable Love as in 1 Cor 13:4-7 as well as 2 Cor 12: 7-10 amazing gift that no physical flesh can understand
needs born new in God Spirit and Truth John 4:23-24 it is done for us by Son John19:30 where the new life is in the resurrection, the death one time only for reconciliation first, 2 Cor 5:17-20
God has always wanted what is best for-us all. Life everlasting, that can never be earned, only given and is in risen Son to me at least in thanksgiving and praise all sin now taken away as far as the east is from the west< how far is that? Psalm 103:12

 

[wattie]

Matthew 18:19-20 I tell you truly that if two of you on the earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by My Father in heaven. For where two or three gather together in My name, there am I with them.

notice Matthew 18 context:

Matthew 18:15-20 KJV - Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. 18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

Then to Deuteronomy :


Deuteronomy 19:15-19 KJV - 15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.
16 If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that which is wrong;
17 Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the LORD, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days;
18 And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother;
19 Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you.

 

[homwardbound]

notice Matthew 18 context:

Matthew 18:15-20 KJV - Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. 18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

Then to Deuteronomy :


Deuteronomy 19:15-19 KJV - 15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.
16 If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that which is wrong;
17 Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the LORD, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days;
18 And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother;
19 Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you.

And no one stood up for Jesus, no one. What makes one think one will today stand up. All are have sinned no one is innocent. Yet that passage gets used for whose gain? Just saying seeing Romans 2:1-4 God’s grace and we the people demanding people to not sin again. Wow. When whoever obeys 100 percent then that one can punish!
and I see Jesus let that woman go, and not accuse her, wow woe is me
how many times I myself have accused and excused, forgetting past sins remain today forgiven by God Father in risen Son.
‘when will we the failures in perfection get this amazing grace given and simply love as God does (1Cor 13:4-, 13)
woe is me, I am a failure under Law, I need God’s grace, anyone else?
watch out for the leaven of people wanting charge of others

 

[Inquisitor]

There are always popular one verse sayings that people bring up. Whether from just hearing it or opposing another view.

An example is Jesus saying 'the Father is greater than I'

Used by many to try to prove Jesus is not God.

Another is 'where two or three are gathered, there I am in the midst of them'

Used by many to say Jesus is with two or more believers in ANY situation.

Another is the classic 'faith without works is dead'

Used to say works are part of salvation or inevitably WILL happen for the believer.

The thing is these carry very different meanings to these when put in context.

So for eg.. 'the Father is greater than I'...

Jesus, not long after saying this, ascends to be one with the Father.

The difference was positional. Not that the Father is superior. Like if I said 'the Prime Minister is greater than me'..

He isn't superior. .he is in a greater position.

And for the 'where two or three are gathered....'

The context is two or three believers gathered to resolve sin issues with a fellow church member (matthew 18:18-20).. It's a New Testament update of the Old Testament practice of discipline with Israel gathered in the wilderness. (from Deuteronomy)

Jesus is 'in the midst' in other situations also..as a NT church is assembled.. but it doesnt apply to ANY situation where two or more believers gather.

And faith without works is dead has the context of how you profit your faith to benefit others...not the way you get saved.

What one line verses do you know that are misinterpreted?

Romans 3:31
Do we then nullify the Law through faith? Far from it! On the contrary, we establish the Law.

To justify legalism.

 

[Pasifika]

Romans 3:31
Do we then nullify the Law through faith? Far from it! On the contrary, we establish the Law.

To justify legalism.

The law of faith is what established the law of works.

 

[studentoftheword]

Scripture people get wrong by misconceptions -- or by ignorance

3 wise men came to bring gifts to Jesus ----

Mary Magdalene was a prostitute

The 3 gifts gold --frankincense and myrrh to Jesus were given at Jesus' birth

Money is evil -

God hates wealth

God uses sickness and disease to strengthen peoples character

Jesus was poor

Jesus was a socialist

You are not to judge anyone

 

[wattie]

Scripture people get wrong by misconceptions -- or by ignorance

3 wise men came to bring gifts to Jesus ----

Mary Magdalene was a prostitute

The 3 gifts gold --frankincense and myrrh to Jesus were given at Jesus' birth

Money is evil -

God hates wealth

God uses sickness and disease to strengthen peoples character

Jesus was poor

Jesus was a socialist

You are not to judge anyone

yea. . all popular..but lacking their time, place, audience, etc.. in the actual scripture they are related to.

 

[Leastofall]

The one verse that I've heard even from well known preachers that makes me cringe is found in Genesis.
That the creation God created was perfect. The garden and such.
God said it was good. Later on he said very good....not perfect.

This is why it bothers me so. If God's creation was perfect wouldn't it suggest that Satan had the power to corrupt even God's perfection?

The word is good later it states very good....I believe the Hebrew is tov = good.

 

[homwardbound]

Romans 3:31
Do we then nullify the Law through faith? Far from it! On the contrary, we establish the Law.

To justify legalism.

Not sure, that justifies legalism, why?
It allows me to go after others, that I see are doing wrong to tell them, to not do that or else God will get you attitudes of the first born person under Law. Did we not get put under Law from approximately age 2 forward
the first confrontation with authority, from our parents or our person in charge to grow us up.
Getting taught to obey through punishments, and responding some say okay others not so much. No real Love there is there? Yet we do all need to be together taught truth over error, do we not? Aren't we all here searching that out?
So, why not teach our children to become inner-dependent over independent?
Ourselves as well, God still speaks and lives within his children God has accepted, reconciled and given new life to see new in
Accepted, forgiven and sealed by God Eph 1:6-7,13 by God for us the kids to depend on God Phil 1:6, it is not there to be taken for granted as many do and have done, God remains faithful , we the people do not do that do we? God does and continues as I have seen deeply, widely and high. woe is me thank you God to us all for this love given us to respond to in Thanksgiving and praise