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No it didn't. Most Jews would have remained under the old covenant until the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in 70AD. Most didn't believe Jesus was the Messiah. Do you think they suddenly said we'll practice our religion but sorry guys, no more sacrifices? They most definitely did not.
I am curious, what do you believe would have caused them to stop practicing such a prominent part of their worship suddenly?
I am curious, what do you believe would have caused them to stop practicing such a prominent part of their worship suddenly?
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Not sure why Jews do what they do or think what they think... God will judge them.
But as a Christian I believe in following al of the Bible. Not just the NT.
Gal 3:17
And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
Gal 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
Gal 3:23-24
23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Which law ..... ? The one that was added because of sin,
The one that was added 430 years after the covenant was made.
Added till the seed should come.
Ordained by Angels, in the hand of a mediator.
Kept under this law until the faith was revealed.
The law that was a schoolmaster.
The law here is not the 10 commandments.
It was given by Christ directly
The moral law of God does not pass away.
And was in place from the start.
We have shown the difference between the cerimonial laws and moral law of God.
And the reason why the cerimonial law was nailed to the cross is because it had served it's purpose.
The true lamb had come.
We no longer need to offer sacrifices.
In Heb 9 after talking about the ordinances and worldly tabernacle, how it worked with the first covenant.....
Heb 9:1 Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.
Heb 9:9-10
9 Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; 10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
The figure the shadow or the schoolmaster is clearly the ordinances and cerimonial laws that pointed to Christ.
The 10 commandments are still standing today.
Rom 7:7-12 KJV 7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. .....12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
But as a Christian I believe in following al of the Bible. Not just the NT.
Gal 3:17
And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
Gal 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
Gal 3:23-24
23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Which law ..... ? The one that was added because of sin,
The one that was added 430 years after the covenant was made.
Added till the seed should come.
Ordained by Angels, in the hand of a mediator.
Kept under this law until the faith was revealed.
The law that was a schoolmaster.
The law here is not the 10 commandments.
It was given by Christ directly
The moral law of God does not pass away.
And was in place from the start.
We have shown the difference between the cerimonial laws and moral law of God.
And the reason why the cerimonial law was nailed to the cross is because it had served it's purpose.
The true lamb had come.
We no longer need to offer sacrifices.
In Heb 9 after talking about the ordinances and worldly tabernacle, how it worked with the first covenant.....
Heb 9:1 Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.
Heb 9:9-10
9 Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; 10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
The figure the shadow or the schoolmaster is clearly the ordinances and cerimonial laws that pointed to Christ.
The 10 commandments are still standing today.
Rom 7:7-12 KJV 7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. .....12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
Was Adam given the ten commandments or not?
Was Adam given the ten commandments and the penalties in Deuteronomy or not?
What has the judgement in Noah's time got to do with Adam's era?
Your quotations from Exodus demonstrate that Israel received the codified law but
Israel is not Adam.
You need to support your claim regarding Adam and the ten commandments.
Use the scripture please and stop making things up.
The evidence from the scripture only!
Was Adam given the ten commandments and the penalties in Deuteronomy or not?
What has the judgement in Noah's time got to do with Adam's era?
Your quotations from Exodus demonstrate that Israel received the codified law but
Israel is not Adam.
You need to support your claim regarding Adam and the ten commandments.
Use the scripture please and stop making things up.
The evidence from the scripture only!
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Jesus fulfilled the entire law.
That's when Jesus told you that the external observance of the sabbath would be
an eternal rest in His work.
The literal, written, 10 commandments, have been fulfilled and were never a means
of salvation or righteousness.
The answer to every question you ask is answered completely by the death and resurrection
of Jesus Christ.
Worship Jesus and not the law.
That's when Jesus told you that the external observance of the sabbath would be
an eternal rest in His work.
The literal, written, 10 commandments, have been fulfilled and were never a means
of salvation or righteousness.
The answer to every question you ask is answered completely by the death and resurrection
of Jesus Christ.
Worship Jesus and not the law.
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Do you deny that John gave us the commandment below.
1 John 3:23-24
This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another,
just as He commanded us. The one who keeps His commandments remains in Him, and He in him.
Where in 1 John does it say the '10 commandments'?
The gospel according to Paul is below.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Now I make known to you, brothers and sisters, the gospel which I preached to you, which you also received,
in which you also stand, by which you also are saved, if you hold firmly to the word which I preached to you,
unless you believed in vain. For I handed down to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ
died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He was raised
on the third day according to the Scriptures.
The gospel is not repentance, the sabbath, it is not church, it is not perfection.
The gospel is not holiness, love, or eschatology.
The gospel is the sacrifice offered up for us only.
In that we stand firmly and that is the gospel that Paul preached!
1 John 3:23-24
This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another,
just as He commanded us. The one who keeps His commandments remains in Him, and He in him.
Where in 1 John does it say the '10 commandments'?
The gospel according to Paul is below.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Now I make known to you, brothers and sisters, the gospel which I preached to you, which you also received,
in which you also stand, by which you also are saved, if you hold firmly to the word which I preached to you,
unless you believed in vain. For I handed down to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ
died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He was raised
on the third day according to the Scriptures.
The gospel is not repentance, the sabbath, it is not church, it is not perfection.
The gospel is not holiness, love, or eschatology.
The gospel is the sacrifice offered up for us only.
In that we stand firmly and that is the gospel that Paul preached!
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Here is your claim from post #3966
The law of God “codified” in the Ten Commandments, “ summarized” by Jesus in several Gospel accounts, has always existed.
So your saying Adam was under the law, the letter of the law, the book of the law, codified law as shown in Exodus!
As I asked previously, where is the evidence that Adam was given the ten commandments?
You cannot make claims unless you can support that claim.
The law of God “codified” in the Ten Commandments, “ summarized” by Jesus in several Gospel accounts, has always existed.
So your saying Adam was under the law, the letter of the law, the book of the law, codified law as shown in Exodus!
As I asked previously, where is the evidence that Adam was given the ten commandments?
You cannot make claims unless you can support that claim.
Here you go:
[Rom 5:12-21 KJV] 12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: 13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. 15 But not as the offence, so also [is] the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, [which is] by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. 16 And not as [it was] by one that sinned, [so is] the gift: for the judgment [was] by one to condemnation, but the free gift [is] of many offences unto justification. 17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) 18 Therefore as by the offence of one [judgment came] upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one [the free gift came] upon all men unto justification of life. 19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. 20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: 21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
[Rom 5:12-21 KJV] 12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: 13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. 15 But not as the offence, so also [is] the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, [which is] by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. 16 And not as [it was] by one that sinned, [so is] the gift: for the judgment [was] by one to condemnation, but the free gift [is] of many offences unto justification. 17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) 18 Therefore as by the offence of one [judgment came] upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one [the free gift came] upon all men unto justification of life. 19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. 20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: 21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
It was largely written by former Jews who no longer promoted all the laws they had previously been under.
From Acts 15:20 plus 28 Abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals, and from blood. It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond these essential requirements
From Acts 15:20 plus 28 Abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals, and from blood. It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond these essential requirements
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There was both a bloodline and a religion. The only writers not ethically Jews was Luke and in the Old Testament, Nebuchadnezzar:
Here is a sample from Daniel. 4
[Dan 4:1, 4, 13, 18, 22 KJV] 1 Nebuchadnezzar the king, unto all people, nations, and languages, that dwell in all the earth; Peace be multiplied unto you. ... 4 I Nebuchadnezzar was at rest in mine house, and flourishing in my palace: ... 13 I saw in the visions of my head upon my bed, and, behold, a watcher and an holy one came down from heaven; ... 18 This dream I king Nebuchadnezzar have seen. Now thou, O Belteshazzar, declare the interpretation thereof, forasmuch as all the wise [men] of my kingdom are not able to make known unto me the interpretation: but thou [art] able; for the spirit of the holy gods [is] in thee. ... 22 It [is] thou, O king, that art grown and become strong: for thy greatness is grown, and reacheth unto heaven, and thy dominion to the end of the earth.
Here is a sample from Daniel. 4
[Dan 4:1, 4, 13, 18, 22 KJV] 1 Nebuchadnezzar the king, unto all people, nations, and languages, that dwell in all the earth; Peace be multiplied unto you. ... 4 I Nebuchadnezzar was at rest in mine house, and flourishing in my palace: ... 13 I saw in the visions of my head upon my bed, and, behold, a watcher and an holy one came down from heaven; ... 18 This dream I king Nebuchadnezzar have seen. Now thou, O Belteshazzar, declare the interpretation thereof, forasmuch as all the wise [men] of my kingdom are not able to make known unto me the interpretation: but thou [art] able; for the spirit of the holy gods [is] in thee. ... 22 It [is] thou, O king, that art grown and become strong: for thy greatness is grown, and reacheth unto heaven, and thy dominion to the end of the earth.
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That was not the answer to the question I asked.
The quotation you provided stated that death, condemnation, sin, the offence of Adam, killed us all.
18 Therefore as by the offence of one [judgment came] upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one [the free gift came] upon all men unto justification of life. 19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
So by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous (the gospel).
But that does not say anything about the 10 commandments, the codified law (Exodus 20).
The question I asked was where in Genesis does it say that Adam received the codified law,
the ten commandments?
Your claim will fail without any evidence.
The quotation you provided stated that death, condemnation, sin, the offence of Adam, killed us all.
18 Therefore as by the offence of one [judgment came] upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one [the free gift came] upon all men unto justification of life. 19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
So by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous (the gospel).
But that does not say anything about the 10 commandments, the codified law (Exodus 20).
The question I asked was where in Genesis does it say that Adam received the codified law,
the ten commandments?
Your claim will fail without any evidence.
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