Moses said in Deuteronomy 5:2-3 specifically that the 10 commandments along with the rest of the Jewish jaw was NOT GIVEN TO THEIR FATHERS (past). He says it was only given to those who were alive that day—meaning the present congregation of Israel. You are teaching error and teachers will receive a greater condemnation from God because they can lead people astray with their false doctrine. The Bible is from God. You need to believe what it says.
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Moses said in Deuteronomy 5:2-3 specifically that the 10 commandments along with the rest of the Jewish jaw was NOT GIVEN TO THEIR FATHERS (past). He says it was only given to those who were alive that day—meaning the present congregation of Israel. You are teaching error and teachers will receive a greater condemnation from God because they can lead people astray with their false doctrine. The Bible is from God. You need to believe what it says.
You didn't answer the questions but I will address these verses
This is what Deut 5:2 says The Lord our God made a covenant with us in Horeb. 3 The Lord did not make this covenant with our fathers, but with us, those who are here today, all of us who are alive.
It does not say they were not given the Ten Commandments, one would have to read that into the verse.
Before God spoke and God wrote the Ten Commandments at Mt Sinai, He made individual covenants, at Mt Sinai, this was the first time He made a covenant with an entire nation, Israel, which represents God's people.
So it was not the same covenant, which just means an agreement because the covenants before were with individuals and this was with an entire nation, hence why its not the same agreement. It does not say it was not the same commandments.
God of course gave His law that defines sin because God's people keep God's commandments Rev 14:12 and God wanted anyone to sin, as that comes from another spirit 1 John 3:8 Where there is no law, there is no sin, and why it was a sin for Cain to kill Able and that law, thou shalt not murder, is only found in the Ten Commandments
This is what Deut 5:2 says The Lord our God made a covenant with us in Horeb. 3 The Lord did not make this covenant with our fathers, but with us, those who are here today, all of us who are alive.
It does not say they were not given the Ten Commandments, one would have to read that into the verse.
Before God spoke and God wrote the Ten Commandments at Mt Sinai, He made individual covenants, at Mt Sinai, this was the first time He made a covenant with an entire nation, Israel, which represents God's people.
So it was not the same covenant, which just means an agreement because the covenants before were with individuals and this was with an entire nation, hence why its not the same agreement. It does not say it was not the same commandments.
God of course gave His law that defines sin because God's people keep God's commandments Rev 14:12 and God wanted anyone to sin, as that comes from another spirit 1 John 3:8 Where there is no law, there is no sin, and why it was a sin for Cain to kill Able and that law, thou shalt not murder, is only found in the Ten Commandments
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Below you will find quick study on the topic I just finished this morning for myself to understand the concept " ANGEL OF THE LORD" further, I would like to share with you all my findings and I thank you for your input;
The Angel of the Lord is a fascinating and often debated figure in the Old Testament, and one of the key theological questions surrounding Him is whether He could be a pre-incarnate appearance of Jesus Christ. This interpretation, often referred to as a Christophany, has been widely discussed in Christian theology. The biblical evidence suggests that the Angel of the Lord is not merely an angelic messenger but may indeed be a manifestation of Christ, the Second Person of the Trinity, before His incarnation in the New Testament.
The Angel of the Lord: A Divine Figure
One of the key aspects that point toward the Angel of the Lord being a divine figure is how He is described in certain passages. Throughout the Old Testament, the Angel of the Lord speaks and acts with divine authority, sometimes even identifying Himself as God.
In Genesis 16, the Angel of the Lord appears to Hagar in the wilderness. When He speaks, He uses the first person as though He is God Himself, saying: "I will greatly multiply your offspring... because the Lord has listened to your affliction" (Genesis 16:10-11). This moment is pivotal because it demonstrates that the Angel of the Lord doesn't merely deliver a message from God—He speaks on God's behalf, identifying Himself with God in a personal way. Hagar even calls Him "the God who sees me" (Genesis 16:13), suggesting her recognition that she is encountering a divine presence.
Similarly, in Exodus 3, when Moses encounters the burning bush, the narrative transitions from describing the Angel of the Lord to referring to God Himself. In Exodus 3:6, the Angel of the Lord declares, “I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” Here, the Angel not only speaks as if He is God but is also associated directly with the divine identity. This transition between the Angel of the Lord and God speaking suggests that the Angel of the Lord is a manifestation of God, not just an ordinary messenger. Many Christian theologians interpret this passage as a Christophany, a pre-incarnate appearance of Christ, who is God the Son.
Another key passage comes from Judges 13, where the Angel of the Lord appears to Manoah and his wife to announce the birth of Samson. After the Angel consumes the offering with fire, Manoah and his wife realize they have seen a divine being. Manoah says, “We shall surely die, for we have seen God” (Judges 13:22). Their recognition that they have encountered God aligns with other Old Testament accounts where encountering a visible manifestation of God—such as in a theophany—was considered a life-threatening experience. This moment again suggests that the Angel of the Lord is not simply an angel but a divine being, potentially Christ Himself.
The Role of the Angel of the Lord
The Angel of the Lord often takes on a role that goes beyond that of a typical messenger. In several passages, He not only delivers messages from God but also acts as a mediator or intercessor. In Zechariah 1:12-13, the Angel of the Lord speaks directly to God on behalf of Israel, asking for mercy. “O Lord of hosts, how long will you have no mercy on Jerusalem?” In this moment, the Angel of the Lord is interceding for God's people, a role that is associated with Christ in the New Testament. The Angel’s intercession on behalf of Israel further suggests a divine role, one that aligns with the mediating role of Christ, who is the mediator between God and humanity (1 Timothy 2:5).
This intercessory role is significant because it emphasizes the Angel of the Lord's unique relationship with God and His people. While angels in general are messengers who serve God's will, the Angel of the Lord seems to have a special, direct relationship with God, acting on His behalf in a way that is more intimate and powerful than what we typically see with other angels.
Christophany: The Pre-Incarnate Christ
A Christophany refers to a visible manifestation of Christ before His incarnation in the New Testament. Theologically, this understanding is rooted in the belief that Christ, as the eternal Son of God, existed with the Father and the Holy Spirit before He became incarnate in Jesus. Because of this, it is not surprising that Christ would appear in various forms in the Old Testament, particularly as the Angel of the Lord. In the same way that God revealed Himself to humanity in different ways—through the burning bush, the cloud of glory, or the pillar of fire—He could also reveal Himself through the Angel of the Lord.
In John 1:1, 14, we read that “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God... And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.” This passage emphasizes that Jesus Christ, as the eternal Word, existed from the beginning and was with God. It also implies that Christ, as the Word, was active in the world long before His physical incarnation. This fits the idea that He could have appeared in the Old Testament in various forms, including the Angel of the Lord. Christ, as the second person of the Trinity, is the agent of creation, and it makes sense that He would be the one to reveal God’s will to humanity in these special encounters.
The Role of Michael and the Angel of the Lord
Another angle of this discussion involves the question of whether Michael the archangel could be the same as the Angel of the Lord. While Michael is described in Scripture as a chief angel and a warrior, there are key differences between him and the Angel of the Lord. Michael is always portrayed as a servant of God, carrying out specific tasks, like protecting Israel (Daniel 12:1) or fighting against evil forces (Jude 1:9, Revelation 12:7). He is never depicted as divine, and there is no indication that he speaks as God or accepts worship.
In contrast, the Angel of the Lord is shown to speak as God (e.g., in Exodus 3, where the Angel declares, "I am the God of your father"), receives worship (e.g., Judges 13:20-22, when Manoah and his wife worship Him without correction), and acts with divine authority. This suggests that the Angel of the Lord transcends the role of a mere angel and is more likely to be a manifestation of God—specifically, Christ, before His incarnation. Therefore, while Michael is an important archangel, he is not the same as the Angel of the Lord, who is seen in the Bible as a divine figure and a potential Christophany.
The Angel of the Lord as Christ
Based on the biblical evidence, it seems reasonable to identify the Angel of the Lord as a pre-incarnate appearance of Jesus Christ. Throughout the Old Testament, the Angel of the Lord speaks as God, receives worship, and performs divine acts that suggest a direct relationship with the Father. These appearances fit the Christian understanding of Christ as the eternal Son of God who was active in the world long before His birth in Bethlehem.
The Christophany view aligns with the broader Christian doctrine that Jesus, as the Son of God, has always been present with God the Father and has been involved in the work of salvation from the very beginning. In the Old Testament, the Angel of the Lord serves as a manifestation of God’s presence and a pre-incarnate revelation of Christ, pointing forward to the fuller revelation of God in Jesus Christ in the New Testament.
Thus, the Angel of the Lord in these Old Testament appearances could very well be Christ Himself, revealing the nature of God to His people before He became fully incarnate in Jesus Christ. This view not only fits the biblical evidence but also enriches our understanding of how God has consistently interacted with humanity throughout salvation history.
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You don't understand covenants and administrations of priesthoods.
If the covenant remained the same, there would be no need to change the priesthood.
Hebrews 7 walks us through this:
11 Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law),
So, the Levitical priests were the administrators of the law given at Sinai. But that law could not complete the people as God promised. It was NEVER designed to complete the people so, it was NEVER a part of God's promise to Abraham and the Seed who was Christ.
what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron?
So, because the law at Sinai could not perfect the people, another priest from a different line had to installed. This is Christ.
The contrast between the Levitical priesthood and the Melchizedek priesthood is stark.
Because the people at Sinai sent Moses to face God instead of themselves, the Levitical priests represent the people before God.
Because Christ was deemed worthy to be the Messiah, to fully represent God as Son, the priesthood of Melchizedek represents God to the people.
All who are in Christ represent God in the earth.
For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has officiated at the altar.
If the law that now governs the people of God is not the law given at Sinai then what law is it? Simple:
"For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death."
This does not make us able to go back and meet the requirements of the law at Sinai, that was a different covenant. That arrangement was only given to the people who were at the mountain. It kept the lineage of the people alive until the Seed, who is Christ, appeared.
The law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus reconciles man to God in Christ. We are reconciled to God by reckoning ourselves dead in Christ. By this, we 1. die to the law of sin and death and 2. receive the promise of new life in Christ by the Father. THIS is why we may approach God as His children! We become son of God in Christ.
All of the promises given to Abraham were contained in the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus. It's to this law we were reconciled in Christ to God. The law at Sinai served its purpose: to bring the Seed through the line of Abraham. God kept His promise to Abraham and his Seed. Now that we are in Christ, and of the order of Melchizedek where the priests represent God in the earth, we have died to the law given at Sinai, and we live a new life in Christ, a life not subject to the law of sin and death.
If the covenant remained the same, there would be no need to change the priesthood.
Hebrews 7 walks us through this:
11 Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law),
So, the Levitical priests were the administrators of the law given at Sinai. But that law could not complete the people as God promised. It was NEVER designed to complete the people so, it was NEVER a part of God's promise to Abraham and the Seed who was Christ.
what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron?
So, because the law at Sinai could not perfect the people, another priest from a different line had to installed. This is Christ.
The contrast between the Levitical priesthood and the Melchizedek priesthood is stark.
Because the people at Sinai sent Moses to face God instead of themselves, the Levitical priests represent the people before God.
Because Christ was deemed worthy to be the Messiah, to fully represent God as Son, the priesthood of Melchizedek represents God to the people.
All who are in Christ represent God in the earth.
For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has officiated at the altar.
If the law that now governs the people of God is not the law given at Sinai then what law is it? Simple:
"For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death."
This does not make us able to go back and meet the requirements of the law at Sinai, that was a different covenant. That arrangement was only given to the people who were at the mountain. It kept the lineage of the people alive until the Seed, who is Christ, appeared.
The law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus reconciles man to God in Christ. We are reconciled to God by reckoning ourselves dead in Christ. By this, we 1. die to the law of sin and death and 2. receive the promise of new life in Christ by the Father. THIS is why we may approach God as His children! We become son of God in Christ.
All of the promises given to Abraham were contained in the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus. It's to this law we were reconciled in Christ to God. The law at Sinai served its purpose: to bring the Seed through the line of Abraham. God kept His promise to Abraham and his Seed. Now that we are in Christ, and of the order of Melchizedek where the priests represent God in the earth, we have died to the law given at Sinai, and we live a new life in Christ, a life not subject to the law of sin and death.
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Interesting you left out why the law of the priesthood had to change, let me add the context back in
Heb 7:11 Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron?
12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law.
WHY THE CHANGE IN THE LAW?
What does the scripture say....
13 For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has [b]officiated at the altar.
14 For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning [c]priesthood. 15 And it is yet far more evident if, in the likeness of Melchizedek, there arises another priest 16 who has come, not according to the law of a fleshly commandment, but according to the power of an endless life.
The law said the priests had to come from the tribe of Levi because they were the only tribe who was faithful when Moses went up to get the Ten Commandments. But a human priesthood was never perfect compared to Jesus and His Presithood, hence why the law of the priesthood had to change since Jesus came from the tribe of Judah so because of the priesthood being changed from the Levities to Jesus, the law of the priesthood had to change.
I love that God always explains His Word if we allow Him to direct our paths instead of adding our own words to God's Word- something we are told not to do Pro 30:5-6
Heb 7:11 Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron?
12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law.
WHY THE CHANGE IN THE LAW?
What does the scripture say....
13 For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has [b]officiated at the altar.
14 For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning [c]priesthood. 15 And it is yet far more evident if, in the likeness of Melchizedek, there arises another priest 16 who has come, not according to the law of a fleshly commandment, but according to the power of an endless life.
The law said the priests had to come from the tribe of Levi because they were the only tribe who was faithful when Moses went up to get the Ten Commandments. But a human priesthood was never perfect compared to Jesus and His Presithood, hence why the law of the priesthood had to change since Jesus came from the tribe of Judah so because of the priesthood being changed from the Levities to Jesus, the law of the priesthood had to change.
I love that God always explains His Word if we allow Him to direct our paths instead of adding our own words to God's Word- something we are told not to do Pro 30:5-6
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No, that's not what it means.
Remember, the epistle was written to Jews. They would have understood the law given at Sinai. They knew no priest could come from Judah per Sinai law. That was the writer's point.
Even in your own post you wrote another vast difference of the law at Sinai vs the Law of the Spirit of Christ
There you have it: the Sinai law is about "fleshly commandments". The Law in Christ is about eternal life in Him.
Remember, the epistle was written to Jews. They would have understood the law given at Sinai. They knew no priest could come from Judah per Sinai law. That was the writer's point.
Even in your own post you wrote another vast difference of the law at Sinai vs the Law of the Spirit of Christ
There you have it: the Sinai law is about "fleshly commandments". The Law in Christ is about eternal life in Him.
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The Ten Commandments are not fleshy commandments. The Sabbath started at Creation Exo 20:11 when there was just man, not Jew, part of God's perfect plan before sin. The sacrificial system started because of sin for breaking God's law 1 John 3:4 the Ten Commandments written by God Himself.
Thats the animal sacrificial system, the laws that were under the earthy priesthood written in the book by Moses
Deut 31:24 24 So it was, when Moses had completed writing the words of this law in a book, when they were finished, 25 that Moses commanded the Levites, who bore the ark of the covenant of the Lord, saying: 26 “Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there as a witness against you;
Heb 9:10 concerned only with foods and drinks, various [b]washings, and fleshly ordinances imposed until the time of reformation.11 But Christ came as High Priest of the good things [c]to come, with the greater and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation. 12 Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. 13 For if the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a heifer, sprinkling the unclean, [d]sanctifies for the [e]purifying of the flesh, 14 how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without [f]spot to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? 15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
Hebrews 10:1
10 For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect. 2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? For the worshipers, once [a]purified, would have had no more consciousness of sins. 3 But in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year. 4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins. 5 Therefore, when He came into the world, He said:
“Sacrifice and offering You did not desire,
But a body You have prepared for Me.
6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin
You had no pleasure.
7 Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come—
In the volume of the book it is written of Me—
To do Your will, O God.’ ”
8 Previously saying, “Sacrifice and offering, burnt offerings, and offerings for sin You did not desire, nor had pleasure in them” (which are offered according to the law), 9 then He said, “Behold, I have come to do Your will, [b]O God.” He takes away the first that He may establish the second. 10 By that will we have been [c]sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Jesus and His Presihood changed the sacrifical system as the scriptures clearly state. There is no fleshy ordinances, food or drink offerings in the Ten Comamndments that was written by God, that is perfect for converting the soul.
Thats the animal sacrificial system, the laws that were under the earthy priesthood written in the book by Moses
Deut 31:24 24 So it was, when Moses had completed writing the words of this law in a book, when they were finished, 25 that Moses commanded the Levites, who bore the ark of the covenant of the Lord, saying: 26 “Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there as a witness against you;
Heb 9:10 concerned only with foods and drinks, various [b]washings, and fleshly ordinances imposed until the time of reformation.11 But Christ came as High Priest of the good things [c]to come, with the greater and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation. 12 Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. 13 For if the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a heifer, sprinkling the unclean, [d]sanctifies for the [e]purifying of the flesh, 14 how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without [f]spot to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? 15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
Hebrews 10:1
10 For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect. 2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? For the worshipers, once [a]purified, would have had no more consciousness of sins. 3 But in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year. 4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins. 5 Therefore, when He came into the world, He said:
“Sacrifice and offering You did not desire,
But a body You have prepared for Me.
6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin
You had no pleasure.
7 Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come—
In the volume of the book it is written of Me—
To do Your will, O God.’ ”
8 Previously saying, “Sacrifice and offering, burnt offerings, and offerings for sin You did not desire, nor had pleasure in them” (which are offered according to the law), 9 then He said, “Behold, I have come to do Your will, [b]O God.” He takes away the first that He may establish the second. 10 By that will we have been [c]sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Jesus and His Presihood changed the sacrifical system as the scriptures clearly state. There is no fleshy ordinances, food or drink offerings in the Ten Comamndments that was written by God, that is perfect for converting the soul.
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Verse please.
Hebrews 7 clearly says the priesthood went from Levi to Judah so Jesus could be our High Priest, we are part of the priesthood of Christ, so it would be the tribe of Judah, the tribe where Jesus came from.
Which of course you never quoted where I said God's people don't become priests.
Hebrews 7 clearly says the priesthood went from Levi to Judah so Jesus could be our High Priest, we are part of the priesthood of Christ, so it would be the tribe of Judah, the tribe where Jesus came from.
Which of course you never quoted where I said God's people don't become priests.
Deuteronomy 5
Moses is set up to tell the people the substance of the covenant given at Sinai to the people.
He begins:
"And Moses called all Israel, and said to them: “Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your hearing today, that you may learn them and be careful to observe them."
So Moses is about to proclaim the statutes and judgements to the people of Israel so that they can know them and observe them.
He continues:
"The Lord our God made a covenant with us in Horeb."
He is clear to call it a covenant. This is a binding contract between God and the people.
He continues;
"The Lord did not make this covenant with our fathers..."
See that? The. Lord. did. not. make. this. covenant. with. our. fathers.
He is saying that what they received at Sinai was not what their fathers received (which included Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and the patriarchs... they knew who their fathers were.)
Next line:
"..but with us, those who are here today, all of us who are alive."
So with whom was the covenant made? with us, those. who. are. here. today. all. of. us. who. are. alive.
Al of us who are here in the moment, who are alive.
So then in verse 6 Moses begins to recite the terms of the covenant.
"I am the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
‘You shall have no other gods before Me."
He starts with the 10 Commandments. Including verse 12...
"Observe the Sabbath day, to keep it holy, as the Lord your God commanded you."
The fathers and the patriarchs did not have this covenant that included the 10 commandments.
Some may ask, "Well then, why didn't they just murder kill and steal and do whatever they wanted to do?"
Answer: Because they believed God. God spoke to them Spirit to spirit. They knew God's character because they knew God.
Paul would write about it this way:
"For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear..."
What is this "spirit of bondage again to fear"? This is the covenant given at Sinai. The law at Sinai could only make slaves of the people.
So, what do believers receive?
"..but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father.” The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God..."
This is the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ. The Spirit Himself bears witness to our spirits that we are God's children. This is God talking to us His Spirit to our spirit.
Moses is set up to tell the people the substance of the covenant given at Sinai to the people.
He begins:
"And Moses called all Israel, and said to them: “Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your hearing today, that you may learn them and be careful to observe them."
So Moses is about to proclaim the statutes and judgements to the people of Israel so that they can know them and observe them.
He continues:
"The Lord our God made a covenant with us in Horeb."
He is clear to call it a covenant. This is a binding contract between God and the people.
He continues;
"The Lord did not make this covenant with our fathers..."
See that? The. Lord. did. not. make. this. covenant. with. our. fathers.
He is saying that what they received at Sinai was not what their fathers received (which included Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and the patriarchs... they knew who their fathers were.)
Next line:
"..but with us, those who are here today, all of us who are alive."
So with whom was the covenant made? with us, those. who. are. here. today. all. of. us. who. are. alive.
Al of us who are here in the moment, who are alive.
So then in verse 6 Moses begins to recite the terms of the covenant.
"I am the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
‘You shall have no other gods before Me."
He starts with the 10 Commandments. Including verse 12...
"Observe the Sabbath day, to keep it holy, as the Lord your God commanded you."
The fathers and the patriarchs did not have this covenant that included the 10 commandments.
Some may ask, "Well then, why didn't they just murder kill and steal and do whatever they wanted to do?"
Answer: Because they believed God. God spoke to them Spirit to spirit. They knew God's character because they knew God.
Paul would write about it this way:
"For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear..."
What is this "spirit of bondage again to fear"? This is the covenant given at Sinai. The law at Sinai could only make slaves of the people.
So, what do believers receive?
"..but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father.” The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God..."
This is the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ. The Spirit Himself bears witness to our spirits that we are God's children. This is God talking to us His Spirit to our spirit.
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Why did you separate the Sabbath commandment from the other 9 commandments. You get rid of the Sabbath; you get rid of the other 9 and no one is going to be reconciled by breaking them without repentance and a change of direction Rev 22:14-15. God did not separate them, why do you? God is the Authority of everything, man is the creation.
I am the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
‘You shall have no other gods before Me."
God is our Creator and Redeemer- Egypt represents captivity, bondage and sin and God doesn't want us to forget where we came from and who saved us from our bondage. There are many parallels people don't seem to understand about the Israelites being led out of Egypt in the wilderness to their Promise Land to where we are today in what Christ is trying to lead us out of our Egypt and sin and trails of our wilderness so we can enter into our Promise Land- the New Heaven and New Earth.
All these verses proves which is exactly what I stated, the agreement changed as it was a national agreement, it does not say the words changed, you would need a verse for that. A covenant just means an agreement.
That said there are plenty of verses that proves the Ten Commandments was being kept before My Sinai. Where there is no law, there is no sin Rom 4:15, so God's law has always existed because Lucifer sinned in heaven. Adam and Eve sinned in the garden. Cain sinned. The Sabbath started at Eden, not Mt Sinai according to God Exo 20:11 Mar 2:27 Gen 1:26
I am going to have to believe what God said, over what man says.
For those interested
Many Christians, including myself a while ago, believe that God first made His Ten Commandments known on mount Sinai. However, in this blog post, we are going to show that God ‘covertly’ revealed the Ten Commandments in the beginning, in the Garden of Eden to Adam and Eve, our first parents. It is a Revelation by Grace!
But how was this discovery made? Ironically, we discovered it in the last book of the Bible, in the book of Revelations 3:14-22, the letter to the church of Laodicea.
In the letter to the church of Laodicea, Jesus Christ addresses the church of today, the last church period in church history, the church of Laodicea, and states that it is naked and needs to buy of Him white raiment to cover the shame of its nakedness.
So the question we have to ask is, how did the church of Laodicea become naked in the first place, and what is this white raiment Jesus Christ strongly recommended as the remedy to our state of nakedness?
After going through the Bible, we discover there’s a similar situation of nakedness and white raiments in the book of Genesis in the story of Adam and Eve. Meaning if we study what occurred in the Garden of Eden that caused Adam and Eve to become naked, we can understand why the church of Laodicea is naked today. But wait a minute? How were Adam and Eve clothed at their creation in the first place before they became naked? From Psalm 8:5 and Isaiah 61:10, we learn that at their creation, God clothed Adam and Eve with glory and honor in garments of light (white), which represented the righteousness of God. So basically, God clothed Adam and Eve just as He and the angels were, in garments of white or light.
So the next logical question is that what then is the Righteousness of God? From Psalm 119:172, Isaiah 51:6-7, 1 John 5:17 and 1 John 3:4, we learn that the Righteousness of God is His everlasting covenant, the Ten Commandments, which is His Holy law. Not the Mosaic law! There’s a difference between the two.
This means that in the Garden of Eden, God clothed Adam and Eve with His Holy Law, which was represented by the white garments, and when they sinned and disobeyed Him, they lost that robe of righteousness and became naked! By eating the fruit of the tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, which God commanded them not to eat, Adam and Eve sinned and broke the Ten Commandments in the Garden of Eden, therefore losing the garment of white, which is the righteousness of God.
Now that we are on the same page, we can now proceed to tackle the question, which of the Ten Commandments did Adam and Eve break? The answer is the full monty, all the ten at once!
“Thou shalt not eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,” cannot be found in the 10 Commandments, however, in the simple statement, “But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die,” God places all the principles of the 10 Commandments.
The purpose of this blog post is to show by eating of that fruit, Adam and Eve broke all the ten commandments.
The first point we have to consider is the Bible’s definition of sin found in 1 John 3:4 “Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law,” meaning whenever we sin, we transgress an element of the Ten Commandments.
The second point to note is that the law of God is spiritual, according to Romans 7:14, where Paul states, “For we know that the Law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.” Why is the Law of God spiritual? We find the answer in Jesus’s conversation with the Samaritan woman in John 4:24, “God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” Since the Creator of the universe and author of the 10 Commandments is Spirit, it is just natural that the document He authored is also in Spirit.
Usually, when we think of the 10 Commandments, we look at it literally as a list of 10 to do things. However, when we look at it from a spiritual point of view, we see that it’s more than ten and more profound than we can imagine. The number 10 in the Bible symbolizes ordinal perfection in the totality of God’s government. Psalm 119:96 states, “I have seen an end of all perfection: but thy commandment is exceeding broad.” It is limitless and encompasses every sin under the universe, and the angels are also subject to it just as we are. It is similar to the parables of the ten virgins (Matt 25:1-13), the ten lepers (Luke 17:11-19), the ten talents (Matt 25:14-30), and the ten minas (Luke 19:12-27). The number ten used in all these parables are prophetic and symbolic of the totality of the faithful.
Also, the law being Spirit should not be surprising because even laws written by humans is said to be in letter and Spirit. Constitutions of nations and governments are argued both in letter and spirit, so how much more the law that was written by God, who is Spirit? The Spirit of the law is the profound purpose, intention, and reasoning behind the letter of the law that we see. It is the part of the law that we do not see, but the more critical component of the law. Whenever we change the letter of the law it means that we have also changed the reason and original intent, which is the foundation upon which the law sits, which is the most critical aspect of the law. That is why the Lord warned us in Proverbs 22:28, “Remove not the ancient landmark, which thy fathers have set.” An example between letter and spirit of the law at home when your parents tell their teenagers not to have premarital sex until they are responsible adults. The teenager may not be happy and understand because they want to experience it. However, the spirit behind the law is that the parent is protecting their adolescent child from getting teenage pregnancy, which could derail their education and future stability or contracting an STD, which could end their life.
Many Christians, including myself a while ago, believe that God first made His Ten Commandments known on mount Sinai. However, in this blog post, we are going to show that God ‘covertly’ revealed the Ten Commandments in the beginning, in the Garden of Eden to Adam and Eve, our first parents. It is a Revelation by Grace!
But how was this discovery made? Ironically, we discovered it in the last book of the Bible, in the book of Revelations 3:14-22, the letter to the church of Laodicea.
In the letter to the church of Laodicea, Jesus Christ addresses the church of today, the last church period in church history, the church of Laodicea, and states that it is naked and needs to buy of Him white raiment to cover the shame of its nakedness.
So the question we have to ask is, how did the church of Laodicea become naked in the first place, and what is this white raiment Jesus Christ strongly recommended as the remedy to our state of nakedness?
After going through the Bible, we discover there’s a similar situation of nakedness and white raiments in the book of Genesis in the story of Adam and Eve. Meaning if we study what occurred in the Garden of Eden that caused Adam and Eve to become naked, we can understand why the church of Laodicea is naked today. But wait a minute? How were Adam and Eve clothed at their creation in the first place before they became naked? From Psalm 8:5 and Isaiah 61:10, we learn that at their creation, God clothed Adam and Eve with glory and honor in garments of light (white), which represented the righteousness of God. So basically, God clothed Adam and Eve just as He and the angels were, in garments of white or light.
So the next logical question is that what then is the Righteousness of God? From Psalm 119:172, Isaiah 51:6-7, 1 John 5:17 and 1 John 3:4, we learn that the Righteousness of God is His everlasting covenant, the Ten Commandments, which is His Holy law. Not the Mosaic law! There’s a difference between the two.
This means that in the Garden of Eden, God clothed Adam and Eve with His Holy Law, which was represented by the white garments, and when they sinned and disobeyed Him, they lost that robe of righteousness and became naked! By eating the fruit of the tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, which God commanded them not to eat, Adam and Eve sinned and broke the Ten Commandments in the Garden of Eden, therefore losing the garment of white, which is the righteousness of God.
Now that we are on the same page, we can now proceed to tackle the question, which of the Ten Commandments did Adam and Eve break? The answer is the full monty, all the ten at once!
“Thou shalt not eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,” cannot be found in the 10 Commandments, however, in the simple statement, “But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die,” God places all the principles of the 10 Commandments.
The purpose of this blog post is to show by eating of that fruit, Adam and Eve broke all the ten commandments.
The first point we have to consider is the Bible’s definition of sin found in 1 John 3:4 “Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law,” meaning whenever we sin, we transgress an element of the Ten Commandments.
The second point to note is that the law of God is spiritual, according to Romans 7:14, where Paul states, “For we know that the Law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.” Why is the Law of God spiritual? We find the answer in Jesus’s conversation with the Samaritan woman in John 4:24, “God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” Since the Creator of the universe and author of the 10 Commandments is Spirit, it is just natural that the document He authored is also in Spirit.
Usually, when we think of the 10 Commandments, we look at it literally as a list of 10 to do things. However, when we look at it from a spiritual point of view, we see that it’s more than ten and more profound than we can imagine. The number 10 in the Bible symbolizes ordinal perfection in the totality of God’s government. Psalm 119:96 states, “I have seen an end of all perfection: but thy commandment is exceeding broad.” It is limitless and encompasses every sin under the universe, and the angels are also subject to it just as we are. It is similar to the parables of the ten virgins (Matt 25:1-13), the ten lepers (Luke 17:11-19), the ten talents (Matt 25:14-30), and the ten minas (Luke 19:12-27). The number ten used in all these parables are prophetic and symbolic of the totality of the faithful.
Also, the law being Spirit should not be surprising because even laws written by humans is said to be in letter and Spirit. Constitutions of nations and governments are argued both in letter and spirit, so how much more the law that was written by God, who is Spirit? The Spirit of the law is the profound purpose, intention, and reasoning behind the letter of the law that we see. It is the part of the law that we do not see, but the more critical component of the law. Whenever we change the letter of the law it means that we have also changed the reason and original intent, which is the foundation upon which the law sits, which is the most critical aspect of the law. That is why the Lord warned us in Proverbs 22:28, “Remove not the ancient landmark, which thy fathers have set.” An example between letter and spirit of the law at home when your parents tell their teenagers not to have premarital sex until they are responsible adults. The teenager may not be happy and understand because they want to experience it. However, the spirit behind the law is that the parent is protecting their adolescent child from getting teenage pregnancy, which could derail their education and future stability or contracting an STD, which could end their life.
Also, the difference in the letter and spirit of the law can be found in the criminal code in most countries where you can be charged with conspiracy to commit a crime, whether murder or stealing or any other crime under the criminal code.
Having explained the Letter and Spirit of the law, we can now move on to examine what occurred in the Garden.
From Genesis 3:6 “And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.”
The Tenth Commandment
From the above quote, we see that Eve coveted or lusted after the fruit when “she saw that the tree was good for food, and “it was pleasant to the eyes” as well as “a tree to be desired to make one wise.” Eve coveted God’s fruit and broke the tenth commandment which says “17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor anything that is thy neighbor’s.” (Exodus 20:17)
Eve did not only covet the fruit of God, but she also wanted the knowledge which belonged to God, which is the knowledge of Good and Evil. Adam and Eve sinfully lusted after what was not theirs and sinfully desired to be like God themselves. Even though they were tempted and deceived by the Serpent, which is the devil and Satan, to take the fruit and eat, we also learn from James, that every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his lust and enticed. James 1:13-15 “13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: 14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.” So before Satan’s deception, he had probably observed their own desires of the fruit before hatching his plan to cause their fall.
Coveteousness or the sin of lust is the primary basis of all other sins committed by man. In Romans 7, Paul states that he was first convicted of sin, the sin of lust by the law, which said Thou shalt not covet. It is from covetousness that people steal, kill, and commit adultery. It is from coveteousness that we find greed or selfishness, envy, and jealousy. We fall into the sin of covetousness or lust when we are not content with what our Creator God has already given us. 1 Timothy 66 “But godliness with contentment is great gain. 7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. 8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content. 9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. 10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.” When we show discontent, we become ungrateful to God, who has provided us with everything and also tells us to be anxious about nothing but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, we should make our requests be made known to Him. (Philippians 4:6)
Adam and Eve were not content with all the fruit trees of the Garden of Eden, which God had given them to eat for food. They became blinded in their lust and desire for the fruit and knowledge of God and thus broke the tenth commandment, which says Thou shalt not covet.
The Second Commandment
From Colossians 3, we learn that coveteousness is idolatry, therefore by breaking the tenth commandment, Adam and Eve automatically broke the second commandment, which speaks of idolatry. Paul states in Colossians 3, “Put to death, therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry.”
How is covetousness idolatry someone might ask? It is easy to see how Adam and Eve were blinded by desire and lust for the fruit of God. The fruit became the object of desire and attention. Anything that becomes our object of extreme admiration, love, desire, and attention is an idol. It becomes an idol because it replaces the role of God in our lives. As creation and children of God, He must be our object of admiration and desire and worhsip. Adam and Eve became blinded to everything else God had provided for them in the Garden, and their only focus and object of desire became the fruit of God and the knowledge of good and evil. The second commandment states “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.” (Exodus 20:4-6).
God considers anyone who commits idolatry to hate him. Most Christians know that idolotry in the form of bowing down an object is a sin. However, many of us are oblivious to the more critical aspect of committing spiritual idolatry when we make other objects or entities the center of our desire or attention or admiration. It can be our children, wives or loved ones, favorite artiste, or a coveted position or any inanimate object.
A perfect example of how coveteousness leads to idolatry is the fall of Lucifer or Satan, which found in Isaiah 14: 12 “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.”
Satan, formerly Lucifer, a creation of God, coveted the throne of God and also wanted to be worshipped like God. He was a beautifully created mighty angel who covered the throne of God (anointed cherub). His was not satisfied with his position in heaven and desire to be like God. His desire, selfishness, and greed blinded him to all the gifts God had already endowed him. His selfishness shows in verse above where everything was about him, I, I, I, I, I…..5 I’s, he failed to see anything else but the throne of God in his sight. This desire led Lucifer to rebel against God, causing him to be cast out of heaven and become Satan, the adversery. He is the chief Idolator who desires worship and control everything else, and now he’s deceived fallen human race to worship him instead of our Creator God. The reason why we worship God is that He is our Creator and provider in all things. However, when we commit idolatry, we worship the creation instead of the Creator himself. Adam and Eve committed idolatry because the object of their desire and worship become the fruit of God instead of God, their Creator, who gave them everything.
Having explained the Letter and Spirit of the law, we can now move on to examine what occurred in the Garden.
From Genesis 3:6 “And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.”
The Tenth Commandment
From the above quote, we see that Eve coveted or lusted after the fruit when “she saw that the tree was good for food, and “it was pleasant to the eyes” as well as “a tree to be desired to make one wise.” Eve coveted God’s fruit and broke the tenth commandment which says “17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor anything that is thy neighbor’s.” (Exodus 20:17)
Eve did not only covet the fruit of God, but she also wanted the knowledge which belonged to God, which is the knowledge of Good and Evil. Adam and Eve sinfully lusted after what was not theirs and sinfully desired to be like God themselves. Even though they were tempted and deceived by the Serpent, which is the devil and Satan, to take the fruit and eat, we also learn from James, that every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his lust and enticed. James 1:13-15 “13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: 14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.” So before Satan’s deception, he had probably observed their own desires of the fruit before hatching his plan to cause their fall.
Coveteousness or the sin of lust is the primary basis of all other sins committed by man. In Romans 7, Paul states that he was first convicted of sin, the sin of lust by the law, which said Thou shalt not covet. It is from covetousness that people steal, kill, and commit adultery. It is from coveteousness that we find greed or selfishness, envy, and jealousy. We fall into the sin of covetousness or lust when we are not content with what our Creator God has already given us. 1 Timothy 66 “But godliness with contentment is great gain. 7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. 8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content. 9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. 10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.” When we show discontent, we become ungrateful to God, who has provided us with everything and also tells us to be anxious about nothing but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, we should make our requests be made known to Him. (Philippians 4:6)
Adam and Eve were not content with all the fruit trees of the Garden of Eden, which God had given them to eat for food. They became blinded in their lust and desire for the fruit and knowledge of God and thus broke the tenth commandment, which says Thou shalt not covet.
The Second Commandment
From Colossians 3, we learn that coveteousness is idolatry, therefore by breaking the tenth commandment, Adam and Eve automatically broke the second commandment, which speaks of idolatry. Paul states in Colossians 3, “Put to death, therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry.”
How is covetousness idolatry someone might ask? It is easy to see how Adam and Eve were blinded by desire and lust for the fruit of God. The fruit became the object of desire and attention. Anything that becomes our object of extreme admiration, love, desire, and attention is an idol. It becomes an idol because it replaces the role of God in our lives. As creation and children of God, He must be our object of admiration and desire and worhsip. Adam and Eve became blinded to everything else God had provided for them in the Garden, and their only focus and object of desire became the fruit of God and the knowledge of good and evil. The second commandment states “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.” (Exodus 20:4-6).
God considers anyone who commits idolatry to hate him. Most Christians know that idolotry in the form of bowing down an object is a sin. However, many of us are oblivious to the more critical aspect of committing spiritual idolatry when we make other objects or entities the center of our desire or attention or admiration. It can be our children, wives or loved ones, favorite artiste, or a coveted position or any inanimate object.
A perfect example of how coveteousness leads to idolatry is the fall of Lucifer or Satan, which found in Isaiah 14: 12 “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.”
Satan, formerly Lucifer, a creation of God, coveted the throne of God and also wanted to be worshipped like God. He was a beautifully created mighty angel who covered the throne of God (anointed cherub). His was not satisfied with his position in heaven and desire to be like God. His desire, selfishness, and greed blinded him to all the gifts God had already endowed him. His selfishness shows in verse above where everything was about him, I, I, I, I, I…..5 I’s, he failed to see anything else but the throne of God in his sight. This desire led Lucifer to rebel against God, causing him to be cast out of heaven and become Satan, the adversery. He is the chief Idolator who desires worship and control everything else, and now he’s deceived fallen human race to worship him instead of our Creator God. The reason why we worship God is that He is our Creator and provider in all things. However, when we commit idolatry, we worship the creation instead of the Creator himself. Adam and Eve committed idolatry because the object of their desire and worship become the fruit of God instead of God, their Creator, who gave them everything.
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