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The Ten commandment laws are all in the NT.
Mat 19:17-18
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Jesus said keep the commandments
Then quoted 5 of the 10.
James said ...Jas 2:10-12
10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
Paul said... Rom 13:8-10
8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. 9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
Jesus said He was Lord of the Sabbath.
And the sabbath was made for man.
Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
This flight is many years after the resurrection of Jesus, and can even apply to the last days. If the sabbath day ment nothing why did Jesus say it.
Nothing states that these 10 commandments are made void.
Mat 19:17-18
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Jesus said keep the commandments
Then quoted 5 of the 10.
James said ...Jas 2:10-12
10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
Paul said... Rom 13:8-10
8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. 9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
Jesus said He was Lord of the Sabbath.
And the sabbath was made for man.
Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
This flight is many years after the resurrection of Jesus, and can even apply to the last days. If the sabbath day ment nothing why did Jesus say it.
Nothing states that these 10 commandments are made void.
Mat 24:6-9
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. 9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
Jesus is talking about the future.
Like many things in the bible, events and warnings have dual applications.
As it was in the time of Noah so shall it be when Jesus returns.
We study the past to learn about the future, or present.
The destruction of Jerusalem was in 70 ad.
But many of the quotes are also about the end.... Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.Mat 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Mat 24:27-31
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. ...and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Then Jesus shares some parables..
Matt 24 is of things after the death and resurrection of Jesus, and Jesus said to pray that your flight be not on the sabbath day.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. 9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
Jesus is talking about the future.
Like many things in the bible, events and warnings have dual applications.
As it was in the time of Noah so shall it be when Jesus returns.
We study the past to learn about the future, or present.
The destruction of Jerusalem was in 70 ad.
But many of the quotes are also about the end.... Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.Mat 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Mat 24:27-31
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. ...and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Then Jesus shares some parables..
Matt 24 is of things after the death and resurrection of Jesus, and Jesus said to pray that your flight be not on the sabbath day.
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Exactly right. The law has done its job once it leads people to Christ.
1 Timothy 1:
"8Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it legitimately. 9We realize that law is not enacted for the righteous, but for the lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinful, for the unholy and profane, for killers of father or mother, for murderers, 10for the sexually immoral, for homosexuals, for slave traders and liars and perjurers, and for anyone else who is averse to sound teaching 11that agrees with the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted."
Galatians 3:
"19Why then was the law given? It was added because of transgressions, until the arrival of the seed to whom the promise referred. It was administered through angels by a mediator. 20A mediator is unnecessary, however, for only one party; but God is one.
21Is the law, then, opposed to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come from the law. 22But the Scripture pronounces all things confined by sin, so that by faith in Jesus Christ the promise might be given to those who believe.
23Before this faith came, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law became our guardian to lead us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian."
A guardian is only for the immature.
1 Timothy 1:
"8Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it legitimately. 9We realize that law is not enacted for the righteous, but for the lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinful, for the unholy and profane, for killers of father or mother, for murderers, 10for the sexually immoral, for homosexuals, for slave traders and liars and perjurers, and for anyone else who is averse to sound teaching 11that agrees with the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted."
Galatians 3:
"19Why then was the law given? It was added because of transgressions, until the arrival of the seed to whom the promise referred. It was administered through angels by a mediator. 20A mediator is unnecessary, however, for only one party; but God is one.
21Is the law, then, opposed to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come from the law. 22But the Scripture pronounces all things confined by sin, so that by faith in Jesus Christ the promise might be given to those who believe.
23Before this faith came, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law became our guardian to lead us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian."
A guardian is only for the immature.
You should have noted that the Sabbath commandment was NOT cited and reaffirmed, which implies that it IS made optional, except for the part about killing those who work on Saturday, which is made void. BTW, the "whole law" includes all laws in EX thru DT, NOT only the Decalogue, of which all except the Sabbath commandment WERE confirmed in the NT.
We are not blessed when we disoeby God's commandments. We will either receive God's blessing or His curse and that hasn't changed.
The law is not cursed, the law is perfect for converting the soul Psa 19:7 and is holy, just and righteous Rom 7:12
The curse is breaking the law which is sin and leads to death, unless one has a conversion and changes their ways, but continuing down that path there remains no more sacrifice Heb 10:26-30. Jesus came to take the penalty of that curse and if He could have just removed the law He would not had to die, that's why the law remains. If we are in Christ, He takes that curse for us since we all sinned, but if we are hostile to God's law and won't subject ourselves to it, it makes us an enmity against God Rom 8:7-8
Choose life!
Deut 30:11 “For this commandment which I command you today is not too mysterious for you, nor is it far off. 12 It is not in heaven, that you should say, ‘Who will ascend into heaven for us and bring it to us, that we may hear it and do it?’ 13 Nor is it beyond the sea, that you should say, ‘Who will go over the sea for us and bring it to us, that we may hear it and do it?’ 14 But the word is very near you, in your mouth and in your heart, that you may do it.
15 “See, I have set before you today life and good, death and evil, 16 in that I command you today to love the Lord your God, to walk in His ways, and to keep His commandments, His statutes, and His judgments, that you may live and multiply; and the Lord your God will bless you in the land which you go to possess. 17 But if your heart turns away so that you do not hear, and are drawn away, and worship other gods and serve them, 18 I announce to you today that you shall surely perish; you shall not prolong your days in the land which you cross over the Jordan to go in and possess. 19 I call heaven and earth as witnesses today against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; therefore choose life, that both you and your descendants may live; 20 that you may love the Lord your God, that you may obey His voice, and that you may cling to Him, for He is your life and the length of your days; and that you may dwell in the land which the Lord swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to give them.”
God changes not and keeps His promises....
Only God can take away His blessing - which He blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy and sanctified it. Man cannot sanctify a day, man cannot sanctify us, we need God Eze 20:12 Gen 2:1-3 man cannot make a day holy, we need God Gen 2:1-3 man cannot bless us, we need God.
Isa 56:2 Blessed is the man who does this,
And the son of man who lays hold on it;
Who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And keeps his hand from doing any evil.”
Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
You can keep listening to your Sunday pastor telling you we don't need to keep the Sabbath commandment, but what does God say? He said to Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy, so doing the opposite, forgetting is not the path we should take. We are told whoever we obey is who we serve sin unto tech obedience unto righteous Rom 6:16 the path we take is based on our decisions. Choose life, choose God's blessings.
The law is not cursed, the law is perfect for converting the soul Psa 19:7 and is holy, just and righteous Rom 7:12
The curse is breaking the law which is sin and leads to death, unless one has a conversion and changes their ways, but continuing down that path there remains no more sacrifice Heb 10:26-30. Jesus came to take the penalty of that curse and if He could have just removed the law He would not had to die, that's why the law remains. If we are in Christ, He takes that curse for us since we all sinned, but if we are hostile to God's law and won't subject ourselves to it, it makes us an enmity against God Rom 8:7-8
Choose life!
Deut 30:11 “For this commandment which I command you today is not too mysterious for you, nor is it far off. 12 It is not in heaven, that you should say, ‘Who will ascend into heaven for us and bring it to us, that we may hear it and do it?’ 13 Nor is it beyond the sea, that you should say, ‘Who will go over the sea for us and bring it to us, that we may hear it and do it?’ 14 But the word is very near you, in your mouth and in your heart, that you may do it.
15 “See, I have set before you today life and good, death and evil, 16 in that I command you today to love the Lord your God, to walk in His ways, and to keep His commandments, His statutes, and His judgments, that you may live and multiply; and the Lord your God will bless you in the land which you go to possess. 17 But if your heart turns away so that you do not hear, and are drawn away, and worship other gods and serve them, 18 I announce to you today that you shall surely perish; you shall not prolong your days in the land which you cross over the Jordan to go in and possess. 19 I call heaven and earth as witnesses today against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; therefore choose life, that both you and your descendants may live; 20 that you may love the Lord your God, that you may obey His voice, and that you may cling to Him, for He is your life and the length of your days; and that you may dwell in the land which the Lord swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to give them.”
God changes not and keeps His promises....
Only God can take away His blessing - which He blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy and sanctified it. Man cannot sanctify a day, man cannot sanctify us, we need God Eze 20:12 Gen 2:1-3 man cannot make a day holy, we need God Gen 2:1-3 man cannot bless us, we need God.
Isa 56:2 Blessed is the man who does this,
And the son of man who lays hold on it;
Who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And keeps his hand from doing any evil.”
Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
You can keep listening to your Sunday pastor telling you we don't need to keep the Sabbath commandment, but what does God say? He said to Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy, so doing the opposite, forgetting is not the path we should take. We are told whoever we obey is who we serve sin unto tech obedience unto righteous Rom 6:16 the path we take is based on our decisions. Choose life, choose God's blessings.
To claim the Sabbath wasn't a commandment in the NT or not part of the NT must not be reading their bibles. The Sabbath is mentioned close to 60 times in the NT, still a commandment, still kept by God's people.
Luke 23:56 Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment.
Heb 4:9 There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God;
The rest in this verse literally translates into Sabbath keeping
Original Word: σαββατισμός
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: sabbatismos
Pronunciation: sab-bat-is-mos'
Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos')
Definition: Sabbath rest
Meaning: a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest.
To enter God's rest one also ceases from their works, as God did, on the seventh day
Heb 4:10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.
Heb 4:4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”;
Mind you, God only gave a name to one day, the seventh day and called it the Sabbath of the Lord thy God. Exo 20:10. Who are we to go against what He said.
The fact the "sabbath" is all over the NT is proof enough it didn't go anywhere for God's people.
Did the Sabbath end at the Cross as many teach?
No!
Acts 13:14
But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day and sat down.
Acts 13:27
For those who dwell in Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they did not know Him, nor even the voices of the Prophets which are read every Sabbath, have fulfilled them in condemning Him.
Acts 13:42
So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.
Acts 13:44
On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.
Acts 15:21
For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in every city, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath.”
Acts 16:13
And on the Sabbath day we went out of the city to the riverside, where prayer was customarily made; and we sat down and spoke to the women who met there.
Acts 17:2
Then Paul, as his custom was, went in to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures,
Acts 18:4
And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks.
Did Jesus teach it was going to end after His Cross
No!
Mat 24:20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath.
God predicted His faithful Sabbath-keeping people would be keeping it some 40 years later at the time of the destruction of Jerusalem
Does it end in the new heaven and new earth- Not according to Christ
Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass
That from one New Moon to another,
And from one Sabbath to another,
All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord
The change started in the 3rd Century by Constatine. It started off from Pagan sun worship and turned into Sunday worship. This was predicted in the bible Dan 7:25 Many Christians compromised their beliefs because they were being persecuted and murdered. God is looking for faithful people who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus Rev 22:14, man might be able to kill the body on this earth, but they can't kill the soul, only God can to that and why He tells us not to worry about the first death, its the second death we need to concern ourselves with. God is calling His people out of these false teachings that were handed down over the centuries from the RCC as we must worship Him in Truth and Spirit John 4:22-23 and ALL of His commandments are Truth Psa 119:151, including the one commandment, God said to Remember that He knew most would forget, that is holy and blessed by God. Serve God and worship Him- He wants nothing more than to bless His children and sanctify us because we can't do that ourselves Isa 66:17
Luke 23:56 Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment.
Heb 4:9 There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God;
The rest in this verse literally translates into Sabbath keeping
Original Word: σαββατισμός
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: sabbatismos
Pronunciation: sab-bat-is-mos'
Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos')
Definition: Sabbath rest
Meaning: a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest.
To enter God's rest one also ceases from their works, as God did, on the seventh day
Heb 4:10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.
Heb 4:4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”;
Mind you, God only gave a name to one day, the seventh day and called it the Sabbath of the Lord thy God. Exo 20:10. Who are we to go against what He said.
The fact the "sabbath" is all over the NT is proof enough it didn't go anywhere for God's people.
Did the Sabbath end at the Cross as many teach?
No!
Acts 13:14
But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day and sat down.
Acts 13:27
For those who dwell in Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they did not know Him, nor even the voices of the Prophets which are read every Sabbath, have fulfilled them in condemning Him.
Acts 13:42
So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.
Acts 13:44
On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.
Acts 15:21
For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in every city, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath.”
Acts 16:13
And on the Sabbath day we went out of the city to the riverside, where prayer was customarily made; and we sat down and spoke to the women who met there.
Acts 17:2
Then Paul, as his custom was, went in to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures,
Acts 18:4
And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks.
Did Jesus teach it was going to end after His Cross
No!
Mat 24:20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath.
God predicted His faithful Sabbath-keeping people would be keeping it some 40 years later at the time of the destruction of Jerusalem
Does it end in the new heaven and new earth- Not according to Christ
Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass
That from one New Moon to another,
And from one Sabbath to another,
All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord
The change started in the 3rd Century by Constatine. It started off from Pagan sun worship and turned into Sunday worship. This was predicted in the bible Dan 7:25 Many Christians compromised their beliefs because they were being persecuted and murdered. God is looking for faithful people who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus Rev 22:14, man might be able to kill the body on this earth, but they can't kill the soul, only God can to that and why He tells us not to worry about the first death, its the second death we need to concern ourselves with. God is calling His people out of these false teachings that were handed down over the centuries from the RCC as we must worship Him in Truth and Spirit John 4:22-23 and ALL of His commandments are Truth Psa 119:151, including the one commandment, God said to Remember that He knew most would forget, that is holy and blessed by God. Serve God and worship Him- He wants nothing more than to bless His children and sanctify us because we can't do that ourselves Isa 66:17
Breaking God's law is sin 1 John 3:4, the Sabbath was not a standalone commandment, it was part of the Ten Commandments Exo 34:28 Deut 4:13 written by God, God wrote and claimed them collectivity as "My commandments" Exo 20:6 breaking one in the NT we break them all James 2:10-12. There is no scripture that says we are saved in our sins Heb 10:26-30, Jesus wants to free us of that bondage and we are saved from sin Mat 1:21. If we love Jesus we would want to obey everything He asks and follow in His footsteps as He is our example to follow if we abide in Him. 1 John 2:5-6 John 15:10
To claim the Sabbath wasn't reaffirmed , a commandment, or kept by God's faithful in the NT is not being honest with the scriptures
To claim the Sabbath wasn't reaffirmed , a commandment, or kept by God's faithful in the NT is not being honest with the scriptures
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I am not a Pharisee, Jesus dealt with their traditions in the seventh chapter of Mark and Matthew 12.
[Mar 7:1-13 KJV] 1 Then came together unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem.
2 And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault.
3 For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash [their] hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders.
4 And [when they come] from the market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, [as] the washing of cups, and pots, brasen vessels, and of tables.
5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?
6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with [their] lips, but their heart is far from me.
7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching [for] doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, [as] the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. 10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, [It is] Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; [he shall be free].
12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
This is getting a little long but here is another encounter, this time over the Sabbath traditions of the Pharisees with all of their man made rules verses the proper observance of the law of God:
[Mat 12:1-2, 8-14 KJV] 1 At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat.
2 But when the Pharisees saw [it], they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day. ...
8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
9 And when he was departed thence, he went into their synagogue:
10 And, behold, there was a man which had [his] hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him.
11 And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift [it] out?
12 How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.
13 Then saith he to the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched [it] forth; and it was restored whole, like as the other.
14 Then the Pharisees went out, and held a council against him, how they might destroy him.
In this thread we are discussing the Seventh day Sabbath of the creator and the discussion has moved into areas that may cause confusion, but if you follow the words of Jesus in which he is contrasting the traditions of men vs. the commandments of God you can avoid confusion.
God numbers days, the seventh day is the Holy Sabbath day, blessed by God. While the first day, Sunday is a tradition of man based on immoral pagan principles of sun worship and brought into church as a compromise between pagans and the apostate church which is the Roman Catholic Church.
[Mar 7:1-13 KJV] 1 Then came together unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem.
2 And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault.
3 For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash [their] hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders.
4 And [when they come] from the market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, [as] the washing of cups, and pots, brasen vessels, and of tables.
5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?
6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with [their] lips, but their heart is far from me.
7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching [for] doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, [as] the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. 10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, [It is] Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; [he shall be free].
12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
This is getting a little long but here is another encounter, this time over the Sabbath traditions of the Pharisees with all of their man made rules verses the proper observance of the law of God:
[Mat 12:1-2, 8-14 KJV] 1 At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat.
2 But when the Pharisees saw [it], they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day. ...
8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
9 And when he was departed thence, he went into their synagogue:
10 And, behold, there was a man which had [his] hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him.
11 And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift [it] out?
12 How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.
13 Then saith he to the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched [it] forth; and it was restored whole, like as the other.
14 Then the Pharisees went out, and held a council against him, how they might destroy him.
In this thread we are discussing the Seventh day Sabbath of the creator and the discussion has moved into areas that may cause confusion, but if you follow the words of Jesus in which he is contrasting the traditions of men vs. the commandments of God you can avoid confusion.
God numbers days, the seventh day is the Holy Sabbath day, blessed by God. While the first day, Sunday is a tradition of man based on immoral pagan principles of sun worship and brought into church as a compromise between pagans and the apostate church which is the Roman Catholic Church.
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