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fredoheaven

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When individuals are prosecuted for a crime, a solid case is often built against them in court with multiple pieces of evidence. This creates a clear theme, leading to a conclusion. The same principle applies to the issue of Bible translations. I haven’t provided just one example but several, each illustrating a recurring theme: how Modern Bibles portray Jesus in ways that imply He could have sinned. It amounts to a denial of truth to dismiss the evident pattern we observe in Modern Bibles on this issue. And this isn't the only concern. I also have a list of nearly 20 points where Modern Bibles portray a distorted version of God, as well.

All Modern Bibles, even those often considered reputable, share a common theme of subtly undermining the Lord and His righteous ways, though it’s often hard to notice without close examination. When it comes to paraphrase Bibles like the NLT and GWT, they are based on the same foundational text as these so-called respected Bibles, the Nestle-Aland text, which draws from Vaticanus and Sinaiticus manuscripts. These translations also follow the same philosophy of an ever-shifting text that perpetually leaves room for errors, placing the burden on readers or scholars to determine which words belong or don’t. This approach relies more on guesswork and so-called “Science” than on simply trusting in God’s Word and His goodness as revealed plainly in Scripture.





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Yes, this makes Jesus a sinner if the clause was committed in the modern version for Jesus was angry at times as observed in the N.T. yet did not sin as a matter of fact Paul says of this anger and the same time we do not sin (Ephesians 4:26)

Ephesians 4:26 says, "Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath".
 

Genez

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Ephesians 4:26 says, "Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath".
The type of anger one has when in the Spirit, is an anger one can let go of and keep on moving in growing in grace and knowledge.
With no desire to seek revenge, for the Lord tells us if there is to be revenge, it will be from Himself.. not us.

Grace and peace! ...........
 

fredoheaven

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The type of anger one has when in the Spirit, is an anger one can let go of and keep on moving in growing in grace and knowledge.
With no desire to seek revenge, for the Lord tells us if there is to be revenge, it will be from Himself.. not us.

Grace and peace! ...........
Here is the one perfect verse to consider, I will let modern versions speak also. Mark 3:5 says

New International Version
He looked around at them in anger and, deeply distressed at their stubborn hearts, said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” He stretched it out, and his hand was completely restored.

New Living Translation
He looked around at them angrily and was deeply saddened by their hard hearts. Then he said to the man, “Hold out your hand.” So the man held out his hand, and it was restored!

English Standard Version
And he looked around at them with anger, grieved at their hardness of heart, and said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” He stretched it out, and his hand was restored.

Berean Standard Bible
Jesus looked around at them with anger and sorrow at their hardness of heart. Then He said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” So he stretched it out, and it was restored.

Berean Literal Bible
And having looked around on them with anger, being grieved at the hardness of their heart, He says to the man, "Stretch out your hand." And he stretched it out, and his hand was restored.

King James Bible
And when he had looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts, he saith unto the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it out: and his hand was restored whole as the other.
 

Genez

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Here is the one perfect verse to consider, I will let modern versions speak also. Mark 3:5 says

New International Version
He looked around at them in anger and, deeply distressed at their stubborn hearts, said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” He stretched it out, and his hand was completely restored.

New Living Translation
He looked around at them angrily and was deeply saddened by their hard hearts. Then he said to the man, “Hold out your hand.” So the man held out his hand, and it was restored!

English Standard Version
And he looked around at them with anger, grieved at their hardness of heart, and said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” He stretched it out, and his hand was restored.

Berean Standard Bible
Jesus looked around at them with anger and sorrow at their hardness of heart. Then He said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” So he stretched it out, and it was restored.

Berean Literal Bible
And having looked around on them with anger, being grieved at the hardness of their heart, He says to the man, "Stretch out your hand." And he stretched it out, and his hand was restored.

King James Bible
And when he had looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts, he saith unto the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it out: and his hand was restored whole as the other.

You can be angered at the sin.
Not angered at the sinner.

Let go, and move on after the anger settles.
 

GRACE_ambassador

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Those who believe the KJV Only propaganda, are also very limited.
I wish them well.
Thanks So Much for this info. Now let me get this straight: For the past 400+ years all who have believed and lived by The Words Of The KJB have been "very limited"? How does that idea then
stack up against The Following?:

living by EVERY Word (Matthew 4:4; Luke 4:4 AV)?

living by every PURE Word Of God (Psalm 12:6 AV)??

living by every Pure and PRESERVED Word Of God Almighty (Psalm 12:7 AV)???

Thus, how is that modern-day "UNlimited word" translations were "Preserved For ALL
generations" when
they did not even exist until years later, and after they started, we
can now Continuously Change / Correct God's Holy Words and then 'live by' them? And,
Where exactly is the Authorization for such a 'scholarly' idea? Rather than this kind of
man-made scholarship, I simply prefer:

The God That Is Always Consistent [ With Peace, Not Confusion 1 Corinthians 14:33 AV ]
and [
Hebrews 13:8 AV ] UNchangeable! And This In The Light Of This:

"I will worship toward Thy holy temple, and praise Thy Name for Thy Lovingkindness
and for Thy Truth: for Thou Hast Magnified Thy Word Above All Thy Name."​
(Psalm 138:2 AV)
Pray tell Which Word Is It That Is "Above All His Holy Name"?:
The One Consistent Word/Manuscripts!,​
or:
The Confusing Over One Hundred Ever-Changing versions/corrupt manuscripts???​

Surely then, I should hope I would "make the Right Choice"? and:
...keep on moving in growing in grace and knowledge...
Great idea; however since I am KJB only, I take it that means my "heavenly rewards of
gold, silver, and precious stones" (1 Corinthians 3:8-15 AV), after a long life of faithful
service to my Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, According To His Preserved Word for me:

will also be "VERY limited!" eh?

Grace, Peace, Mercy, And Love! to you, Precious friend -

and: Amen.
 

Genez

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Thanks So Much for this info. Now let me get this straight: For the past 400+ years all who have believed and lived by The Words Of The KJB have been "very limited"?
If you ever sat in a classroom and witnessed to the Word of God being actually exegeted you'd become very quiet.
 

Dino246

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Thanks So Much for this info. Now let me get this straight: For the past 400+ years all who have believed and lived by The Words Of The KJB have been "very limited"?
You're a nice guy, but you don't read too good. He didn't say anything about people who use or even prefer the KJV, but rather "those who believe the KJV Only propaganda".

... living by every Pure and PRESERVED Word Of God Almighty (Psalm 12:7 AV)???
Psalm 12:7 does not refer to the word of God, but to the people of God mentioned earlier in the Psalm. This is firmly established by sound research by qualified scholars who aren't swayed by devotion to the KJV. Only KJV-onlyists keep holding to this erroneous interpretation.