The rapture? The comimg of Christ.

[Psalm1]

I did so in an earlier post, either in this thread or the other one... but I'll try again here:


--where Matthew 24:39 says, "And THEY knew not until the flood came, and took THEM all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be"... the "THEY / THEM" who "KNEW NOT UNTIL" was not Noah (he KNEW! and he "knew" LONG BEFORE)... the "THEY / THEM" who "KNEW NOT UNTIL" was those who PERISHED in the flood judgment ("took them all [G537] away" in JUDGMENT);


--ALL "Son of man COMETH / COMING / SHALL COME / etc" passages (like the verse ^ above also) speak to the matter of His Second Coming TO THE EARTH (His *earthly* MK-age designation); Verses 37, 39, 44 use this phrase, as well as verse 30;


--Matthew 24:42-51 (same context) PARALLELS the context of Lk12:36-37,38,40,42-44,45-48, where v.36 states "when he will RETURN FROM the wedding..." (i.e. as an ALREADY-WED "Bridegroom")... THEN "the meal [G347--same word used in Matt8:11 and parallel, re: MK age]"... which is the SAME SEQUENCE we read of elsewhere (Rev19:7 distinct from Rev19:9);


--Matthew 24's wording of "AS the days of Noah were, SO SHALL ALSO the coming of the Son of man be"--We can COMPARE *parallel language* used in both Daniel 2:35c [His Second Coming TO THE EARTH] / Gen9:1 both of which SAY: "[actively] FILL / FILLED the [whole] EARTH" (recall, I've stated that the "still-living saints" at the END of the Trib yrs will ENTER the MK age IN THEIR MORTAL BODIES--as the ONLY ones with the capacity of reproducing / bearing children--[ONLY "saints / believers" will be GRANTED ENTRANCE to the MK age--NO "UNbelievers" will ENTER it!]); At the END of the MK age, it can say (as it does), "the number of whom is as the sand of the sea" (LOTSA people!)
... "one taken" is taken away IN JUDGMENT (just as in Noah's day); "one left" is LEFT on the earth, IN MORTAL BODIES, to FILL the earth (just as in Noah's day);


--the disciples' question of Jesus (in Matt24:3), re: "the end [singular] of the age [singular]," was BASED ON what He had ALREADY spoken to them about in Matthew 13:24,30,39,40,49-50 re: "the end [singular] of the age [singular]" (and they already knew of His previous words to that, about "the age [SINGULAR] TO COME" which they RIGHTLY UNDERSTOOD to mean [what we call] the *earthly* MK age); Jesus' RESPONSE (in TWO chpts--Mt24-25) pertains to THAT (TRIB [unfolding upon the EARTH]... SECOND COMING TO THE EARTH... EARTHLY MK AGE); Up to and INCLUDING His Olivet Discourse, He had NOT YET spoken ANYTHING about "our Rapture [IN THE AIR]"... but all about His Second Coming TO THE EARTH, FOR the promised and prophesied EARTHLY Millennial Kingdom age (which will commence upon His RETURN *there* / to the EARTH);



--[there was ANOTHER pertinent point I was going to put... but I can't recall at the moment... Perhaps this is sufficient for now... lol. But this post is in addition to what I've already written on this Subject earlier in one of these two threads...]








From what I can tell of your posts, you have UNBELIEVERS *entering* the MK age (which Scripture itself shows otherwise--in numerous passages...)

Nobody was " taken away" before the flood.

So nothing of your post applies.

Stick with Jesus's analogy.
Jesuscsaid " before the flood, one taken,one left"

You are transposing the world's population onto " before the flood"

The ONLY ONES removed before the flood were Noah and family.

I have no idea where you are getting all that other stuff.

Jesus said his coming is "BEFORE THE FLOOD"
But it gets worse.
Just
Jesus used Lot as a pretrib removal example.
Used both Noah and Lot as pretrib illustrations.

 

[Psalm1]

I did so in an earlier post, either in this thread or the other one... but I'll try again here:


--where Matthew 24:39 says, "And THEY knew not until the flood came, and took THEM all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be"... the "THEY / THEM" who "KNEW NOT UNTIL" was not Noah (he KNEW! and he "knew" LONG BEFORE)... the "THEY / THEM" who "KNEW NOT UNTIL" was those who PERISHED in the flood judgment ("took them all [G537] away" in JUDGMENT);


--ALL "Son of man COMETH / COMING / SHALL COME / etc" passages (like the verse ^ above also) speak to the matter of His Second Coming TO THE EARTH (His *earthly* MK-age designation); Verses 37, 39, 44 use this phrase, as well as verse 30;


--Matthew 24:42-51 (same context) PARALLELS the context of Lk12:36-37,38,40,42-44,45-48, where v.36 states "when he will RETURN FROM the wedding..." (i.e. as an ALREADY-WED "Bridegroom")... THEN "the meal [G347--same word used in Matt8:11 and parallel, re: MK age]"... which is the SAME SEQUENCE we read of elsewhere (Rev19:7 distinct from Rev19:9);


--Matthew 24's wording of "AS the days of Noah were, SO SHALL ALSO the coming of the Son of man be"--We can COMPARE *parallel language* used in both Daniel 2:35c [His Second Coming TO THE EARTH] / Gen9:1 both of which SAY: "[actively] FILL / FILLED the [whole] EARTH" (recall, I've stated that the "still-living saints" at the END of the Trib yrs will ENTER the MK age IN THEIR MORTAL BODIES--as the ONLY ones with the capacity of reproducing / bearing children--[ONLY "saints / believers" will be GRANTED ENTRANCE to the MK age--NO "UNbelievers" will ENTER it!]); At the END of the MK age, it can say (as it does), "the number of whom is as the sand of the sea" (LOTSA people!)
... "one taken" is taken away IN JUDGMENT (just as in Noah's day); "one left" is LEFT on the earth, IN MORTAL BODIES, to FILL the earth (just as in Noah's day);


--the disciples' question of Jesus (in Matt24:3), re: "the end [singular] of the age [singular]," was BASED ON what He had ALREADY spoken to them about in Matthew 13:24,30,39,40,49-50 re: "the end [singular] of the age [singular]" (and they already knew of His previous words to that, about "the age [SINGULAR] TO COME" which they RIGHTLY UNDERSTOOD to mean [what we call] the *earthly* MK age); Jesus' RESPONSE (in TWO chpts--Mt24-25) pertains to THAT (TRIB [unfolding upon the EARTH]... SECOND COMING TO THE EARTH... EARTHLY MK AGE); Up to and INCLUDING His Olivet Discourse, He had NOT YET spoken ANYTHING about "our Rapture [IN THE AIR]"... but all about His Second Coming TO THE EARTH, FOR the promised and prophesied EARTHLY Millennial Kingdom age (which will commence upon His RETURN *there* / to the EARTH);



--[there was ANOTHER pertinent point I was going to put... but I can't recall at the moment... Perhaps this is sufficient for now... lol. But this post is in addition to what I've already written on this Subject earlier in one of these two threads...]








From what I can tell of your posts, you have UNBELIEVERS *entering* the MK age (which Scripture itself shows otherwise--in numerous passages...)

In Matthew 24 you left out "before the flood"

You changed all verses by eliminating what Jesus said

 

[Psalm1]

"Then shall the King (Rev19:16 / 17:14 / say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom HAVING BEEN PREPARED for you FROM [APO (not "BEFORE [PRO]" as used elsewhere with this phrase)] the foundation of the world"

[again, COMPARE the wording in this SECTION, esp. v.31, to that of Matt19:28! re: the MK age]


--This is the SEPARATION judgment pertaining to "THE NATIONS"; the "SHEEP" of the nations will be GRANTED ENTRANCE INTO the MK age in this passage (because they themselves AIDED / BLESSED "the least of these My brethren" [vv.40,45--the believing remnant of Israel who will be being gravely persecuted] DURING the TRIB YEARS); Recall the "BLESS" / "CURSE" passages from the OT and what they pertain to;


--This "BLESSED" passage ^ CORRESPONDS to about 8 OTHER "BLESSED" passages speaking to the SAME point-in-time (and circumstances), i.e. their ENTRANCE INTO the promised and prophesied earthly Millennial Kingdom age (after having responded to the message having gone forth IN THAT TIME PERIOD: Matthew 24:14 / 26:13 "this gospel OF THE KINGDOM";


--the time-period (of very lengthy duration) known as "the Day of the Lord"... consists of [BOTH] "a period of time of JUDGMENTs [i.e. the Trib], followed by a period of time of BLESSING [i.e. the MK age]"--ALL OF THAT is what is known AS "the Day of the Lord" (it is NOT merely "a singular 24-hr day," nor does its ARRIVAL point in time commence at His Second Coming TO THE EARTH Rev19, but 7 YEARS PRIOR TO THAT POINT, at the FIRST SEAL aka the INITIAL "birth PANG [SINGULAR; 1Th5:1-3!]"--the first one of those that Jesus had LISTED in His reference to "the beginning of birth PANGS [PLURAL]";


--the disciples' question to Jesus (Matt24:3--and His response of TWO CHPTS) was BASED ON what He had ALREADY spoken to them about in Matt13:24,30,39,40,49-50 re: "the end [singular] of the age [singular]" (when the angels will "REAP")... and Matt13:24 of that passage (their Q was BASED on) speaks of "the kingdom OF THE heavenS [on the earth]," another term for "the promised and prophesied EARTHLY Millennial Kingdom age"--Matthew 13 is another passage showing the "STILL-LIVING" persons (at the time of His Second Coming TO THE EARTH) showing just who it is who will be granted ENTRANCE INTO the MK age ("the age [SINGULAR] TO COME" that the PREVIOUS chpt Jesus had spoken of, and they well-understood WHAT it is [tho not its TIMING]);





What many have done is to [incorrectly] RELOCATE many of these passages to the GWTj time-slot (AFTER the 1000 yrs), but that is NOT what these are speaking to. The reason they do this, is because of a FAULTY understanding of the phrase "IN the LAST DAY" (see Hosea 5:14-6:3; see Job19:25-27 for the "WHEN" of what Job knew he'd be resurrected ['to stand again' (on the earth)]; etc)

--It is NOT referring to the "last" SINGULAR 24-HOUR DAY kind of "day," but the LAST MILLENNIUM (the 7th and "LAST")--ALL "saints" will have been "resurrected" IN TIME FOR THIS (see again Matt8:11--a reference to the MK age);

--Where Scripture says, "Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad," this refers to the [yet future] Millennial Kingdom age ['DAY'] (Matt8:11 again [note: WITH THE "NATIONS"... shall "G347" in "the kingdom OF THE heavenS"--the earthly MK age]);

--Where Scripture says in Ex31:13,17 says that the "SEVENTH DAY / SABBATH" is "A SIGN between Me and the children of Israel for ever," it is speaking to the MK age [7th Millennium]; and Heb4:9's "SABBATISMOS" speaks also to this. (So it will be "the believing remnant of Israel" [not US] who, DURING the TRIB years, will be "INVITING" the "NATIONS" *TO* it/the MK age--those who accept that invitation will be "BLESSED" to ENTER the MK-age)

... and way too many other passages to name here...





[a thorough study of the CHRONOLOGY ISSUES is of great help in this matter; Many are confused about it]

Rev 19:15 says he comes on white horses and rules the nation's with a rod of iron.
Completely different from your theory that no ungodly enter the MK.

 

[Psalm1]

"Then shall the King (Rev19:16 / 17:14 / say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom HAVING BEEN PREPARED for you FROM [APO (not "BEFORE [PRO]" as used elsewhere with this phrase)] the foundation of the world"

[again, COMPARE the wording in this SECTION, esp. v.31, to that of Matt19:28! re: the MK age]


--This is the SEPARATION judgment pertaining to "THE NATIONS"; the "SHEEP" of the nations will be GRANTED ENTRANCE INTO the MK age in this passage (because they themselves AIDED / BLESSED "the least of these My brethren" [vv.40,45--the believing remnant of Israel who will be being gravely persecuted] DURING the TRIB YEARS); Recall the "BLESS" / "CURSE" passages from the OT and what they pertain to;


--This "BLESSED" passage ^ CORRESPONDS to about 8 OTHER "BLESSED" passages speaking to the SAME point-in-time (and circumstances), i.e. their ENTRANCE INTO the promised and prophesied earthly Millennial Kingdom age (after having responded to the message having gone forth IN THAT TIME PERIOD: Matthew 24:14 / 26:13 "this gospel OF THE KINGDOM";


--the time-period (of very lengthy duration) known as "the Day of the Lord"... consists of [BOTH] "a period of time of JUDGMENTs [i.e. the Trib], followed by a period of time of BLESSING [i.e. the MK age]"--ALL OF THAT is what is known AS "the Day of the Lord" (it is NOT merely "a singular 24-hr day," nor does its ARRIVAL point in time commence at His Second Coming TO THE EARTH Rev19, but 7 YEARS PRIOR TO THAT POINT, at the FIRST SEAL aka the INITIAL "birth PANG [SINGULAR; 1Th5:1-3!]"--the first one of those that Jesus had LISTED in His reference to "the beginning of birth PANGS [PLURAL]";


--the disciples' question to Jesus (Matt24:3--and His response of TWO CHPTS) was BASED ON what He had ALREADY spoken to them about in Matt13:24,30,39,40,49-50 re: "the end [singular] of the age [singular]" (when the angels will "REAP")... and Matt13:24 of that passage (their Q was BASED on) speaks of "the kingdom OF THE heavenS [on the earth]," another term for "the promised and prophesied EARTHLY Millennial Kingdom age"--Matthew 13 is another passage showing the "STILL-LIVING" persons (at the time of His Second Coming TO THE EARTH) showing just who it is who will be granted ENTRANCE INTO the MK age ("the age [SINGULAR] TO COME" that the PREVIOUS chpt Jesus had spoken of, and they well-understood WHAT it is [tho not its TIMING]);





What many have done is to [incorrectly] RELOCATE many of these passages to the GWTj time-slot (AFTER the 1000 yrs), but that is NOT what these are speaking to. The reason they do this, is because of a FAULTY understanding of the phrase "IN the LAST DAY" (see Hosea 5:14-6:3; see Job19:25-27 for the "WHEN" of what Job knew he'd be resurrected ['to stand again' (on the earth)]; etc)

--It is NOT referring to the "last" SINGULAR 24-HOUR DAY kind of "day," but the LAST MILLENNIUM (the 7th and "LAST")--ALL "saints" will have been "resurrected" IN TIME FOR THIS (see again Matt8:11--a reference to the MK age);

--Where Scripture says, "Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad," this refers to the [yet future] Millennial Kingdom age ['DAY'] (Matt8:11 again [note: WITH THE "NATIONS"... shall "G347" in "the kingdom OF THE heavenS"--the earthly MK age]);

--Where Scripture says in Ex31:13,17 says that the "SEVENTH DAY / SABBATH" is "A SIGN between Me and the children of Israel for ever," it is speaking to the MK age [7th Millennium]; and Heb4:9's "SABBATISMOS" speaks also to this. (So it will be "the believing remnant of Israel" [not US] who, DURING the TRIB years, will be "INVITING" the "NATIONS" *TO* it/the MK age--those who accept that invitation will be "BLESSED" to ENTER the MK-age)

... and way too many other passages to name here...





[a thorough study of the CHRONOLOGY ISSUES is of great help in this matter; Many are confused about it]

Rev17:14 is Jesus destroying the AC and his army. Not earth's population.

I get what you're doing here Because when you went To Luke 24 You try to incorporate all of Earth's population being wiped out To Jesus Coming. wherever you may place that I'm not even sure . Instead of placing it correctly where Jesus said before the flood one taken one left. So by misconstruing all that and getting all of that wrong Now there's other places in the Bible That your Doctrine is just completely screwed up

 

[ewq1938]

There WILL be those BORN in / during the MK age (and they are not "BORN automatically RIGHTEOUS"--

You deny scripture has UNBELIEVERS *entering* the MK age yet you describe this happening through birth, and maybe forgetting children have to have a mother to be birthed from? You are giving evidence to disprove your own position. Obviously unbelievers are entering the MK in your view, from parents that enter it, and children that enter it.

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

Rev17:14 is Jesus destroying the AC and his army. Not earth's population.

I get what you're doing here Because when you went To Luke 24 You try to incorporate all of Earth's population being wiped out To Jesus Coming. wherever you may place that I'm not even sure . Instead of placing it correctly where Jesus said before the flood one taken one left. So by misconstruing all that and getting all of that wrong Now there's other places in the Bible That your Doctrine is just completely screwed up

No. What I am pointing out is that "Rev19:16 / Rev17:14" (Armageddon time-slot) is in the SAME CONTEXT AS the following (have you read Rev19 lately?):

--Rev19 -
Rev 19:18 [where He's telling the fowls: "saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;" in the preceding verse]
That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. [<--this is not LIMITING it ONLY to the AC and his army (of Armageddon) alone, NO! But also "the flesh OF ALL MEN..." (not just those present locally at the war of Armageddon)--THIS IS ALSO what Luke 17:27,29 speaks to, where it says, "and destroyed [G622] them-ALL [G537]" (THAT is a "Second Coming TO THE EARTH" *CONTEXT* when THIS happens!)]
[...]
Rev 19:20
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Rev 19:21
And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh. [this INCLUDES persons who'd taken the mark (THE UNSAVED of that time period), per v.20 alluding to them]




So, bottom line, even "Rev19:16 [/17:14]" ARMAGEDDON time-slot itself (the TIME-SLOT) refers to other [unsaved] people (in the whole world) BEYOND just the ones involved locally in that war, as being among who will be "slain" (that the "fowls" will feast on);
but yeah, we can also look elsewhere (to other references to this same time-slot) to see THE SAME thing.

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

Jesus said his coming is "BEFORE THE FLOOD"

The text says, "BEFORE THE FLOOD" they were doing this and that (normal things of this earth)--They DISREGARDED the Word of God via Noah (who "KNEW" of God's coming judgment [and took YEARS to "prepare the ark" as commanded]; and who was a "preacher of righteousness"); So this is no different from saying (for example), "[at the "6th Trumpet [events] / 2nd Woe time-frame--that is IN the SECOND HALF, even!] [they shall] REJOICE... and MAKE MERRY, and THEY SHALL SEND GIFTS TO ONE ANOTHER; because these two prophets [the '2W'] tormented them that dwelt on the earth." Rev11:10 (these DISREGARDED the Word of God via these "2W"...)

But it gets worse.
Just
Jesus used Lot as a pretrib removal example.
Used both Noah and Lot as pretrib illustrations.

I DISAGREE that these two are "examples / illustrations" OF THAT [/our Rapture]. No.


SEE AGAIN the Lk 17 [version OF SAME], which I just pointed out in my previous post about the vv.27,29 reference to "and destroyed [G622] them-ALL [G537]" (which is NOT what takes place once "our Rapture" occurs!!!) -

Luk 17:24
For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.
[...]
Luk 17:26
And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
Luk 17:27
They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed [G622] them all [G537].
Luk 17:28
Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
Luk 17:29
But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed [G622] them all [G537].

[note that these BOLDED PARTS (same CONTEXT) is NOT what takes place at the TIME OF "OUR RAPTURE"... but IS what will take place at the time of HIS SECOND COMING TO THE EARTH... as many other passages speaking to THAT point-in-time AGREE]

 

[Psalm1]

1 Thessalonians 4:15-16, Matthew 24:29-31.

Same event, same language, and oh look, after the tribulation of those days.

Im not too concerned with the "tribulation" anyways as the great tribulation for the jews happened nearly 2000 years ago.

By omitting the next verses, which is basic error ( omit and get the ones incorporated backwards) you have a "one two punch" of GUARANTEED ERROR.
1) You omit "Noah gathered before the flood"
2) You omit Jesus himself saying his coming is BEFORE THE FLOOD
3) You omit the ones taken/ left is DECLARED before the flood.

All three dynamics are a few sentences after you only verse in Matthew 24.
You omitted for a reason, or failed to investigate.
Your doctrine is poorly thought out and DEPENDS on omission.

 

[Psalm1]

No. What I am pointing out is that "Rev19:16 / Rev17:14" (Armageddon time-slot) is in the SAME CONTEXT AS the following (have you read Rev19 lately?):

--Rev19 -
Rev 19:18 [where He's telling the fowls: "saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;" in the preceding verse]
That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. [<--this is not LIMITING it ONLY to the AC and his army (of Armageddon) alone, NO! But also "the flesh OF ALL MEN..." (not just those present locally at the war of Armageddon)--THIS IS ALSO what Luke 17:27,29 speaks to, where it says, "and destroyed [G622] them-ALL [G537]" (THAT is a "Second Coming TO THE EARTH" *CONTEXT* when THIS happens!)]
[...]
Rev 19:20
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Rev 19:21
And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh. [this INCLUDES persons who'd taken the mark (THE UNSAVED of that time period), per v.20 alluding to them]




So, bottom line, even "Rev19:16 [/17:14]" ARMAGEDDON time-slot itself (the TIME-SLOT) refers to other [unsaved] people (in the whole world) BEYOND just the ones involved locally in that war, as being among who will be "slain" (that the "fowls" will feast on);
but yeah, we can also look elsewhere (to other references to this same time-slot) to see THE SAME thing.

Ahem.
That battle is at a certain place in Israel.

So, no, you are totally wrong about earth's population destroyed.

 

[Psalm1]

The text says, "BEFORE THE FLOOD" they were doing this and that (normal things of this earth)--They DISREGARDED the Word of God via Noah (who "KNEW" of God's coming judgment [and took YEARS to "prepare the ark" as commanded]; and who was a "preacher of righteousness"); So this is no different from saying (for example), "[at the "6th Trumpet [events] / 2nd Woe time-frame--that is IN the SECOND HALF, even!] [they shall] REJOICE... and MAKE MERRY, and THEY SHALL SEND GIFTS TO ONE ANOTHER; because these two prophets [the '2W'] tormented them that dwelt on the earth." Rev11:10 (these DISREGARDED the Word of God via these "2W"...)



I DISAGREE that these two are "examples / illustrations" OF THAT [/our Rapture]. No.


SEE AGAIN the Lk 17 [version OF SAME], which I just pointed out in my previous post about the vv.27,29 reference to "and destroyed [G622] them-ALL [G537]" (which is NOT what takes place once "our Rapture" occurs!!!) -

Luk 17:24
For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.
[...]
Luk 17:26
And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
Luk 17:27
They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed [G622] them all [G537].
Luk 17:28
Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
Luk 17:29
But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed [G622] them all [G537].

[note that these BOLDED PARTS (same CONTEXT) is NOT what takes place at the TIME OF "OUR RAPTURE"... but IS what will take place at the time of HIS SECOND COMING TO THE EARTH... as many other passages speaking to THAT point-in-time AGREE]

Nope both Lot And Noah are pretrib dynamics.
You actually left out the THREE DYNAMICS OF JESUS IN BEFORE THE FLOOD.
YOU OMITTED ALL CONTEXT, then proceeded.
You actually based your theory on omission.