(Psalms 103:5) (Is The Earth is Not a Globe or is The Earth a Globe?)

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Which poll answer do you believe is the correct one?

  • I believe the earth is NOT a globe and I DON'T believe Psalms 103:5.

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  • I believe the earth IS a globe and I DON'T believe Psalms 103:5.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
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Gideon300

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I'm pretty sure it's been pointed out every time this alleged "truth" has been raised by ball-Earthers, that the flights do not cross the actual "south pole" and most certainly don't take a short cut through Antarctica. Don't believe everything you Google, and do try to debate the actual arguments made by Flat Earthers and not straw men of your choosing.
It is impossible to debate flat earthers. It's about as useful as debating evolutionists. You have no arguments. Everything you say has been debunked countless times. Therefore there is no debate.
 

JTB

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I am talking about real exploration, not guided tours. You understand there is a difference, right? So this really just highlights your own ignorance and desire to believe everything you read.
Right back atcha
 

Gideon300

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I am talking about real exploration, not guided tours. You understand there is a difference, right? So this really just highlights your own ignorance and desire to believe everything you read.
Tell me one flat earther who has explored the earth and mapped it. I suppose he went in a straight line and went over the edge.
 

Conformed

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The aeronaut can see for himself that Earth is a Plane. The appearance presented to him, even at the highest elevation he has ever attained, is that of a concave surface—this being exactly what is to be expected of a surface that is truly level, since it is the nature of level surfaces to appear to rise to a level with the eye of the observer. This is ocular demonstration and proof that Earth is not a globe.
 

Dino246

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The aeronaut can see for himself that Earth is a Plane. The appearance presented to him, even at the highest elevation he has ever attained, is that of a concave surface—this being exactly what is to be expected of a surface that is truly level, since it is the nature of level surfaces to appear to rise to a level with the eye of the observer. This is ocular demonstration and proof that Earth is not a globe.
You use big words without understanding what they mean when put together. It's clear to me that your capacity for comprehension is far exceeded by your delusion.
 

posthuman

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1) A tour which requires a government permit is *not* exploration.
2) The tour map provided on the link page you gave does not even allegedly cross the "south pole".

I'm not going to respond to your comments in future unless you include some sort of evidence with your claims, as it seems to me that you are just posting obvious falsehoods that are easily refuted with a few minutes investigation.

Ball Earth accepted map of Antarctica (with approximate tour location and actual south pole as believed by ball-Earthers circled - note these are different locations).
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Cruise location.
https://poseidonexpeditions.com/antarctica/antarctic-peninsula-best-of-antarctica/287/

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I don't think you clicked my link.

This is the flight map, and there are photos on the site of a plane at the pole.

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it's easy for you to sit in a chair and claim it's all fake.
But here is a opportunity for you to go see for yourself.

All I was doing was showing that 5 seconds of googling disproves your claim that there are "no flights to the south pole ever" - that's misinformation.
 

JTB

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The aeronaut can see for himself that Earth is a Plane. The appearance presented to him, even at the highest elevation he has ever attained, is that of a concave surface—this being exactly what is to be expected of a surface that is truly level, since it is the nature of level surfaces to appear to rise to a level with the eye of the observer. This is ocular demonstration and proof that Earth is not a globe.
A flat surface appears concave? That doesn't appear in all your photos and memes.

I'd like to see a picture of your arms ... 'cause that's some reach ya got there!
 

Conformed

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Whenever experiments have been tried on the surface of standing water, this surface has always been found to be level. If the Earth were a globe, the surface of all standing water would be convex. This is an experimental proof that Earth is not a globe,
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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You use big words without understanding what they mean when put together. It's clear to me that your capacity for comprehension is far exceeded by your delusion.

I don't know why they're choosing to deceive themselves and trying to deceive others. And they do this everyday. It piles up and they don't realize it....


🥙
 

posthuman

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Dino246

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Whenever experiments have been tried on the surface of standing water, this surface has always been found to be level. If the Earth were a globe, the surface of all standing water would be convex. This is an experimental proof that Earth is not a globe,
The human eye is incapable of detecting the difference in ”level” of water over small distances (up to a few miles). You are making claims beyond your capacity to know.

When you feel curious, do some research on the towers of the Verrazano Narrows Bridge in New York. You might be surprised.
 

Dino246

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I don't know why they're choosing to deceive themselves and trying to deceive others. And they do this everyday. It piles up and they don't realize it....


🥙
Agreed. Thankfully, God is merciful and gracious. He wants even flat Earthers to come to repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth. 😎
 

Conformed

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Surveyors’ operations in the construction of railroads, tunnels, or canals are conducted without the slightest “allowance” being made for “curvature,” although it is taught that this so-called allowance is absolutely necessary! This is a cutting proof that Earth is not a globe.
 
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it makes them feel special, i think.
You think it makes us feel special to argue with stubborn people whose worldview is in conflict with basic science and yet who talk down to us as if we're the stupid ones? :rolleyes:

You should get some better hobbies if so! ;)
 
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I don't think you clicked my link.

This is the flight map, and there are photos on the site of a plane at the pole.

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it's easy for you to sit in a chair and claim it's all fake.
But here is a opportunity for you to go see for yourself.

All I was doing was showing that 5 seconds of googling disproves your claim that there are "no flights to the south pole ever" - that's misinformation.
Okay, this is more useful. But you will note that my statement was that "the flights do not cross the actual "south pole" and most certainly don't take a short cut through Antarctica."

Your map from the tourist company doesn't show either of these things. And if you looked into it further, you'd find that even ball Earthers admit that the "ceremonial" south pole advertised on the map by the tourist company is not the "real" south pole. Why not put the ceremonial south pole at the real south pole, if the real south pole does indeed exist and can be so readily visited by tourists? :rolleyes:
 

Dino246

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Surveyors’ operations in the construction of railroads, tunnels, or canals are conducted without the slightest “allowance” being made for “curvature,” although it is taught that this so-called allowance is absolutely necessary! This is a cutting proof that Earth is not a globe.
More rank ignorance. There is no need to make allowance for the Earth’s curvature when building such systems because “level” follows the Earth’s curvature perfectly. Engineers and surveyors use “level” as the reference.
 

Dino246

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You think it makes us feel special to argue with stubborn people whose worldview is in conflict with basic science and yet who talk down to us as if we're the stupid ones? :rolleyes:

You should get some better hobbies if so! ;)
“Our” worldview is in conflict with basic science? Which science, exactly?
 

posthuman

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Surveyors’ operations in the construction of railroads, tunnels, or canals are conducted without the slightest “allowance” being made for “curvature,” although it is taught that this so-called allowance is absolutely necessary! This is a cutting proof that Earth is not a globe.
that's both false information and a false conclusion.

the earth is big, hence the local curvature small.
you don't need to include the curvature for relatively small scale construction - so your conclusion is false.
But for very large scale things like bridges across the Florida keys, you do. and for tall buildings the coriolis force ((which is directly calculated from the earth's rotation)) must be taken into account - so your statement is also false.
 

posthuman

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Okay, this is more useful. But you will note that my statement was that "the flights do not cross the actual "south pole" and most certainly don't take a short cut through Antarctica."

Your map from the tourist company doesn't show either of these things. And if you looked into it further, you'd find that even ball Earthers admit that the "ceremonial" south pole advertised on the map by the tourist company is not the "real" south pole. Why not put the ceremonial south pole at the real south pole, if the real south pole does indeed exist and can be so readily visited by tourists? :rolleyes:
commercial flights don't cross the pole because it's not the shortest path, why would they?

flights from San Francisco to Chicago don't cross Belize. So what