The hatred of Jews

[cv5]

Lol. Says the nutter who claims others are anti-semites and racists for the violent and unChristian straw men he builds for them, and who can't put a coherent argument together? Not today, thank you, Rothschild Zionist. I don't worship the Rothschilds nor those their ill-gotten wealth has spawned. Their corrupt wealth will perish with them.

Whatever smokescreen you might use for cover, the steady stream of red "X"s are an infallible testimony to your outrage and boiling rancor toward the simple fact that there is now a nation Israel that actually exists. And actually inhabits the land of their former possession.

Fortunately, I do not suffer from this odious malady of yours.
On the contrary, I am THRILLED that God has preserved the Jews, proving Himself faithful.
An even more thrilled to see that God's end-of-the-age scenario so declared in so many prophecies is coming to pass,
which is a comfort to me and a great bolster to my faith in His faithfulness, grace and truth.

Go ahead.....call the present day Jews who now reside in Israel Ashkenazi frauds.
Go ahead, call this pre-gathering an hoax and a conspiracy by super-evil Rothchild Zionists.

The wise who can see won't believe a word of it. And that's all that really matters.

 

[cv5]

This actually made me laugh. It's clear there in black and white in the scriptures, but the response from the Rothschild Zionists is "Nope". As I said, I think they pick and choose only those scriptures that support their false religion - the other scriptures they ignore. How about the one below? Arguably one of the most heroic Israelites of them all (Moses), yet God is about to kill him for breaking the covenant. And their answer is just "Nope". Lol.

Exodus 4:21 - 26
21 And the Lord said unto Moses, When thou goest to return into Egypt, see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in thine hand: but I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the people go.
22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:
23 And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn.
24 And it came to pass by the way in the inn, that the Lord met him, and sought to kill him.
25 Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me.
26 So he let him go: then she said, A bloody husband thou art, because of the circumcision.

Fortunately, the Old Covenant is no longer a thing.
Did you forget about that?

 

[Moses_Young]

Whatever smokescreen you might use for cover, the steady stream of red "X"s are an infallible testimony to your outrage and boiling rancor toward the simple fact that there is now a nation Israel that actually exists. And actually inhabits the land of their former possession.

Lol. Have you ever read the Screwtape Letters, by CS Lewis? If not, you should do. There's a character in it that reminds me of you.

Note that I put red x's for your correction that you may become wise, not because of my outrage and boiling rancor (lol!), although I presume because you mention these as you suffer from such a malady? I'll try not to red x you unless it's really necessary!

 

[Moses_Young]

Fortunately, the Old Covenant is not longer a thing.
Did you forget about that?

Oh, a Rothschild Zionist that hasn't thrown out the book of Galatians? Very good. So how do you deal with Genesis 17, verses 13 and 14? Everlasting? That word that you use to justify carrying on your Rothschild Zionism to this very day?

Genesis 17:13 - 14
He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.
And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.

If the covenant of circumcision is over (actually fulfilled in Christ), how much more this extremist belief that Rothschild Zionist Israel has taken the place of Old Testament Israel? Old Testament Israel was fulfilled in Christ, just like circumcision. There is no longer any requirement for circumcision, just like there isn't (and never was) any requirement for Rothschild Zionist Israel to carry on the legacy of Old Testament Israel.

 

[cv5]

Note that I put red x's for your correction that you may become wise, not because of my outrage and boiling rancor (lol!), although I presume because you mention these as you suffer from such a malady?

Its wise to hate somebody? I think not.
Its even less wise to despise the people that Paul loves. And God loves.

Isa 45:17
But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting H5769 salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world H5769 without end.

Isa 51:11
Therefore the redeemed of the LORD shall return, and come with singing unto Zion; and everlasting H5769 joy shall be upon their head: they shall obtain gladness and joy; and sorrow and mourning shall flee away.

Isa 54:8
In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting H5769 kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer.

Rev 7:4
And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

Rev 21:12
And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:

 

[Moses_Young]

Its wise to hate somebody? I think not.
Its even less wise to despise the people that Paul loves. And God loves.

And yet you despise me - a true Jew - loved by Paul and God - and hate these of my Christian brothers and sisters likewise so loved, who speak to you truthfully. Tsk, tsk, tsk, CV5. Dost thou not see what thou doest?

 

[cv5]

And yet you despise me - a true Jew - and hate these of us my Christian brothers and sisters who speak to you truthfully. Tsk, tsk, tsk, CV5. Dost thou not see what thou doest?

And there you go again. Absolutely bonkers irrational unhinged nuttery.

My posts are replete with me declaring that that I love the Jews (over and over and over again).....and you twist it and accuse me of hating them.

I say that I do not hate anyone, and you accuse me of hating everyone.

Such is the outpouring of a sick mind and heart. Tragic indeed.

Oh and BTW, you say that you are actually a son of Jacob by lineage (you just did right now yet again), but without proof which YOU SAY is ONLY contained in Temple genealogical records NOW DESTROYED, and yet you accuse anybody you want as fraud Ashkenazi Jews, fake Jews or whatever.....AS IF SOMEHOW YOU KNOW. How? How do you know? Tell us how do you know?

And NO, I have NEVER challenged ANYONE'S claim that they are of the lineage of Jacob.
ONLY YOU HAVE. YOU JUST DID IT AGAIN SEVERAL TIMES THIS MORNING.

And as I have said MANY TIMES, I do NOT KNOW who is a legitimate son of Jacob and who is not. Nor does it matter to me, nor can I prove it one way or another, nor can I confirm or deny it.

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So go ahead.....rave all you want about the geopolitics of Israels existence. Hate anybody you want. Accuse anybody you want.
I shall be watching your behavior and actions, and I will remain vigilant, being careful to remain innocent of such egregious sins.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

This is where those declaring "Anti-Semitic!" are wrong - not having actual proof of such.

Consider (large font just for effect):

Why on earth would someone declare that someone else "hates Jews" when all that someone else has said is that they have low regard for a [group of] people who they themselves do not believe are [real] Jews ?!?!?!?!?!

My penguin pal, you just answered your own question! Having "low regard for a group of people" is called racism. Like "all blacks are lazy" or "all Indians like to drink" You are targeting an entire group of people, a race, saying they are all impostors. That is the very meaning and heart of racism!

Now - just think about that for a while - let it sink in...

(Is not such an accusation unjustified and a bit unfair?)

No, it's not at all unfair. It's called racism, and with Jews, Antisemitism.

If I were to say that I did not believe the folks in Canada were [real] Canadians - does that automatically mean that "I hate all of [real] Canadians"...???

Come on, now - think about what you are declaring without cause.

Do not allow emotion to be the driving force in your reasoning.

I can't really see why or how you're trying to defend this POV. If you said you don't believe the Canucks in Canada are real, then who are they? They are lying about who they are, trying to deceive the rest of the world. They would be frauds. You're saying they are intending to trick people and get sympathy and help they don't deserve. It certainly wouldn't mean you like Canadians! But you're not talking about just a country but a race and you are accusing them of being lying fakes, all of them. That's called racism.

So????? Why do you keep saying this? What are you hoping to gain by repeating it?

The same reason anyone calls out racism when they hear it. Because it's wrong. Most of us learned that as a child.

The OP had opportunity to create a thread about her concern for "an imbalance in political support regarding Israel-Palestine issues" - which she perceives as "hatred" for Jews. What would be different if the OP was not a person of Jewish descent? Is the 'concern' only valid if it is a person of Jewish descent?

I'm not Jewish, that I know of, and I've said the same thing as the OP.

Has your confidence in your beliefs with regard to the thread topic really fallen so far that you are willing to grasp at every possible available "straw" to garner support "for the cause"...???

Yeah, the kids today would call that throwin' shade. I'm against racism wherever I see it and I will always speak up against it. Always!

If you study what the BIBLE says very carefully, you should discover that it will be God/Jesus - without any help from man - Who will restore Israel as a nation - according to biblical prophecy - at/after the Second Coming of Christ.

Well now you don't know who God will use. God isn't going to physically pick a Jew up in His arms and fly them over to Israel. Man made airplanes or boats will do that. So that's point one. Point two, no one has said the nation is restored yet. No one has said this isn't a future event. You keep saying this like you're teaching something. Yet no one made any of these claims.

Not yet they haven't - "just as God promised"...

(keep studying)

Yes, they have again the land God promised and their return will continue. Israel was the nation born in a day. They are the dry bones that will live again. Just as God promised!!

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Truth be told, I'll read or watch anything shared in fairness to see what their position is. For instance, a few days ago I was watching that 30min Ben Shapiro video Magenta shared. He started strong but then began omitting verifiable facts so after a while I was like "ok pal".

Ben is a very quick witted person. May I ask at what point you feel he went wrong? I think I may have watched the video before it was posted here. But I'd take a second look if you point out where he went wrong.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

On another note, I am sure this guy is completely objective. from the links posted above.

Uri Resnick has a PhD in International Relations from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Israel.
He has authored articles in conflict studies and on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and has taught courses on Applied Game Theory at the Interdisciplinary Center Herzliya, Israel.
An Israeli career diplomat, Resnick has served as a policy advisor to Israel's Minister of Foreign Affairs and currently serves as Deputy Consul General of Israel in Los Angeles, USA.

Right, a Jew can't be objective or tell the truth.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Yes, they think we are like them reading and taking in one only one side.
Shapiro presents information very selectively.

In what manner?

 

[cv5]

Right, a Jew can't be objective or tell the truth.

Even more so since he cannot gain access to Temple genealogical records to prove his identity.

And yes, I had better mark this post as "sarcasm", lest I be attacked and accused.

 

[Needevidence]

Its wise to hate somebody? I think not.
Its even less wise to despise the people that Paul loves. And God loves.

Isa 45:17
But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting H5769 salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world H5769 without end.

Isa 51:11
Therefore the redeemed of the LORD shall return, and come with singing unto Zion; and everlasting H5769 joy shall be upon their head: they shall obtain gladness and joy; and sorrow and mourning shall flee away.

Isa 54:8
In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting H5769 kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer.

Rev 7:4
And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

Rev 21:12
And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:

Your ignoring my response to you explaining the forever and everlasting conveniently - the same problem with Isa you have quoted - ignore and divert when you have no answer - I understand.

I presume the 144,000 includes those from the beginning the righteous ones at the time of Jacob - not a lot is it?

Wonder why Israel banned DNA?

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Sounds like modern PC "hate speech" BS.

( Which is exactly what it is. )

What makes it hateful, my penguin pal, is that many of these people will not come out and say it, but they believe Israel got what it deserved on Oct 7, or at least they aren't entirely innocent. And they are more upset over what's happening in Gaza than the innocent dead Jews on Oct 7. No one gave them a heads up that Hamas was coming. No one put up a newsflash or sent a note saying move out we're coming. No, Hamas just slaughtered them like sheep. Yet still, Israel gave them a curtsy call they were coming, to move out. No other country does that.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Even more so since he cannot gain access to Temple genealogical records to prove his identity.

And yes, I had better mark this post as "sarcasm", lest I be attacked and accused.

Where did they get this idea that Abraham isn't the father of the Jews?!

 

[cv5]

Oh, a Rothschild Zionist that hasn't thrown out the book of Galatians? Very good. So how do you deal with Genesis 17, verses 13 and 14? Everlasting? That word that you use to justify carrying on your Rothschild Zionism to this very day?

Genesis 17:13 - 14
He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.
And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.

If the covenant of circumcision is over (actually fulfilled in Christ), how much more this extremist belief that Rothschild Zionist Israel has taken the place of Old Testament Israel? Old Testament Israel was fulfilled in Christ, just like circumcision. There is no longer any requirement for circumcision, just like there isn't (and never was) any requirement for Rothschild Zionist Israel to carry on the legacy of Old Testament Israel.

Oh but it may be that physical circumcision WILL be ordained of Israelites......IN THE MILLENIUM.
Nobody knows for sure, but is certainly is a strong possibility. We know for CERTAIN that there
will be a Millennial Temple, services, and sacrifices.

You see, this present age is the "CHURCH AGE". Where no believer must needs be circumcised.

However, the Church age is ending. And soon.

Afterwards, Israel will ONCE AGAIN be recommission to service. And they will serve as preachers to gentiles in the millennium, finally FAITHFULLY fulfilling their original mandate.

In other words, God (for His glory) is going to give Israel a "second shot". And this time they will not miss.

 

[MeowFlower]

That's exactly what I look for.



Riight. That's scholarship. Taking a middle road while understanding where people are coming from. Understanding the full picture. And it's mature to have scholarly disagreements but when the person has to resort to ad hominem that's when they've lost because they're no longer addressing the content.

Let's be clear.

You are not a scholar.

You post against the actual Scriptures in the Bible using long known Antisemitic hoaxes,Christian Identity rhetoric, and reworked excerpts from The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. That's not scholarship. That's Ad Hominem on a constant basis.

You stand with Hamas. They behead,set babies afire while alive. The women they gang rape,beat,murder,when hostages. The 2000 rockets that were shot into civilian communities in Israel October 23 decimated homes,businesses, and countless people.

And you think Israel deserved it.

You fudged your application here. Just as those like you did. Make no mistake. We know who you are. And what you are not.

And God knows too . And you all shall answer for every word. William won't be able to rewrite that. In his end,he shall regret for eternity he wrote anything blaspheming God at all. And so shall Billy's followers.

There's nothing so pathetic as someone who claims to be a Jew only to hate them word for word. Young? Yes, very very much so.

 

[cv5]

Let's be clear.

You are not a scholar.

You post against the actual Scriptures in the Bible using long known Antisemitic hoaxes,Christian Identity rhetoric, and reworked excerpts from The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. That's not scholarship. That's Ad Hominem on a constant basis.

You stand with Hamas. They behead,set babies afire while alive. The women they gang rape,beat,murder,when hostages. The 2000 rockets that were shot into civilian communities in Israel October 23 decimated homes,businesses, and countless people.

And you think Israel deserved it.

You fudged your application here. Just as those like you did. Make no mistake. We know who you are. And what you are not.

And God knows too . And you all shall answer for every word. William won't be able to rewrite that. In his end,he shall regret for eternity he wrote anything blaspheming God at all. And so shall Billy's followers.

There's nothing so pathetic as someone who claims to be a Jew only to hate them word for word. Young? Yes, very very much so.

"You are not a scholar."

Correct. What then is this person? I think you are getting warm.

 

[Needevidence]

"You are not a scholar."

Correct. What then is this person? I think you are getting warm.

So are you and Meo.... scholars? If so, why then not teach us

respond to post #2478 & #2402 – with evidence to back up, or do you ignore when you have no answer and divert with nonsense, so the post will be inevitable lost / forgotten so you can carry on with your ranting without biblical evidence?

Jewish position say there is no such thing / word / time in the Torah 'forever' only God is forever - why don’t you want to accept that after all they know the Hebrew language and the chosen people who cannot do or say anything wrong?

 

[MeowFlower]

The issue that you support being that Ashkenazi "fake Jews" all need to be exterminated?
And that all and any Jewish identity must be scrubbed from society?
And the other issue you support being that the sovereign state of Israel must be terminated?

No I don't agree with any of that. On the contrary I believe that there must be a State of Israel and that all men must be saved, including Ashkenazi Jews if in fact they exist at all.

Advancing the extermination of a people should be enough to free us of him here.
He's advocating genocide of the Jews.

On a Christian forum.