The Mark of the Beast

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Publican

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Once you realize who Israel really is. Everything else falls into place.
If you got sucked into the dispensational voodoo, you'll never figure it out.

When the Jews asked John if He was the Christ, he denied it. Are you that prophet then? Again he denied it. But Christ said, if you can receive it then Elias has already come. My point is. Christ just gave us an example of how prophecies are fulfilled and how literal interpretations can be somewhat problematic.

So let's get back to the mark. Right hand in Greek scripture, if I am not mistaken, can include the entire arm up to the shoulder. Anything coming to mind? Remember those nasal swabs that many of you allowed them to shove up into your brain (forehead) so you could work and shop? Still no light bulbs going off?

Does Satan not do his best work through deception?
 

HeIsHere

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Like Meshach, Shadrach and Awaywego?
Is that what saved them their pain and suffering, is this Christianity or some other religion we are talking about.

"Those who endure to the end will be saved" Matthew 24: 13-14 is not a speaking about spiritual salvation but Jesus is predicting the siege of Jerusalem by the Romans and those who endure will be physically saved.
This is not a difficult or obscure passage.
 

Publican

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Is that what saved them their pain and suffering, is this Christianity or some other religion we are talking about.

"Those who endure to the end will be saved" Matthew 24: 13-14 is not a speaking about spiritual salvation but Jesus is predicting the siege of Jerusalem by the Romans and those who endure will be physically saved.
This is not a difficult or obscure passage.
Well there you, you've got it all figured out.
 
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Interesting. Anyone check this out with Eve? She may have a different take.
nice try! but no. Eve eating the fruit was an act of disobedience not a deliberate choice, she didnt pledge allegiance to the beast or turn away from God and embrace that which opposes Him... the mark 'If anyone worships the beast and its image.. scripture tells us that some choose to identify as followers of the beast..

Christians who actively seek God's wisdom, love the truth and remain faithful to God will recognize and reject the mark of the beast. Scriptures say people choose to worship the beast, those who stay faithful to God will see the dangers of the choice and realize the Suffering they will have to endure if they deny this mark. i could give way more details but go read the scriptures its all there.

Just remember to always seek the lords wisdom and guidance for understanding.
 

Publican

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nice try! but no. Eve eating the fruit was an act of disobedience not a deliberate choice, she didnt pledge allegiance to the beast or turn away from God and embrace that which opposes Him... the mark 'If anyone worships the beast and its image.. scripture tells us that some choose to identify as followers of the beast..

Christians who actively seek God's wisdom, love the truth and remain faithful to God will recognize and reject the mark of the beast. Scriptures say people choose to worship the beast, those who stay faithful to God will see the dangers of the choice and realize the Suffering they will have to endure if they deny this mark. i could give way more details but go read the scriptures its all there.

Just remember to always seek the lords wisdom and guidance for understanding.
Eve was beguiled into direct disobedience. Point being, its possible to be deceived, even if you are walking with God. I doubt that any of us have ever walked closer with God than Eve did.
 

Cameron143

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Eve was beguiled into direct disobedience. Point being, its possible to be deceived, even if you are walking with God. I doubt that any of us have ever walked closer with God than Eve did.
In Christ anyone can.
 
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Eve was beguiled into direct disobedience. Point being, its possible to be deceived, even if you are walking with God. I doubt that any of us have ever walY I yeah that's true what you're saying and I know what you're saying
Eve was beguiled into direct disobedience. Point being, its possible to be deceived, even if you are walking with God. I doubt that any of us have ever walked closer with God than Eve did.
You're not wrong but if you keep your eyes open you won't be deceived. For instance,

Matthew 7:15-20 (ESV) “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. (YOU WILL RECOGNIZE THEM BY THEIR FRUITS)..

I suggest you read this scripture it's a bit long so I won't put it up..
Psalm 91:1-16 and this

John 2:27 (ESV)
“But the anointing that you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that anyone should teach you. But as his anointing teaches you

I will revise my statement adding for those that stay faithful and watchful if it lets me edit
 
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Spirit will be aware mark of the Beast comes you won't be able to tricked into this without knowing what it is first
those that stay faithful and watchful and hold fast to the Lord.. your Spirit will be aware of the mark of the Beast when it comes you won't be able to tricked into accepting this without knowing what it is first!!!
 

Publican

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those that stay faithful and watchful and hold fast to the Lord.. your Spirit will be aware of the mark of the Beast when it comes you won't be able to tricked into accepting this without knowing what it is first!!!
Yes, those who have the Spirit will not be deceived, not even possible.
But there are many who claim a Spirit they do not possess. This is also quite clear from scripture.
 

Pilgrimshope

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Does anyone see the connection between Dan 7 and Rev 13.

The little horn and beast
Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

42 months = 3 and half years

Time, times and dividing of time.
1, 2, and half = 3 and half.

Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
Amen it’s an apacolypse

“And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another. The first was like a lion, ….And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, ….. After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.

After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, ……and it had ten horns.”
‭‭Daniel‬ ‭7:3-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

if you add up what Daniel saw he saw four beasts rise from the sea with seven heads and ten horns.

John comes along about 700 years later and sees a beast rise from the sea with seven heads and ten horns which looks like a lion a leopard and a bear. John is seeing the same image as Daniel saw seven hundred years prior only when John sees the seven headed beast five of the heads of the beast have already ruled and fallen one the sixth head is ruling in johns day and only one head was yet to rise up soon in johns time.

a johns vision is near the end wheras daniels eas in the beginning when it started Babylon eas the first head , media Persia the second , Greece the third with four heads and this all ended up in the Roman Empire which was ruling in johns day

“And there are seven kings: five are fallen, (in johns past )


and one is, ( johns present day the sixth head )


and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.”( the seventh head was about to rise up )
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭17:10‬ ‭

johns vision is opening up more understanding and advancement to ot prophecy like Daniel 7
 
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Yes, those who have the Spirit will not be deceived, not even possible.
But there are many who claim a Spirit they do not possess. This is also quite clear from scripture.
and also eve wasn't Una-where that the fruit was forbidden she was deserved though but was a conscience decision she made
 

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