What is the point in being a prophet?

[Genez]

Die in the nuclear destruction of this country that is coming then. Don't say God didn't send someone to warn you. What else can I say?

Thanks for warning me. I will remember what you said, and hold my breath when the mushroom goes up?

When I was in Bible college the president of the school told us that the Lord gave him dreams of major cities getting hit with atomic bombs.

The reason we will eventually be hit is because too many Christians went into "magic" Christianity, and avoided buckling down to endure what is needed to be transformed by learning sound doctrine.

You just stand there and tell us... "Watch me pull a prophecy out of my hat!"

Great!

How can that impart knowledge of the full council of God's Word? Knowledge that can save those who mature from the coming catastrophe? He is the Word! To obey Christ is to learn the Word in great detail and depth! Not simply telling people to obey what they can not naturally know.

What you present would be like back in the days of scurvy's blight, telling Brits to prevent scurvy stay off of ships.

No understanding in how to overcome is to be gained...

In Christ .....

 

[sawdust]

If you survive, remember me after it happens then. Tell others, "God's prophet told us this would all happen (my name won't matter then). I didn't believe him at the time, but he said this would happen. As sure as he was right, so I'm sure that our Lord Jesus Christ lives."

It will give you the encouragement you need to win other souls for Jesus during that dark time when most will lose hope for humanity.

You should read the book of Revelation. It's all in there.

Lose hope? You don't know me or the Lord.

1 Corinthians 13:13
And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

 

[Genez]

If you survive, remember me after it happens then. Tell others, "God's prophet told us this would all happen (my name won't matter then). I didn't believe him at the time, but he said this would happen. As sure as he was right, so I'm sure that our Lord Jesus Christ lives."

It will give you the encouragement you need to win other souls for Jesus during that dark time when most will lose hope for humanity.

It's going to happen.

God has decreed such devastations as a means to break down the resistance of some whom He always knew would believe in Him.

 

[jonchristian]

Lose hope? You don't know me or the Lord.

I didn't say you would lose hope, and yes, I do know the Lord.

You do understand what lying is? Saying, "you don't know the Lord" when I do, in fact, know the Lord is considered libel/slander and it's a form of lying.

 

[Genez]

Die in the nuclear destruction of this country that is coming then. Don't say God didn't send someone to warn you. What else can I say?

I had dreams where people wanted to murder me...People I knew. In the dream they succeeded.

The dreams forced me to change my thinking as to avoid what I saw myself doing that led up to what I was shown.
The circumstances came to pass, and passed me by, because I knew what I needed to avoid.

I did not have the dream as to know what would happen.
But, what would happen if one does not change his course.

The atomic bombs, if they come in our lifetime? Might indicate several things.

The call for national repentance and a serious turning to learning God's Word for the first time in their lives.

A sign that the Rapture is just about to take place...

Or?

The dream showed a glimpse into the future Great Tribulation on earth.

In the mean time... there have always been what citizens saw as kooks carrying signs telling them the end is near.
What you are doing is old hat. For the return of Christ was always been, to be at any moment.

 

[sawdust]

I didn't say you would lose hope, and yes, I do know the Lord. What a weird thing to say.

Really? Then why do you think I need to be encouraged?

Not weird, you have not shown anything to overtly suggest you know the Lord with any depth of understanding. You claim to be a prophet, give vague predictions of doom and gloom and claim you're unimportant while constantly defending yourself and your claims.

I rather have five words of solid teaching than your vague threats. That would truly fulfill the role of a Christian prophet

 

[jonchristian]

In the mean time... there have always been what citizens saw as kooks carrying signs telling them the end is near.
What you are doing is old hat. For the return of Christ was always been, to be at any moment.

Carry a sign telling people the end is near = kook

Carry a sign preaching the Gospel = old hat

Return of Christ = any moment (and corresponds with the end being near)

So, basically, you're saying anyone who preaches the Gospel and return of Christ, which you confirm could be any moment, is old hat and a kook?

How can I possibly take you seriously?

 

[jonchristian]

Really? Then why do you think I need to be encouraged?

Our Lord Jesus Christ Himself felt the need to describe, in detail, the hardships that would come during the Great Tribulation. He even went so far as to say, "brother would betray brother unto death" and He asked, "Will I even find faith on Earth when I return?" It's going to be the worst time to live in the history of mankind. If Jesus thought you would need to be encouraged (as evidenced by His own words), why do you think it's unscriptural for me to assume you will need encouraged?

 

[jonchristian]

I rather have five words of solid teaching than your vague threats. That would truly fulfill the role of a Christian prophet

If you want to hear me preach at length, then here you go. Most people don't have long enough attention spans to listen to someone preach these days. That's why I carry a sign when I speak to the multitudes. It's easy to preach at a church when you have hundreds of people who came to listen to you, it's more difficult when you're speaking to tens of thousands of people who don't want to listen to you lol.

 

[Genez]

I didn't say you would lose hope, and yes, I do know the Lord.

You do understand what lying is? Saying, "you don't know the Lord" when I do, in fact, know the Lord is considered libel/slander and it's a form of lying.

I did not even know I knew the Lord while I had gotten saved.

I was Jewish. I read a tract and accepted the prayer.

For ten years I could not figure out what had taken place and changed me in my soul.

While in the army, on a day off, I wandered into a recreation center.
Some were playing pool and drinking their beers.

I walked by them and into another room.
In that room were books on a shelf.
I pulled out a book of quotations by famous people.
I was very interested at that time of hearing what men of great thinking had to say about life.

I was reading quotes by one famous person after another.
To my surprise, there was a dedicated section of quotes by Jesus.
As thinking I was still a Jew, I read on.

Then it happened.
One quote of Jesus hit me like comforting lightning flowing from my head to toe.

Right after, as I stood there. I still remember what I said to myself.

"All those famous men I just read had wisdom.
But, this one! He knows me!"

I had gotten saved unawares from reading a tract probably about a year before entering the army.
I still considered myself a Jew!

No person preached to me to get me saved.
At that time, I disliked the preachers I was exposed to.
They were manufactured actors to me. Dead and preaching to the choir.

I got saved as I was walking between classes in college, after reading a tract that was handed to me by a young man
who was in the process of setting up his display in the main corridor.
I took a tract and walked away. He never said a word to me.

No kook who looked like a character who had just come out of a time machine preached to me.
If he had? I would have thought that Christianity could not be taken seriously.

Then.... It was years later that I finally learned that there is neither Jew nor gentile in Christ Jesus.

That understanding came when I finally found a place where the Bible was being taught objectively.
Learning teaching that was not designed to appeal to some denominational bias, that so many suffered from at that time.

Getting saved is easy.
You do not even have to know you got saved to be saved.
Just simply finding yourself loving and wanting to believe in Jesus died for our sins.

So be it!

 

[jonchristian]

I had gotten saved unawares from reading a tract probably about a year before entering the army.
I still considered myself a Jew!

I got saved as I was walking between classes in college, after reading a tract that was handed to me by a young man
who was in the process of setting up his display in the main corridor.
I took a tract and walked away. He never said a word to me.

No kook who looked like a character who had just come out of a time machine preached to me.
If he had? I would have thought that Christianity could not be taken seriously.

Awesome testimony of God's power at work in your life.

I've handed out a lot of Gospel tracts over the years - wearing normal clothes. People thought I was a kook then. It's all about your perspective, Brother. It's unfortunate that you and others like you have become so closeminded you can't see how God works in so many different ways. Think about all the people who will say, "I saw a guy who looked like he just came out of a time machine and warned me to repent and obey Jesus. That's when I knew it was time to get right with the Lord." It might not have been what you needed, but it was what they needed. Our Lord Jesus Christ did not send me out for no reason. I don't believe that for a second.

1 Cor 1:18 "For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God."

 

[Blade]

Not all will be that way....
Because too many alleged prophets just come across as not worth much to pay attention to.

For those who know how to be a con-salesman to the simple minded?

For them. Prophet = profit.

Since you put this out there let me ask you what good does he do for Christ? I'm 63 at 15 I knew about him. So what good does he do for Christ? I like that saying because a man of God praying asked the lord about.... a preacher asking why He has not judge this man with fire and brim stone. To that the lord said "oh but do you know all the good he does for me"? I found those that speak negitively know nothing at all.

So tiny list of what I know they have given to one mans ministry who is gone home now but wow they saw millions and milions come to Christ.. I saw million in one day. So this preacher your talking about gave this other man of God that is not in anyway Word of Fiath over 60million... to back up Copeland has no say where the money goes. There is board of how many? Yeah anyway they have the say not him. Them odd how some believers go afterr just him not his wfie or kids or all those other women and men and elderly and young and old that talk like believe in what Copepand preaches which he tries to back up with Gods word. But its just odd how they never go after his wife or kids who are just like him.

Anyway he has no say where that money does oops. I do love sharing this next part. We had fire huge fire here in Colordo the whole nation knew about. It was scary we all had to leave our homes. After told we could go back right away we get this phone call and the only one. It was Copeland Min.. what do you need? What ever it us you ask we will get it to you. No matter what it is you ask we will get it to you". How did they get our number? NO we were not giving to them. No one else no one called us nor anyone around us that we know of.

So that got to me. I always heard the BAD things this man did and how demon possed he was yet.. this is what believer are told to do..Hes doing somethiung NO ONE talks about. So me being no one went searching and man you have to search they do not make this known. Well if yoru doing something for Christ are you going to say LOOK AT ME. So I found they not just him but many others with them come togethe take truck loads of goods where stroms hit floods, earth quakes tornados.. on and on. Theres more.. I have not touched what they GIVE away over seas. It really got to me how .. how can some of these people that say the love believe in jesus Christ see the sin yet didn't see all the good they do for Christ. I watched so many Exposed videos....how did they miss all this? How did they miss the times on stage him saying we missed it we repented.. or the other one that said "if I get it wrong tell me I will repent and get it right"

What got me is.. these are videos on YOUTUBE. It shows some say they beleive but they do not know Him .. Him being Yeshua/Jesus Christ. I found all those that speak agasint this man or others oddly never once talk about how they fall miss it get wrong. Never talk about mom dad or spouse or kids.. yeah just someone else they never met never talked to. Someone they can email mail go to yet oddly never do. Me being no one did it to a few that the world knows not to boast. See if its of GOD HE willk open all the doors. My thinking is . how would I want to be treated? Please talk to me.. pray with me.. lets come together..

So IF we are still here when He come.. we can see and understand how He will say to some "I never new you" If you have done it unto them my brethrn you have done it unto me". Haha.. man I have not even touched this yet. I don't know I get "best to say nothing". Well He already talks to you and me..if we wont liisten to HIm.. then anything I say goes no where.

So me? Oh i do this for John MacAuthor, Billy Graham.. what GOOD do they do? You just say.. man get in line.. I have Satan doing this 24/7 Well ever notice you don't read hear in any of those videos "I bring all this up so we can pray FOR them we love them like we love Chris tlike Christ loves us so we togerther bind the enemy and all his lires to lose them and set them free. NO WAY are we going to the enemy take our flamily". Well if this was mone and dad or you kids or spuse you would never make a video about them. NO you wiould be almost bagging for eveyrone to be praying.

I live and try to treat all like I want to be treated. I see and hear what you do and have a choice.. speak words of live. talk to them face to face pray for them or gossip and talk about things others have said or some 1-60 min video or book. He loves no matter how many times I fall miss it.. never tells anyone my faults ...its as if love doesn't see them.

Like a young man told us gay friend that got kided out of his home. Try Jesus? The young gay kid says been there done that. The friend says.. no if you need someone to laugh with I am here. If you need someone to cry with I am here. If you need someone to get mad at to hate I am here. If you fall I will not judge you or condemn you. That once young gay man has kids and no desire for the same sex gone.

Odd huh its as if once your become a believer all that LOVE is tossed out. Why would anyone want your Jesus look how we treat them when they do not live talk like we do. Duh we have the real JESUS huh. What you do you made the choice. Evey word we speak we will answer to a GOD for. Once you see people through His eyes.. you never see them the same. He loves them.. He cries ask Him.. cries because not sinner not saint.. no one knows how much He loves them. HE is their GOD He is their creator.. love or not.. see the sin or not.. but you made the choice so own it and pay the price. OH its a sure why to get GOD to look right at you and your life. If I offended sorry. NO I do not write good so forgive me. For some odd reaosn Firefox Spell check not working.. just see the good frist.. give GOD glory.. and if you see fautls.. man you have GODS EAR and you do this? I see hear what you do.. but I know HIM and I know that I know that I know HE knows me

 

[Genez]

Carry a sign telling people the end is near = kook

Carry a sign preaching the Gospel = old hat

Return of Christ = any moment (and corresponds with the end being near)

So, basically, you're saying anyone who preaches the Gospel and return of Christ, which you confirm could be any moment, is old hat and a kook?

While looking like kook? Yes.
When you were in the theater district it could have been seen as a promotion for Jesus Christ Super Star.

Prophets looked like the rest of the church.
It was their gift to be able to teach in a manner that hit to the core of a person that granted them the recognition.

Awesome testimony of God's power at work in your life.

I've handed out a lot of Gospel tracts over the years - wearing normal clothes. People thought I was a kook then. It's all about your perspective, Brother. It's unfortunate that you and others like you have become so closeminded you can't see how God works in so many different ways. Think about all the people who will say, "I saw a guy who looked like he just came out of a time machine and warned me to repent and obey Jesus. That's when I knew it was time to get right with the Lord." It might not have been what you needed, but it was what they needed. Our Lord Jesus Christ did not send me out for no reason. I don't believe that for a second.

1 Cor 1:18 "For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God."

Go for it....

I have seen other goofy ways to present the Gospel.
Someone reading a tract might get saved.

The "show" can be used as an attention getter, as long as you hand them something they can walk away with and privately decide for themselves with.

 

[Genez]

Since you put this out there let me ask you what good does he do for Christ? I'm 63 at 15 I knew about him. So what good does he do for Christ? I like that saying because a man of God praying asked the lord about.... a preacher asking why He has not judge this man with fire and brim stone. To that the lord said "oh but do you know all the good he does for me"? I found those that speak negitively know nothing at all.

So tiny list of what I know they have given to one mans ministry who is gone home now but wow they saw millions and milions come to Christ.. I saw million in one day. So this preacher your talking about gave this other man of God that is not in anyway Word of Fiath over 60million... to back up Copeland has no say where the money goes. There is board of how many? Yeah anyway they have the say not him. Them odd how some believers go afterr just him not his wfie or kids or all those other women and men and elderly and young and old that talk like believe in what Copepand preaches which he tries to back up with Gods word. But its just odd how they never go after his wife or kids who are just like him.

Anyway he has no say where that money does oops. I do love sharing this next part. We had fire huge fire here in Colordo the whole nation knew about. It was scary we all had to leave our homes. After told we could go back right away we get this phone call and the only one. It was Copeland Min.. what do you need? What ever it us you ask we will get it to you. No matter what it is you ask we will get it to you". How did they get our number? NO we were not giving to them. No one else no one called us nor anyone around us that we know of.

So that got to me. I always heard the BAD things this man did and how demon possed he was yet.. this is what believer are told to do..Hes doing somethiung NO ONE talks about. So me being no one went searching and man you have to search they do not make this known. Well if yoru doing something for Christ are you going to say LOOK AT ME. So I found they not just him but many others with them come togethe take truck loads of goods where stroms hit floods, earth quakes tornados.. on and on. Theres more.. I have not touched what they GIVE away over seas. It really got to me how .. how can some of these people that say the love believe in jesus Christ see the sin yet didn't see all the good they do for Christ. I watched so many Exposed videos....how did they miss all this? How did they miss the times on stage him saying we missed it we repented.. or the other one that said "if I get it wrong tell me I will repent and get it right"

What got me is.. these are videos on YOUTUBE. It shows some say they beleive but they do not know Him .. Him being Yeshua/Jesus Christ. I found all those that speak agasint this man or others oddly never once talk about how they fall miss it get wrong. Never talk about mom dad or spouse or kids.. yeah just someone else they never met never talked to. Someone they can email mail go to yet oddly never do. Me being no one did it to a few that the world knows not to boast. See if its of GOD HE willk open all the doors. My thinking is . how would I want to be treated? Please talk to me.. pray with me.. lets come together..

So IF we are still here when He come.. we can see and understand how He will say to some "I never new you" If you have done it unto them my brethrn you have done it unto me". Haha.. man I have not even touched this yet. I don't know I get "best to say nothing". Well He already talks to you and me..if we wont liisten to HIm.. then anything I say goes no where.

So me? Oh i do this for John MacAuthor, Billy Graham.. what GOOD do they do? You just say.. man get in line.. I have Satan doing this 24/7 Well ever notice you don't read hear in any of those videos "I bring all this up so we can pray FOR them we love them like we love Chris tlike Christ loves us so we togerther bind the enemy and all his lires to lose them and set them free. NO WAY are we going to the enemy take our flamily". Well if this was mone and dad or you kids or spuse you would never make a video about them. NO you wiould be almost bagging for eveyrone to be praying.

I live and try to treat all like I want to be treated. I see and hear what you do and have a choice.. speak words of live. talk to them face to face pray for them or gossip and talk about things others have said or some 1-60 min video or book. He loves no matter how many times I fall miss it.. never tells anyone my faults ...its as if love doesn't see them.

Like a young man told us gay friend that got kided out of his home. Try Jesus? The young gay kid says been there done that. The friend says.. no if you need someone to laugh with I am here. If you need someone to cry with I am here. If you need someone to get mad at to hate I am here. If you fall I will not judge you or condemn you. That once young gay man has kids and no desire for the same sex gone.

Odd huh its as if once your become a believer all that LOVE is tossed out. Why would anyone want your Jesus look how we treat them when they do not live talk like we do. Duh we have the real JESUS huh. What you do you made the choice. Evey word we speak we will answer to a GOD for. Once you see people through His eyes.. you never see them the same. He loves them.. He cries ask Him.. cries because not sinner not saint.. no one knows how much He loves them. HE is their GOD He is their creator.. love or not.. see the sin or not.. but you made the choice so own it and pay the price. OH its a sure why to get GOD to look right at you and your life. If I offended sorry. NO I do not write good so forgive me. For some odd reaosn Firefox Spell check not working.. just see the good frist.. give GOD glory.. and if you see fautls.. man you have GODS EAR and you do this? I see hear what you do.. but I know HIM and I know that I know that I know HE knows me

By invite I attended a Kenneth Copeland meeting in NYC.

He preached, and most strongly asked for money.
Promising us (using Scripture in a distorted way) that the more you gave, the more God will bless you.

.... they are conceited and understand nothing. They have an unhealthy interest ​

in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious ​

talk, evil suspicions and constant friction between people of corrupt mind, who ​

have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to ​

financial gain." 1 Timothy 6:4-5​

That is why the video targeted his financial extravagance.

people of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth ​

and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain." ​

Need I say more?

 

[sawdust]

I didn't say you would lose hope, and yes, I do know the Lord.

You do understand what lying is? Saying, "you don't know the Lord" when I do, in fact, know the Lord is considered libel/slander and it's a form of lying.

And calling yourself something you're not is also a form of lying.

Based on what I have seen so far, you are more likely an evangelist. The foundation has been laid, no more foundations needed. Rely on scripture, not your experiences.

Ephesians 2:20
having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone,

 

[jonchristian]

Ephesians 2:20
having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone,

I don't understand why you keep repeating this verse without saying the next verses: 21 In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. 22 And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.

I live in the Midwest. We have to go 36 inches below the frostline to lay foundations. Then we build up from there. Nowhere in all of the building codes does it say you can't use stone or cement (the same thing the foundation is built from) to build up the walls of the home or structure. Why can't the rest of the holy temple also be built up using apostles and prophets? I don't want to be brash, but your logic fails.

 

[jonchristian]

And calling yourself something you're not is also a form of lying.

Based on what I have seen so far, you are more likely an evangelist. The foundation has been laid, no more foundations needed. Rely on scripture, not your experiences.

I never called myself something I'm not.

I am an evangelist. Does that mean I can't be other things? I'm a former social worker and mental health practitioner, but I'm also HVAC certified. So, I go help poor people get their furnaces running for free and use it as an opportunity to share Jesus with them. Same time, I'm on here and other social media and in the streets sharing the prophetic messages the Lord gave me. Same time, I'm ministering to people and encouraging them in the faith wherever I can. I pray for and with people as often as I can. I read my Bible daily (mostly lol). As you can see from the videos I posted, I preach sometimes as well. I don't see why I have to be only one single thing in the Kingdom of God and body of Christ when I can do many things.

I would not lie to you if I could prevent it. Do you not think I don't struggle with my calling with the gift of prophecy? Prophets are not infallible and they're not omnipotent. Joseph was a prophet whom the Lord spoke to in dreams and yet was kidnapped and ended up in prison. Why didn't he see that coming and avoid it if he was so smart, right? People who speak endlessly thinking they know what it means or what it is like to be a prophet, really don't understand it. Go back and read their lives. Do you realize God made a liar out of Jonah? Read what Jonah's message was and then read what God did. The effect this had on Jonah's life caused him to have a mental breakdown (I say that in my professional opinion from reading the text.) King David was a prophet. Did he realize the Psalms the Lord put into His heart were a prophetic message foretelling the coming of Messiah? No, he didn't. It was only looking back that we understand it. I could go on and on because it is like this with every prophet. When the Lord shows me something and speaks to me in a dream - as SCRIPTURE prophesied would happen - I don't have control over it. Do you understand that? I don't get to decide what He is showing me or why. That is not in my power. I can only share.

Have you ever read Daniel's visions? To this day, thousands of years later, people are still trying to interpret them. What about The Revelation? Thousands of years of people interpreting them, yet no Christian questions their divinity or truth.

Why is it so hard to accept that God speaks to me in dreams? I asked the Holy Spirit earlier, "God why does everyone hate me for this? Do they hate me because it's me, or do they hate me because of the message?" The Holy Spirit answered, "They hate the message. They are not prepared to lose everything and fear it. They don't want to accept the truth of the message. But do not be afraid. I will lift you up in due time."

I'm not in this for me. I'm in this for you and others. It is my greatest desire and hope that you could understand, I do not desire to rule over anyone or to be above anyone, my only desire is to exalt our Lord Jesus Christ and serve Him. If He calls me to do anything, I will do it. I will rise to the occasion because I know He will be with me in all that I do: "Behold, I am with you always, even until the end of the age."

 

[Genez]

I never called myself something I'm not.

I am an evangelist. Does that mean I can't be other things? I'm a former social worker and mental health practitioner, but I'm also HVAC certified. So, I go help poor people get their furnaces running for free and use it as an opportunity to share Jesus with them. Same time, I'm on here and other social media and in the streets sharing the prophetic messages the Lord gave me. Same time, I'm ministering to people and encouraging them in the faith wherever I can. I pray for and with people as often as I can. I read my Bible daily (mostly lol). As you can see from the videos I posted, I preach sometimes as well. I don't see why I have to be only one single thing in the Kingdom of God and body of Christ when I can do many things.

I would not lie to you if I could prevent it. Do you not think I don't struggle with my calling with the gift of prophecy? Prophets are not infallible and they're not omnipotent. Joseph was a prophet whom the Lord spoke to in dreams and yet was kidnapped and ended up in prison. Why didn't he see that coming and avoid it if he was so smart, right? People who speak endlessly thinking they know what it means or what it is like to be a prophet, really don't understand it. Go back and read their lives. Do you realize God made a liar out of Jonah? Read what Jonah's message was and then read what God did. The effect this had on Jonah's life caused him to have a mental breakdown (I say that in my professional opinion from reading the text.) King David was a prophet. Did he realize the Psalms the Lord put into His heart were a prophetic message foretelling the coming of Messiah? No, he didn't. It was only looking back that we understand it. I could go on and on because it is like this with every prophet. When the Lord shows me something and speaks to me in a dream - as SCRIPTURE prophesied would happen - I don't have control over it. Do you understand that? I don't get to decide what He is showing me or why. That is not in my power. I can only share.

Have you ever read Daniel's visions? To this day, thousands of years later, people are still trying to interpret them. What about The Revelation? Thousands of years of people interpreting them, yet no Christian questions their divinity or truth.

Why is it so hard to accept that God speaks to me in dreams? I asked the Holy Spirit earlier, "God why does everyone hate me for this? Do they hate me because it's me, or do they hate me because of the message?" The Holy Spirit answered, "They hate the message. They are not prepared to lose everything and fear it. They don't want to accept the truth of the message. But do not be afraid. I will lift you up in due time."

I'm not in this for me. I'm in this for you and others. It is my greatest desire and hope that you could understand, I do not desire to rule over anyone or to be above anyone, my only desire is to exalt our Lord Jesus Christ and serve Him. If He calls me to do anything, I will do it. I will rise to the occasion because I know He will be with me in all that I do: "Behold, I am with you always, even until the end of the age."

If you want to call yourself a prophet. But, you actually have a different gift, and its fully functional? Fine.

Billy Graham started off pastoring a church.

 

[sawdust]

I don't understand why you keep repeating this verse without saying the next verses: 21 In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. 22 And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.

I live in the Midwest. We have to go 36 inches below the frostline to lay foundations. Then we build up from there. Nowhere in all of the building codes does it say you can't use stone or cement (the same thing the foundation is built from) to build up the walls of the home or structure. Why can't the rest of the holy temple also be built up using apostles and prophets? I don't want to be brash, but your logic fails.

And how does the next part negate the purpose of a foundation which is to build upon and is built once at the bottom of the building?
If anything, it reinforces what I'm saying. You wouldn't have Christ crucified over and over, but you want to continue laying foundations all the way up the building.

My logic fails?? Strewth! You can't do what you say because the foundation and the walls serve two different purposes. Of course the whole building is made of the same material in that it is all built from the truth of God by means of His Spirit.

The building analogy is a very simple one. Please learn to understand what it means and don't twist into something unworkable.

I never called myself something I'm not.

I am an evangelist.

God has called me to be a prophet

That's from your OP. You are clearly saying you are a prophet. God calls some to be apostles, prophets, evangelists and pastor/teachers. He doesn't call people to be in all or some of those offices. The apostles certainly evangelized and made prophetic utterances but they were not called to be prophets or evangelists. In the same manner, an evangelist who has prophetic dreams is still an evangelist and is not a prophet.

The apostles and the prophets gave us the revelation needed for the continual growth of the Church and the end of history and it is now all in writing. That is our foundation, the truth contained in the scriptures. All dreams/visions/experiences are to be tested against what is written because what is written is our foundation for knowing how to live the life we have been given.

I have no problem with you receiving dreams from God. I have had numerous dreams from God. Some prophetic, some of warning some of healing. It does not make one a prophet. The offices of apostles and prophets ended with completion of scripture for then we had all we needed to know.

The irony is that many an error has been fallen into and led others astray because someone had some dream, some vision, some supernatural experience from God but refused to test it against scripture to fully understand it's significance. Instead, they run off on the first impression they get and end up down a rabbit hole.

So be it. I've said all I'm going to say on the matter.

Go preach the Gospel because that is what you are called to do.

grace and peace.

 

[Genez]

1 Peter 2:4-5


As you come to him, the living Stone—rejected by men but chosen by God and precious
to him— you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy
priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.

Amen!