In your opinion do you believe world is about 6000 years old

[JohnDB]

As far as the Jews not being completely correct...
I can go along with that.
Rabbi Michael Snyder (expert on Levitical calendar) wrote a research paper on the Jewish Calendar and shows how there are obvious errors within it. (Not several thousand years) but enough to where the day we claim as Sunday is actually Saturday and that there's a couple of years misplaced somewhere. (They subtract years for various reasons)

All total saying that the Levitical Jewish calendar needs an overhaul to be more accurate.

 

[Webers.Home]

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FAQ: Young-Earth theorists calculate planet Earth is no more than +/- 6,000
years old. They get that number by working with the Bible's genealogies
beginning with Adam and his son Seth, and from taking into account
portions of world history. Why do Old-Earth theorists dispute their results?

REPLY: We cannot know for a rock-solid, bullet-proof, verifiable certainty
that the days of creation were no more than twenty-four hours apiece. In
other words: it's very possible that those 6,000 years are merely a drop of
pigment in a bucket of paint.
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[JohnDB]

Israel says the year5785 began in October 2024. Add 215 years to 5785 and we have 6000 years from creation.

JB--Not I who say 215 years, they dont believe their own writings

But the earth wasn't created then....
It wasn't created with Egypt fully in existence.

Just saying that there was a time period before the flood that consisted of several thousands of years before we got to the flood. Then at least several hundreds of years post flood before the Jews went into Egypt.

6,000 years is insufficient time for all of this since the Levitical calendar is at 5780.
The truth is....we don't really know and scriptures aren't really telling us.

What is important is to live such a Godly life by trying to be like Jesus that we are accused of being a Messiah aka Christian.

 

[Omegatime]

If you want to dig deeper I can share a few things.

There were 4 generations in Egypt, 2 went in at same time so you must subtract one generation for time keeping purpose. Subtract 40 years for the 4th generation being in the wilderness. Jacob lived 147 years and Levi lived 137 years.

The Septuagint and Syrian text say 430 years in Cannan and Egypt whlie the Masorectic says only Egypt.

I am an author and researcher of biblical time for the last 40 years and i am not saying I am totally correct but close.

I say 115 in Cannan and 315 years in Egypt.

I have Abraham born year from creation 1948 and died year 2123 at 175 years old.

Covenants between God and man begin after the death of the promised party just as Jesus gave us the New Covenant after his death.

From Galations 3

15 To give a human example, brethren: no one annuls even a man’s will,[b] or adds to it, once it has been ratified. 16 Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many; but, referring to one, “And to your offspring,” which is Christ. 17 This is what I mean: the law, which came four hundred and thirty years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void. 18 For if the inheritance is by the law, it is no longer by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise.

From the death of Abraham adding 430 years makes the Exodus date 2553

Jacob stands before Pharoh at 130 years of age. 2553 minus 315 years is year 2238

Jacob born in year 2108, add 130 years equals 2238--add 315 for the Exodus equals again year 2553

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

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Now, it's right about here that young-earth theorists have a problem
because it's obvious from physical evidence that much of the Earth's higher
elevations were inundated for a very long time before they were pushed up
to where they are now.

Take for example Mount Everest. Today its tippy top is something like
29,029 feet above sea level. The discovery of fossilized sea lilies near its
summit proves that the Himalayan land mass has not always been
mountainous; but at one time was the floor of an ancient sea bed. This is
confirmed by the "yellow band" below Everest's summit consisting of
limestone: a type of rock made from calcite sediments containing the
skeletal remains of countless trillions of organisms who lived, not on dry
land, rather, underwater in an ocean.
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Did you see the movie that Wansvic posted above? The movie addresses it and doesn't conflict with the young earth theory.


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[Omegatime]

But the bigger question is why would the jews contaminate the scriptures??

Took decades before the lord disclosed it to me.

During creation the Lord said it was good and very good meaning it was exactly the way he designed it. Another way of saying this is it was a time of no sin when he said it. So what represent no sin for seven days. Only the Feast of Unleavened Bread. But Adam who was made on the sixth day represents the original Passover.

When Adam and Eve covered themselves with fig leaves it just wasn't good enough. It took a blood sacrifice and why the Lord made clothing from animals.

Notice in Genesis 5 the dates are given for their births and death. But something is missing? No months or days!

Reason being the generational line from Adam to Christ were born and died same day----Pasover

The jews found out when Christ was born----Passover

Also why the Lord was crucified on the sixth day and became the final sacrifice

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

But the bigger question is why would the jews contaminate the scriptures??

Took decades before the lord disclosed it to me.

During creation the Lord said it was good and very good meaning it was exactly the way he designed it. Another way of saying this is it was a time of no sin when he said it. So what represent no sin for seven days. Only the Feast of Unleavened Bread. But Adam who was made on the sixth day represents the original Passover.

When Adam and Eve covered themselves with fig leaves it just wasn't good enough. It took a blood sacrifice and why the Lord made clothing from animals.

Notice in Genesis 5 the dates are given for their births and death. But something is missing? No months or days!

Reason being the generational line from Adam to Christ were born and died same day----Pasover

The jews found out when Christ was born----Passover

Also why the Lord was crucified on the sixth day and became the final sacrifice

I do believe that the earth is young, but why does it have to be 6,000 years old? Are you trying to fit it into something? Just wondering!


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[Omegatime]

I do believe that the earth is young, but why does it have to be 6,000 years old? Are you trying to fit it into something? Just wondering!

This was the Lord's plan even before creation.

2 Peter 3:8
But do not ignore this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

If you study time in the Bible it doesn't take long to confirm.

2 But for you who fear my name the sun of righteousness shall rise, with healing in its wings. You shall go forth leaping like calves from the stall.

Notice the sun not son, reason being it has a time element. Sun was made on the 4th day meaning 4000 years

Lord was crucified on the last moments of year 3999 on the revolution of the year---Passover.

The true Sabbath is the 7th day when he reigns for a 1000 years

 

[JohnDB]

I do believe that the earth is young, but why does it have to be 6,000 years old? Are you trying to fit it into something? Just wondering!


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YES....yes he is.
But his counting of generations as in "the 4th generation" is according to Abraham's generation count not an arbitrary count which is 99-100 years old according to the birth of Isaac instead of Ishmael some 13-14 years previously.

 

[Grace911]

In my studies I have found the world is about 6000 years old. Anyone else studied time from Adam?????

6000 years could be the 120 Jubilee cycles at 50 years each. Math wise, it could be 5880 years which would be 120 Jubilee cycles at 49 years each.

Yes, studied time from Adam, and he was formed in the year 3836 BC and to this year 2024 we are now 5,860 years since that time.

The 7th millennium begins in 2045. Sometime before the end of the 6th millennium (2044) Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Point being - those 20 years will be shortened.

 

[Omegatime]

6000 years could be the 120 Jubilee cycles at 50 years each. Math wise, it could be 5880 years which would be 120 Jubilee cycles at 49 years each.

Yes, studied time from Adam, and he was formed in the year 3836 BC and to this year 2024 we are now 5,860 years since that time.

The 7th millennium begins in 2045. Sometime before the end of the 6th millennium (2044) Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Point being - those 20 years will be shortened.

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Ha--we gotta bet going here

im bold enough to say the Tribulation will begin on the Feast Trumpets 2025

Betting 2 Trump Cookies-lol

 

[Omegatime]

Something I posted before about 6000 years.------------------- Part 1


Feeding of the 4 & 5 Thousand--Miracle of Multiplication

Lord does nothing without foretelling his servants the future. Take Malachi 4:2 for example.
But for you who fear my name the sun of righteousness shall rise, with healing in its wings ( or rays ). You shall go forth leaping like calves from the stall (grave).
I see this scripture as being meant for the Hebrews and telling of a future resurrection. On that Passover weekend I also see a time element being spoken. Notice the word sun and not son. Not an error in translation; Lord was saying the sun being made on the fourth day, predicted his entry and coming into Jerusalem on that Passover after 4000 years, also the revolution of the year.

Parables and stories are there to alert us things which are shortly coming to pass and for me none is greater than the story of the feeding of the 4 and 5 thousand.

“Why do you discuss the fact that you have no bread? Do you not yet perceive or understand? Are your hearts hardened? 18 Having eyes do you not see, and having ears do you not hear? And do you not remember? 19 When I broke the five loaves for the five thousand, how many baskets full of broken pieces did you take up?” They said to him, “Twelve.” 20 “And the seven for the four thousand, how many baskets full of broken pieces did you take up?” And they said to him, “Seven.” 21 And he said to them, “Do you not yet understand?” Mark 8

What a question? Do you not understand? Well, first the baskets. From the Greek manuscripts we see a portent concering the baskets. The basket used to feed the 5000 was a kophino, and the basket used to feed the 4000 was a spuris. This holds true in all 4 gospels whenever the baskets are mentioned, as well in the book of Acts. The kophino basket used to feed the 5000 was jewish because when the people followed Jesus across Lake Galilie he was asked questions only a jew was asked, such as, " Our ancestors ate manna in the wilderness

As for the basket used to feed the 4000, Jesus had left the area of Tyre and Sidon in Lebanon and approached the area of Decapolis. Decapolis was a group of ten cities given to the Greeks for their assistance during the times of conquering the territory. When Apostle Paul was fleeing Damascus, he was let down over the wall in a spuris basket---A Gentile basket in a Gentile city. So we can easily say the kophino basket used to feed the 5000 was jewish and the spuris basket jused to feed the 4000 was Gentile. Strongs Concordance for kophino is #2894 and for spuris #4711.

 

[Omegatime]

Part 2--Feeding of 4 & 5 Thousand


Now to the feeding of the 4 & 5 thousand. If the Lord had wanted,He could have made it come out to the very crumb as to what was needed to feed the multitude. The miracle was the multiplication of food and we will feed them just as Jesus did! The jews were fed with 5 loaves and 2 fish, and the gentiles with 7 loaves and a few (2) fish.

Feeding of the 5000
5 loaves times 2 fish = 10
5000 divided by 10 = 500 ( Lord divided it among the 5000)
500 times 12 baskets left over = 6000 ( Blessings multiplied)
6000 years

For in so many days the world was made, in so many thousand years shall it be concluded. Irenaeus, taught by Polycarp a hearer of Apostle John

Attend, my children, to the meaning of this expression, He finished in six days. This implies that the Lord will finish all things in six thousand years, for a day is with Him a thousand years. And He Himself testifies, saying, Behold, today will be as a thousand years. Therefore, my children, in six days, that is, in six thousand years, all things will be finished. And He rested on the seventh day. This means: when His Son, coming [again], shall destroy the time of the wicked man, and judge the ungodly, and change the-sun, and the moon, and the stars, then shall He truly rest on the seventh day. Barnabas--named an apostle in Acts 14

Feeding of the 4000
7 loaves times 2 fish = 14 ( few fish )
4000 divided by 14 = 285.7143
Blessing left over are multiplied
7 baskets left over times 285.7143 =2000 ( From Pentecost to Pentecost )
2000 years

This is the number of years till his return. This time is called--The time of the gentiles, all are gentile christians in this story of the 4000..

 

[Bob-Carabbio]

In my studies I have found the world is about 6000 years old. Anyone else studied time from Adam?????

This is the YEC fantasy. Personally, I'm an OEC, and go with the "Gap Theory", which places an unknown span of TIME and any number of "Creations"/Spiritual Activities between Gen 1:1, and Gen 1:2.

 

[Inquisitor]

It does matter, because if creation did not happen in the six days that Scripture clearly says it does, then unbelievers are justified in rejecting the Bible as truth.

2 Peter 3:8
But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day
is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day.

The creation week was an extraordinary week.

Mankind was never intelligent enough and mankind is still not intelligent enough
to understand the creation week. God made it very simple for us to understand and
God revealed to us in a simple narration.

Even science is hitting the limitations of human thought in their attempt to understand
Quantum Theory. The scale of the universe is far beyond our comprehension and the
Cosmologists admit that readily.

I would not be telling anyone that creation happened 6000 years ago.

You are meant to be reading the scripture as allegory.

Here is a good example of allegory.

1 Corinthians 9:9
For it is written in the Law of Moses: “You shall not muzzle the ox while it is threshing.”
God is not concerned about oxen, is He?

How do you read the following verse?

Deuteronomy 25:4
You shall not muzzle the ox while it is threshing.

I bet you cannot answer the question.

 

[Cameron143]

2 Peter 3:8
But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day
is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day.

The creation week was an extraordinary week.

Mankind was never intelligent enough and mankind is still not intelligent enough
to understand the creation week. God made it very simple for us to understand and
God revealed to us in a simple narration.

Even science is hitting the limitations of human thought in their attempt to understand
Quantum Theory. The scale of the universe is far beyond our comprehension and the
Cosmologists admit that readily.

I would not be telling anyone that creation happened 6000 years ago.

You are meant to be reading the scripture as allegory.

Here is a good example of allegory.

1 Corinthians 9:9
For it is written in the Law of Moses: “You shall not muzzle the ox while it is threshing.”
God is not concerned about oxen, is He?

How do you read the following verse?

Deuteronomy 25:4
You shall not muzzle the ox while it is threshing.

I bet you cannot answer the question.

Because while it is working, the ox is too tired to talk.

 

[Dino246]

2 Peter 3:8
But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day
is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day.

It also says in Psalm 90:4, "A thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night."

Because the comparison is presented both ways in Scripture (each only once) and that a thousand years are also compared to a watch in the night (a distinctly different amount of time than a full day), we cannot conclude any particular implication from the comparison. Neither context overtly links the simile with the days of creation.

I would not be telling anyone that creation happened 6000 years ago.

You're welcome to your own conclusions and applications.

You are meant to be reading the scripture as allegory.

Really? Where in Scripture are we told that?

Jesus repeatedly asked the Pharisees, "Have you not read...." He meant the literal words, not some fantastical allegorical mystery to which they supposedly allude. He also meant that they were to find and apply the principles behind the laws.

Here is a good example of allegory.

1 Corinthians 9:9
For it is written in the Law of Moses: “You shall not muzzle the ox while it is threshing.”
God is not concerned about oxen, is He?

How do you read the following verse?

Deuteronomy 25:4
You shall not muzzle the ox while it is threshing.

I bet you cannot answer the question.

I bet you should not make asinine assertions about the intellectual capacity of others.

It means exactly what it says, and it also means (as explained by Paul) that those who share preach the gospel should make a living from doing so. The Holy Spirit showed Paul an expanded application of the verse, demonstrating that the Law was never meant merely to be followed word for word, but to be considered for the deeper principles to be applied to one's life. Jesus explained several of these principles in His sermon on the mount.

 

[NightTwister]

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Ha--we gotta bet going here

im bold enough to say the Tribulation will begin on the Feast Trumpets 2025

Betting 2 Trump Cookies-lol

Dates! I love dates!!

 

[JohnDB]

Dates! I love dates!!

I'm a Fig person myself....
Then there's peaches and pecans....
I got the fruit and nut farm going here.
Grapes MIGHT do something next year....we live in hope.

But to each their own.

 

[Inquisitor]

I'm a Fig person myself....
Then there's peaches and pecans....
I got the fruit and nut farm going here.
Grapes MIGHT do something next year....we live in hope.

But to each their own.

The ultimate berry is the blueberry.

Packed with antioxidants and anyone who eats blueberries everyday cannot die.