The hatred of Jews

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How long has this thread been going with the same people? Over and over again?

I wish both sides would just give this to the Lord. He will sort it out Himself and is already doing that.


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TabinRivCA

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TabinRivCA said: Questions for you: In the movie I posted above, do you recognize God's divine intervention in the many wars against Israel or are you blind?
lol, I take this as a less than genuine question.
It's genuine and I say that bc if you can't admit God's defending, overseeing and protecting current Israel after witnessing who's side He's on in the battle scenes, this Scripture comes to mind, 'Some Pharisees overheard him and said, “Does that mean you're calling us blind?” Jesus said, “If you were really blind, you would be blameless, but since you claim to see everything so well, you're accountable for every fault and failure.”
Bottom line, since God is outright still intervening on Israel's behalf, I'm with Him and thus w/Israel. You are bent on making Israeli's out to be murderers and fakes and that is practically the opposite of what is happening. An evil force wants to wipe out Israel (guess who) & they have every right to uphold their God-given and UN recognized land, the size of New Jersey. Considering this and that their neighbor won't even accept them as a nation they have to and will continue to protect themselves with God's backing. Oh and to your question, is any race free of sin so do we condemn everyone?
Zech 2:8-10
'After a period of glory, the LORD of Heaven’s Armies sent me against the nations who plundered you. For he said, “Anyone who harms you harms my most precious possession.
I will raise my fist to crush them, and their own slaves will plunder them.” Then you will know that the LORD of Heaven’s Armies has sent me.
The LORD says, “Shout and rejoice, O beautiful Jerusalem, for I am coming to live among you'.
 

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How long has this thread been going with the same people? Over and over again?

I wish both sides would just give this to the Lord. He will sort it out Himself and is already doing that.


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I can't. The spirit in me won't allow me to be silent.

Witnesses must call evil evil. Out of the mouths of two or more may every matter be established.

Ezekiel 33:6
But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

Every time there's a new scene of babies being burned alive in tents that were bombed outside a hospital (which just happened), or whenever there is a new scene of little children playing atop rubble in a marked "safe zone" just before they're exploded by a direct attack (which also just recently happened), I will return here and continue to condemn these evil people.
 

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QUOTE, Yahshua
'Every time there's a new scene of babies being burned alive in tents that were bombed outside a hospital (which just happened), or whenever there is a new scene of little children playing atop rubble in a marked "safe zone" just before they're exploded by a direct attack (which also just recently happened), I will return here and continue to condemn these evil people'.

Sounds like Oct 7, 2023 where terrorists were hyped up on drugs slaughtering people in neighborhoods
 

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Wow, I am familiar with the teachings of many current preachers such as Pastor Greg Laurie and the entire Trinity Broadcasting Network, and they are all for Israel's defense in protecting her right as declared in 1948. A quote 'The formation of Israel was primarily driven by the Zionist movement, international diplomacy, and geopolitical circumstances of the time' and another 'Declaration of Independence: On May 14, 1948, David Ben-Gurion proclaimed the establishment of the State of Israel, leading to the first Arab-Israeli war as neighboring countries opposed the creation of Israel'. Do you mean Mr Ben-Gurion was an Illuminati or the UN?
According to your explanation, is God then for present day Israel or against? Also, do people who believe your account side with Israel's enemies? Honestly, I've never heard of this and can't find any source that does. Can you provide some, ty.
The Zionist movement is an 'arm' of the Illuminati. As I said before, the modern "state" of Israel was brought into existence by the Illuminati using biblical prophecy to justify the action - the ultimate end purpose of which is to "tear the world apart" so that the New World Order may be brought in as a solution for world peace.

Most people have never heard of this - because, the evil powers-that-be in the world do not want people to know the truth about their manipulation of everything in the world through deception.

Whether you want to believe it or not - the majority of everything you "believe" (because you were taught to believe whatever you are told by any 'authority') regarding "world events" is based on deception - almost none of it is really as it seems. The average person has no imaginable idea just how much deception they have been living under/with all of their life. The rabbit hole goes very deep...

The only people who know something about it are those who have "done the research" to obtain knowledge and understanding about the world as it really is.

Try to understand that every person who is even remotely connected with anything that the Illuminati is in control of is not necessarily "a card-carrying member of the Illuminati" - only, the "invisible hand" of the Illuminati works continually to influence people - to "guide" them to do what they want them to do.

People like Greg Laurie may simply be influenced and manipulated without realizing what is really happening.

After all, "religious people" (especially Christians) are one of their favorite groups to influence and manipulate.

In 1948, a "nation of Israel" was indeed established - I do not believe that is in dispute here in the slightest.

To say that it is not "true Israel" from a biblical perspective is not saying that it is not a [real] nation today.

It is only saying that modern Israel is not "biblical Israel" - established by God according to His prophecy.

Instead, it was "established" by evil men with an agenda to bring about world domination.

The "debate" (if you want to call it that) in this thread is not about whether any "real Jews":

~ live in Israel today. Of course, they do.

~ were killed during the holocaust. Of course, there were.

Rather, it is about:

~ how the modern "state" of Israel came about

~ the identity of those who are in control of it

(This is the way I see it, anyway.)
 

TabinRivCA

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The Zionist movement is an 'arm' of the Illuminati. As I said before, the modern "state" of Israel was brought into existence by the Illuminati using biblical prophecy to justify the action - the ultimate end purpose of which is to "tear the world apart" so that the New World Order may be brought in as a solution for world peace.

Most people have never heard of this - because, the evil powers-that-be in the world do not want people to know the truth about their manipulation of everything in the world through deception.

Whether you want to believe it or not - the majority of everything you "believe" (because you were taught to believe whatever you are told by any 'authority') regarding "world events" is based on deception - almost none of it is really as it seems. The average person has no imaginable idea just how much deception they have been living under/with all of their life. The rabbit hole goes very deep...

The only people who know something about it are those who have "done the research" to obtain knowledge and understanding about the world as it really is.

Try to understand that every person who is even remotely connected with anything that the Illuminati is in control of is not necessarily "a card-carrying member of the Illuminati" - only, the "invisible hand" of the Illuminati works continually to influence people - to "guide" them to do what they want them to do.

People like Greg Laurie may simply be influenced and manipulated without realizing what is really happening.

After all, "religious people" (especially Christians) are one of their favorite groups to influence and manipulate.

In 1948, a "nation of Israel" was indeed established - I do not believe that is in dispute here in the slightest.

To say that it is not "true Israel" from a biblical perspective is not saying that it is not a [real] nation today.

It is only saying that modern Israel is not "biblical Israel" - established by God according to His prophecy.

Instead, it was "established" by evil men with an agenda to bring about world domination.

The "debate" (if you want to call it that) in this thread is not about whether any "real Jews":

~ live in Israel today. Of course, they do.

~ were killed during the holocaust. Of course, there were.

Rather, it is about:

~ how the modern "state" of Israel came about

~ the identity of those who are in control of it

(This is the way I see it, anyway.)
Ok then what I don't understand is why God performed divine intervention in the wars on Israel if it's not the real Israel and run by evil men? Also, I'm very aware of hidden agendas all over the world and it prompts me to keep growing my faith and serving the Lord. Thx for your insight though!
 

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Hitler seemed to think they were Jew enough to try and wipe them out as a people. Too bad he wasn't as smart as you, 6 million people would be alive today.



Satanic Bible?! I thought there was only one of those. lol Yeah, I've done research, for many years. And everlasting and unconditional still mean the same thing. The words have not changed.



Of course Christ died for our sins, but the Jews handed him over to the Romans and said let his blood be on our hands. Just like the fake Jews have been doing for centuries. They start wars and have your children fight them.
The Jews are guilty, or the fake Jews. Make up your mind. God loves the Jews and He will keep the promises He made to His chosen people. Romans 11 says so.



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Oh your spirit is so loving and Christlike! Just gets you right there... I guess you'd be like the young girl in Shindler's List screaming "Goodbye Jews!!!" as they were marched out of ghettos and onto trains. Hard not to call someone on their hate when it's so bleedin obvious.[/QUOTE]

41000 plus dead in Gaza. Most of those women and children. Many of them Christians. But you fully support this mass murder. Because Gods chosen people and all that nonsense. You want to talk about hatred? You're so blinded by your hatred of the enemies of so called Israel that you cheer on genocide. Real people are dying. How many have to die before you pull your head out of Bibi's butthole? 70 million plus dead Christians, 40,000 churches burned, and that's just in Russia during the Jewish led Holodomor. The victims of Jewish led communism number over 250 million. Then there's the 2 million dead Iraqis. And if they have their way, there will be a few more billion dead very soon (can't forget about Jewish led pharma). And eventually the white Christian, and every other kind of Christian will be dead or enslaved by these same lovely Jews. Zionist "Christians" have been financing and facilitating there own demise, not to mention the building of the temple where Satan will make his throne. Like this a completely sane and rational course of action. And all because you allowed a man named John Darby and his disciples to sell you a bill of goods, and you couldn't be bothered or have the good sense to do a meager 15 minutes of actual research. You've been living in this paradigm so long now, you hate anyone who challenges your belief system. There may be no hope for you. Please tell me you didn't fall for the Jew Juice too. God have mercy.
 

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QUOTE, Yahshua
'Every time there's a new scene of babies being burned alive in tents that were bombed outside a hospital (which just happened), or whenever there is a new scene of little children playing atop rubble in a marked "safe zone" just before they're exploded by a direct attack (which also just recently happened), I will return here and continue to condemn these evil people'.

Sounds like Oct 7, 2023 where terrorists were hyped up on drugs slaughtering people in neighborhoods
October 7th was a false flag. If you believe differently I can only feel sorry for you. That would mean you are a tool with zero discernment or critical thinking skills. Please tell me you don't believe everything that comes out of your TV set.
 

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October 7th was a false flag. If you believe differently I can only feel sorry for you. That would mean you are a tool with zero discernment or critical thinking skills. Please tell me you don't believe everything that comes out of your TV set.
' Please tell me you don't believe everything that comes out of your TV set' lol, no worries I don't. However, when something horrific is going on and someone is filming it live, it's impossible to say it didn't happen. Who has zero discernment here and who's the tool, relates to who one's going to side with bc of their allegiance to love or hatred, Biblical history or falsities.
 

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But you fully support this mass murder.
What a slanderous statement. What exactly is someone supposed to do? When the war is over we can do a thorough investigation. We will discover lies on both sides. We will discover war crimes if committed, and then we can prosecute. But at the moment we are all in the fog of war. I have no first hand knowledge of what is going on and neither do you. All you know is what someone else is telling you and they all have an agenda. One person says they bombed a school, another says that a military base was housed underneath the school in tunnels. You have no absolute proof as to what happened. But after the war we can do a thorough investigation and even if many are dead they will all appear before the Lord to answer for the things they have done in their bodies.

Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

You have no guarantee you are not being used like a useful idiot and yet you condemn others. Wow, I would hate to be you when you have to stand before the Lord.

1 Timothy 5:22 Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep thyself pure.

If it turns out that Hezbollah and Hamas are the ones committing sin, then you have laid hands on them and are now partaker of their sins.

23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.

Just because someone drinks a little wine does not make them a drunkard.

24 Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after.

We have documented very clear sins on both sides of this conflict for the last 70+ years.

25 Likewise also the good works of some are manifest beforehand; and they that are otherwise cannot be hid.

We have also seen good works on both sides. Everything will come to light and everyone will have to appear before the Lord to be judged.

2 Timothy 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
 
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How long has this thread been going with the same people? Over and over again?

I wish both sides would just give this to the Lord. He will sort it out Himself and is already doing that.


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You know how those opposed to Christ often say, as a means to justify their unbelief "Why didn't the Christians in Germany during World War II speak out against Hitler?" Here we have Christians speaking out against another Nazi state and another Hitler, and sadly, other Christians attempting to use the scripture to defend this godless state and the genocidal actions of its perverse tyrants.

I think its important to get on the historical record that those who follow the commandments of Jesus are opposed to and condemn the war-crimes being done by the Zionist regime in Israel, in the name of a god that is most certainly not our God, and that if these were His Chosen people, they would believe on His name and not be participants in such horrific crimes.
 

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You know how those opposed to Christ often say, as a means to justify their unbelief "Why didn't the Christians in Germany during World War II speak out against Hitler?" Here we have Christians speaking out against another Nazi state and another Hitler, and sadly, other Christians attempting to use the scripture to defend this godless state and the genocidal actions of its perverse tyrants.

I think its important to get on the historical record that those who follow the commandments of Jesus are opposed to and condemn the war-crimes being done by the Zionist regime in Israel, in the name of a god that is most certainly not our God, and that if these were His Chosen people, they would believe on His name and not be participants in such horrific crimes.
Sadly those who are speaking out against Israel are not using scripture while claiming that Jesus is their Lord. Sure seems like it is their opinions they follow and not the word of the Lord Jesus Christ.
 
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Sadly those who are speaking out against Israel are not using scripture while claiming that Jesus is their Lord. Sure seems like it is their opinions they follow and not the word of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Israel is committing war crimes comparable (and arguably worse) to those committed by Nazi Germany in World War II. The only way it is able to commit these war crimes is through its being funded and supported by the US (and other Western nations). The only justification for the propping up of this criminal and blood-thirsty state is that to blindly and unconditionally support the modern state of Israel is God's will on Earth as this is somehow required for the fulfillment of biblical prophecy (or sometimes, not supporting the criminal state will result in a curse for the US, and the false claim that this is stated in the bible). This last item is the problem.

Take away the Christian backing for the criminal state, it's funding from the West would dissolve, its illegal exploits would collapse, and the criminals in power would face justice for their crimes. The longer Christians support this evil, the more condemnation for Christians by those who come afterward that they could not see they were speaking in favour of Satan's work.
 

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Israel is committing war crimes comparable (and arguably worse) to those committed by Nazi Germany in World War II.
So bring your evidence to the UN, they have a court to deal with war crimes.

The only way it is able to commit these war crimes is through its being funded and supported by the US (and other Western nations).
That would make them guilty of war crimes as well, bring your evidence to the UN.

The only justification for the propping up of this criminal and blood-thirsty state is that to blindly and unconditionally support the modern state of Israel is God's will on Earth as this is somehow required for the fulfillment of biblical prophecy (or sometimes, not supporting the criminal state will result in a curse for the US, and the false claim that this is stated in the bible). This last item is the problem.
Are you serious? You think the money and guns and arms that are sent to assist Israel's national defense are donated by churches and Christians? Do you seriously think world leaders sit in back rooms making these deals because "it will fulfill Biblical prophesy". When you say things like this you look like a buffoon. The US supports Israel because they are the petro dollar and they would never be the petro dollar if they didn't have a solid foothold in the middle east. All the money and guns as support is simply because of that and is certainly not coming from genuine believers.

Take away the Christian backing for the criminal state, it's funding from the West would dissolve, its illegal exploits would collapse, and the criminals in power would face justice for their crimes. The longer Christians support this evil, the more condemnation for Christians by those who come afterward that they could not see they were speaking in favour of Satan's work.
This is as naive and idiotic as it comes. The entire world lies in the evil one, not in the hands of Christians. We are ambassadors from the kingdom of the heavens to this kingdom of darkness ruled by the prince of the power of the air. If Christians were ruling the US we would not have aborted 60 million babies and we would not be pushing for putting boys into the girls bathroom or castrating boys and neutering girls.
 

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October 7th was a false flag. If you believe differently I can only feel sorry for you. That would mean you are a tool with zero discernment or critical thinking skills. Please tell me you don't believe everything that comes out of your TV set.
So you believe your TV that "Palestinians" are being murdered, but Oct 7 th didn't happen? I have some ocean front property I wanna sell ya. rofl
 
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Are you serious? You think the money and guns and arms that are sent to assist Israel's national defense are donated by churches and Christians? Do you seriously think world leaders sit in back rooms making these deals because "it will fulfill Biblical prophesy". When you say things like this you look like a buffoon. The US supports Israel because they are the petro dollar and they would never be the petro dollar if they didn't have a solid foothold in the middle east. All the money and guns as support is simply because of that and is certainly not coming from genuine believers.

This is as naive and idiotic as it comes. The entire world lies in the evil one, not in the hands of Christians. We are ambassadors from the kingdom of the heavens to this kingdom of darkness ruled by the prince of the power of the air. If Christians were ruling the US we would not have aborted 60 million babies and we would not be pushing for putting boys into the girls bathroom or castrating boys and neutering girls.
If the above were all true, it would not be called hatred (as in the title of this thread) for talking about the crimes of Israel, for wanting its dual citizens and spies out of the governments of the West, and for holding the criminal state to the same level of account as other criminal states (e.g. with embargoes and sanctions) when war crimes are committed against civilians.
 

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Sadly those who are speaking out against Israel are not using scripture while claiming that Jesus is their Lord. Sure seems like it is their opinions they follow and not the word of the Lord Jesus Christ.
**Looks at dozens of posts published with a multitude of passages referenced :unsure:**
 

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If the above were all true, it would not be called hatred (as in the title of this thread) for talking about the crimes of Israel, for wanting its dual citizens and spies out of the governments of the West, and for holding the criminal state to the same level of account as other criminal states (e.g. with embargoes and sanctions) when war crimes are committed against civilians.
Talking? This talking is vain jangling. If you were serious you would gather your evidence and take it to the UN. All you are doing here is beating the air.
 
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I agree, what is the point of the whole replacement theology. They have to go through incredible gymnastics to say that an everlasting covenant is not an everlasting covenant. But why? What is the point? It is simply so they can curse Israel and teach others to do so as well.

Matthew 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
This is nonsense. The covenant of circumcision was described as an everlasting covenant, but Paul states in Galatians that circumcision is not required in the New Testament - all is fulfilled in Christ. Paul had no desire to curse Israel or to teach others to do so.

Talking? This talking is vain jangling. If you were serious you would gather your evidence and take it to the UN. All you are doing here is beating the air.
Then why did you respond?
 

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**Looks at dozens of posts published with a multitude of passages referenced :unsure:**
Thank you, neither of those two verses would justify all this vain talk. Jesus will do it, pray that He do it.